Mormon voters a key in Nevada — they're for Romney

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  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:35 p.m.

    @John Pack Lambert
    "Personally I support Rick Santorum, because he is overall the candidate who I most agree with on vital social issues and who I most can bring myself to support. "

    I heavily disagree with Santorum on pretty much everything since I'm a liberal and he's the most solidly conservative of the four (no Paul fans... he's not a conservative, he's a libertarian) but I feel bad for him. He's being done in by the presence of big money (Romney backing superpacs spent 14 million in florida) and the base's demand for a jerk (at least I think that's what fuels Gingrich's support...).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:33 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar
    "Do you realize that 97% of blacks voted for Obama? What's the difference between that and this?"

    Because over 90% voted for Kerry too showing that it was more a matter of political party rather than his race. Here's a better comparison. In the heavily LDS Utah primary Romney got 89% of the vote despite running against 3 opponents (McCain Huckabee Paul) and not even being the eventual nominee. Obama got 77% of the vote in heavily black Washington D.C. against one opponent Clinton.

  • awsomeron1 Oahu, HI
    Feb. 3, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    The Church is very strong in Nevada and tend to lean toward the right wing of the Repub Party.

    The Union is also strong in Nevada and tends to lean towards the Dem Party.

    Many Mormons belong to both.

    I have never seen a Cascus as a Free Election, by and of the people, Most of a gathering of a few to decide for the many. In reality less then that but we don't want the post rejected.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    Pagan - and the author of the article - are missing the point. The only reason that the Mormon religion is important in this race is because of all the misinformed or intolerant people who will not vote for any Mormon. I (and those I know in my neighborhood) do not support someone merely on the basis of religion. I support Romney because of his leadership, values, and experience. He LIVES his "family values." Oh - and one of the main reasons Utahns support Romney is that we saw him in action, saving the 2002 SLC Winter Olympics.

    Feb. 3, 2012 8:26 a.m.

    Like Jesus, I believe that which belongs to Caesar belongs to Caesar, and that of god to god. We should never let the beliefs of one group establish the laws. The Sunday ban of beer and liquor sales in Utah is completely unconstitutional. The most important issues we have as a country are federal spending and governments role in our economy, and our military involvement around the world. Gay marriage, drug use, and any other social issue should be left to the freedom of each individual. The only social issue I think we should outlaw is abortion because I view it as murder. I don't need Mitt, Rick, or Newt telling me whom I can marry, when I can drink, or how many wives I can have. Let me decide, and as long as my decisions do not compromise the freedoms of anyone else then why does it matter to anyone what I do. It's pathetic that certain groups should try to impose their beliefs of everyone else.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:25 a.m.

    What qualifications should a candidate have? Should he honor his marriage vows? Should he be honest in his business dealings? Should he have experience in business, particularly when the economy is THE problem? Should he have a history of working well with people of all faiths, of all political parties, of all walks of life? Should he respect the Constitution and be willing to limit his authority, as President, to those duties given to him by the people?

    Which candidate most closely has those qualifications? My vote is for Mitt Romney.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 6:40 a.m.

    "Mormons support Romney"

    Big surprise there.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Feb. 2, 2012 9:58 p.m.

    Four 3-plus years we've heard the term "kool-aid." Well, the Romney "kool-aid" seems to be flowing steady. Wonder how long it will last, especially when/if he becomes president.

  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 9:08 p.m.

    LDS who read their scriptures, know that they are to befriend the law of the land which is constituional as it supports the principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges, belonging to ALL mankind.

    Astute and scholarly mormons can then use their own discernment in choosing a candidate who has a record of supporting those written guarantees of rights for individuals as found in the US Constitution.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 2, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    Harry Reid (Mormon) vs Someone (not Mormon) with a more conservative view? I will give you a hint not Not Bro Reid.

    Romney vs Gingrich? Throw the Mormon thing out and to me it is not a very hard decision. Based on Character and direction. Does that mean that Gingrich does not have some ideas I like? No, But more with Romney. I just can not look up to someone like Gingrich.

    I do not vote by religion or party but the odds of someone having the same basic ideas and understanding of what should be done is extremly high. But many Christian leaders fit this same mold. I do cross a few lines. But again not Bro Reid.

    As for Pagan - Nothing needs to be said. I just now look to the next post. I Think Forest Gump would have something to fun to say about him.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Feb. 2, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    I would assume that any Mormon who votes for Mitt Romney believs that this is no reason to disqualify him from office.

    I would go so far as to challenge the theory taht everyone who believs that our current president is a Muslim believs that disqualifies him from office. In the last election I voted for a county executive who I knew was Arabic but did not know his religion. For all I knew he was a Muslim, but I still voted for him because I agreed with his positions.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Feb. 2, 2012 8:31 p.m.

