Utah Jazz: Jimmer Fredette has heroic opportunity, but Jazz win

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 1:38 p.m.

    Air ball. The Jimmer geeks are goofy.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    @ plyxply

    Jimmer over Kanter? Please. Shooters come a dime a dozen. Kanter is a rebound machine. Plase don't forget he is 19. He is a huge part of our 2nd unit success. Jimmer is not a franchise changer. A good player, but Kanter has all the right ingredients to be a real difference maker. Every team needs good rebounding and defense in the paint. The young fella will get better, again he is 19.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    Jimmer or Enes? Seems now like the Jazz blew that pick, we need someone who can shoot the 3 consistently and Jimmer could've helped the Jazz.
    BYU fans please stop your whining about the boos Jimmer heard, it's not very becoming and it gets old. Jimmer will hear boos and cheers every time he's in town, get over it and stop getting your feelings hurt so easily. You should just be happy about your awesome football and basketball schedules and stop taking everything so personally.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 11:35 a.m.


    Jimmer's stats are terrible. Ummm he has hit 15 of his last 25 3s. He is at 38% now. You might want to do some research before you post.

  • Spiff Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 11:29 a.m.

    Talk about missing a call "ksampow", I have yet to see anyone comment on the missed call of Jimmer pushing-off on that last play. Obvious push off, just watch the replay.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 8:50 a.m.

    @ gdog3finally

    I will preface this by saying I live in Provo, I am a casual BYU fan. I never got into the Jimmer Mania. Although basketball is my fav sport, I like BYU football more than BYU basketball.

    That said, Jimmer will last in this league. When he gets it going he can score, and there is a place in the league for guys like that. Steve Kerr on the Bulls could not have guarded my grandmother, but played a long career. He could shoot though. Jimmer can shoot, and he is much more athletic than Kerr ever hoped to be. Jimmer is a rookie on a dysfunctional team. I don't think Jimmer will be an all-star level player, but a good solid player.

    Now moving on, I am glad Jimmer did not make the last shot or have a good shooting game cause he was the opponent Saturday and I care a heck of a lot more about the Jazz than BYU basketball.

    By the way Jimmer got away with a pushoff, and the guy who set the screen got away with a moving screen. That is the only reason Jimmer got free for that shot.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Jan. 30, 2012 8:42 a.m.

    Jimmer didn't complain because of his good sportsmanship. Replays show that his wrist was held as he shot. (Of course, officials can only call what they see, and they missed that call.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Jan. 30, 2012 8:03 a.m.

    USALover "Kanter was a bad pick" Are you kidding! How old are you? The Jazz have tried drafting shooters that can't play defense in the past, (Morris Almond) was their last. He could shoot it from anywhere, scored about forty a night in the D league. Gave up about fifty on the defensive end. Did you see them pulling Jimmer on the defensive side of the possessions down the stretch. They did that because he is way to small to play the two in the NBA. And he is not a prolific point guard yet! Everyone was posting him up. Kanter is a monster, and he will be a star in the NBA. You can't teach size in the NBA!

    And people Boo apposing teams! Apposing players, they always have! Go grab your little cougar cup and popcorn and get the NBA pass so you can watch Jimmer develop.

  • Munk Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    I'll take the win. As for Jimmer; he has a lot of professional growing to do but he is a good kid. I think most people are too harsh are too fanatical. I personally think he has the right tools and given a few more NBA years with a good coach we will see an awesome player.

    As for the Jazz, things may be sloppy but I see a team that is playing hard and a heck of a lot better than a lot of teams this year in the NBA.

  • Aggie lover LOGAN, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 9:09 p.m.

    I am one of the biggest Aggie fans and Jazz fans and Jimmer fans. I don't know why one Cougar fan assumed the Aggie fans were there booing. I was at the game and predict Jimmer loved the reception he received. He was cheered when he was introduced. He was cheered every time he made a shot. The cheers way outdid the boos. When he got the ball, they weren't all boos, many were shoot. Jimmer felt the love from Salt Lake and all of Utah last night. He is gonna be just fine and someday he will look great in a Jazz uniform.

  • Monk Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 9:07 p.m.

    Jimmer has played worse. Last night, he was so-so at best. He's gone 0 for all and 1-8 this season already. 5-13 and an airball when it counts is not his worst game. No rookie is going to get a contestable call on the road to win the game from 25+ ft away.
    The real story is not Jimmer though, Millsap, Big Al, Kanter, and Favors need to produce bigger numbers as a unit in the points and rebounds categories.

  • Tyler Holladay, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:25 p.m.


    Kanter is FAR from a wasted draft pick. Rebounding, defense, toughness, and size win in the NBA. Kanter brings all of those. He may not be a refined player yet, but he plays hard, is very active on the boards, moves relatively well, and has solid moves (even if the game is a bit fast for him right now).

    He will play better for the Jazz more than Jimmer ever would have.

  • Tyler Holladay, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:20 p.m.

    Considering many diehard Jazz fans have had to listen to Jimmer fans resign their allegiance to follow an overhyped player, it is understandable that many of would be sick of him. It is the same thing that happens with Tim Tebow. People become tired with the fans and take it out on the player. When we hear cheers from hometown fans cheer on the opposing player, boos will rain down. Deal with it BYU fans.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:19 p.m.

    Jimmer won't last long in the league. His stats are awful. He turns the ball over, gets virtually no assists, can't play defense, and has a bad field goal percentage to boot.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    And yet again the Jimmer haters proved one fact.

    Max was right!

  • wyoming cougar Green River, WY
    Jan. 29, 2012 7:04 p.m.

    I don't think I've ever been more disgusted with u and agggie fans and other BYU haters than I was last night- to constantly boo a player on another NBA team every time he touches the ball because he torched your teams in college and you can't stand the team he played for is about as classless as it gets.

    Here's an NBA rookie playing his first NBA game in SLC who has no history with the Jazz and yet you're going to treat him like a deek fisher or kobe (i guess that's actually a sign of respect, maybe). I'm pretty sure nothing like this ever happened when andre miller, keith van horn, tom chambers or the other ute players that came to slc in the nba were ever treated like this (sorry, couldn't think of any aggies off the top of my head).

    Be Jazz fans, not BYU haters in the professional ranks- how embarassing last night. Way to show your true class. I'm a big Jazz fan, but almost found myself wishing Jimmer would've made the last shot just to quiet so many of you.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    I am a Jazz fan first and a Jimmer fan second in the NBA. But it is pretty obvious that Jimmer was fouled on that last shot, and that if he had not been fouled it likely would not have been an air ball. Even though it was on the follow through, it still was a foul and still threw his shot off. With that said, I am glad that he missed and the Jazz won. Go Jazz, and Go Jimmer when he is not playing the Jazz

  • utahsportfanatic PRICE, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 4:30 p.m.

    Let me start by saying I'm not a Jimmer-Hater. The kid did a lot for BYU and I respect that. I also hope that he succeeds and has a great career.

    That being said, I was a bit irked by BYU fans last night in the waning minutes of a close game chanting to get a visiting team's player into the game instead of cheering for the home team to win. I don't know about anybody else, but it just didn't sit right with me. There are certain times when that is acceptable, and none of those were in play last night. And YES, I