    Personally I support Rick Santorum, because he is overall the candidate who I most agree with on vital social issues and who I most can bring myself to support. Romney has in the past donated to causes that I cannot support, and Gingrich is unethical. Paul holds many positions that I do not agree with, especially his insistence on "states rights", and he is too extreme and too unwilling to compromise. Paul proposes bills that never go anywhere, Santorum was the floor manager in the senate for vital pro-life legislation.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 2, 2012 7:36 p.m.

    L can assure you that very few LDS voters supported Harry in his senate re-election. I have friends and family from Nevada and none of their friends and associates voted for Mr Reid. Some folks thing LDS vote for Mitt based solely on his LDS faith. WRONG. Mitt quite clearly is the most qualified AND the most likely to defeat BO.

  • realsoothsayer SANDY, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 6:23 p.m.

    You know why Newt won in South Carolina? Because those folks essentially said, "We'd rather support Brother Newt from over here in Georgia, despite is indiscretions, than support some Yankee Mormon." That's exactly what happened. Don't kid yourselves into thinking it was anything else. What's astounding is that even though the LDS Church has been on this continent for nearly 182 years now, many of these people still call it a non-Christian religion. Sometimes you can tell a lot about people and their level of awareness by the things they say and do.

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Feb. 2, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    It's refreshing to see that somewhere it has been pointed out that the LDS Church does not instruct its members for whom they should vote; it simply encourages its members to study the issues and choose the candidate or candidates they feel are best according to their own judgment. I do wish this were more prevalent. I have posted the information more than once on my Facebook news feed myself, for the benefit of any who may not know. I get the feeling that some in the Church feel they must not only vote Republican, since a majority, and so many leaders especially, do, but that, when a member of the LDS Church runs for office, they must choose not only that candidate but the one who seems most "annointed". In this case, we know who that was. I would like to see LDS candidates treated like those from any--or no--religion. When it comes to government,since we are choosing a leader for people dissimilar as well as similar to ourselves, some realistic thought is called for, wouldn't you agree?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 5:56 p.m.


    Do you realize that 97% of blacks voted for Obama? What's the difference between that and this?

    Well, voting for someone with the same values as you is a very common thing. Voting for someone because of the color of their skin, that's racist!

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 5:33 p.m.

    'Being Baptist myself, I do not like Pagan's.' - Veracity | 4:52 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    Not that I practice Paganism myself, but if I did...?

    I would hope then, to be a better example, of tolerance.

    And that other Baptists', provide a better example we can all follow than:

    'The Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an Independent Baptist church known for its extreme stance against homosexuality and its protest activities, which include picketing funerals of American servicemen and desecrating the American flag.'
    - Cursory Wikipedia search

    Holding up signs that proclaim:

    'God hates....'

    That's not God's love.

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    Feb. 2, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    Remember the rule, anybody but Obama.

  • 6'8 Lehi, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    I thought that was an extremely well researched and well written article. If the author isn't LDS, she really did her research and presented that research in a very objective manner, in my opinion!

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 4:52 p.m.

    Being Baptist myself, I do not like Pagan's.

  • barbara Carlsbad, CA
    Feb. 2, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    Go Mitt! Go Ann! The more I see of Ann, the better I like her. What a great First Lady she would make.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 4:09 p.m.

    'I apologize for the harshness of my first post and hope this clears up any confusion.' - David King | 3:25 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    It is an easy thing to get confused.

    But I do TRY, not to over generalize. Like with any other group, there are good and bad.

    The point I try to make, is the double standard to claim you should NOT vote against someone because of their religion, whatever it is...

    and then vote FOR someone, because of their religion:

    'I don't see any other possible result than Romney winning big in Nevada. There might be some anti-Mormons out there but the LDS presence is huge...' - Howard Beal | 3:22 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    Supported, by this very aritlce.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 3:48 p.m.

    Mormons blindly supporting Romney simply because he is Mormon,
    are as ignorantly biased and bigoted as African-Americans voting for Obama simply because he's black.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 3:25 p.m.

    Pagan | 2:07 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    I guess what we have here is a misunderstanding. Your original post mentions three groups:
    (1)Mormons who vote for Mitt Romney
    (2)those who believe Mitt Romney's religion should not disqualify him for office
    (3)those who believe (mistakenly) that Obama is a Muslim

    Your post (in my point of view, which obviously could be wrong), does not differentiate between these groups, sliding from one to the next as if they were all composed of exactly the same people. That is why I consider it a broad generalization. Yes, there are some Mormons who are hypocritical when it comes to religion and politics. But does everyone in the first group you mentioned belong to the second group, and is there evidence that those who belong in the second group are also part of the third?

    I apologize for the harshness of my first post and hope this clears up any confusion.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    I don't see any other possible result than Romney winning big in Nevada. There might be some anti-Mormons out there but the LDS presence is huge and the business interests of the state are also huge. Also, Newt did a lot of business with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and I can't see that helping him when about every other house in Vegas is in foreclosure...

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:57 p.m.

    Mormons understand Romney because they've been in similar church callings and understand what it takes. So, they relate.

    If Newt, Paul and RS wish to court the Mormon vote, it is there for the taking. Just repudiate the Evangelicals in South Carolina who trash Mormons. Call them out as bigots and narrow minded people. That what religion you are should have NO PLACE in American politics but rather the content of the character the religion helps to produce. Argue about that, but demand Evangelicals wise up and start treating people as Christians ought to treat everyone.

    If they'll do that Mormons will gladly look at them with fond admiration, examine what Newt, Paul and Santorum stand for. And they're all better than Obama.

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    I like Mormons and Mitt Romney.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    By the way, did anyone else notice the picture associated with this article? The one in the warehouse. Isn't there where they put the crate with the Lost Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:25 p.m.

    As a Mormon, I couldn't care less about a candidate's religion. Romney is the most qualified for the office, Mormon or not.

  • Grundle West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:18 p.m.

    "Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...

    were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim..."


  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    'Will you please show me a poll that shows Mormon voters who support Romney were the ones who foolishly believed that Obama is a Muslim? I doubt such a poll even exists.' - David King | 1:43 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    2 points:

    1) How can I find the poll that you, yourself acknowledge does not exist.

    2) I didn't actually SAY that Mormons were the ones who thought Obama was Mulsim.

    Again, the quote was:

    'Those very same PERSONS who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President', were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim...' - Pagan | 12:55 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012

    I DID say Mormons were going to vote for a Mormon Presidental canidate, which the title supports.

    But not WHO, thought Obama was Muslim.

    David King | 1:43 p.m.,

    You injected the claim of, Mormonism into this statement.

    While claiming I was being to broad with my generalizations.

  • opinion 47 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 2:04 p.m.

    If Mitt Romney wins in Nevada, it won't be because of the Mormons there, it will be because he is the very best candidate for President. New Hampshire and Florida voted for Mitt, and it had nothing to do with the Mormon population.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    The problem (ok, one of the problems) with Mormons in Nevada is that they really don't know what they want. The vote for Harry Reid, simply because he IS a Mormon. When I have asked members of the LDS church in Las Vegas if they would have voted for Ted Kennedy, they say no--he is far too liberal for them. When I tell them that Ted and Harry had the same voting record, they really don't know what to say.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:55 p.m.

    Romney has certainly landed in the right place. Good for him! He's right back in the home of the big spenders!

  • floridadan Palm Bay, Fl
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    From Pagan's message I guess that he goes to church 2 times a year if needed or not or if it gets him votes.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:43 p.m.

    "Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...

    were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim..."

    What evidence backs up this claim? Once again you paint an entire group with a broad generalization, condemning an entire group for the actions of a few individuals. Will you please show me a poll that shows Mormon voters who support Romney were the ones who foolishly believed that Obama is a Muslim? I doubt such a poll even exists. Or does one individual, Donald Trump, represent all supporters of Mitt Romney now? You're good at partisan politics and talking points, but I would like to see you demonstrate some consistency on principles, instead of always resorting to, "well, the Republicans are worse."

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    "church voters who are taught to oppose abortion and gay marriage."

    This quote from the article is not true at all. Members are taught the value of life and that it is sacred. They are taught marriage is also a sacred ceremony instituted by God Himself (see the Garden of Eden). Understanding those teaching leads to opposing abortions of convenience and same gender marriage.

    No religion has a base of it's members who question, study, and teach the scriptures more than the LDS faith. When Mormons oppose abortion, they are thinking about literal children of God coming to earth. When discussing marriage they are thinking of a family unit as the foundation of a happy life and being ordained of God as the only proper and noble way to bring God's children to earth.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 1:08 p.m.

    I have to admit as a mormon voter seeing a mormon on the ballot is a huge draw for me, if only for the fact that it makes so many people who are religiously intollerant so darn uncomfortable. :)

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    'Mormon voters a key in Nevada they're for Romney' - title

    So, Mormon voters...

    will vote for a Mormon Presidental canidate, Mitt Romney.

    But it's 'not' about, religion.

    This claim is disproven as, less than one year ago:

    **'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11

    Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...

    were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim...

    when it wasn't even, true.

    **'Obamas to attend church for Easter Sunday' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 04/11/09

    **'Obama, family attend Christmas church services By Julie Pace AP Pulibshed by DSNews 12/25/11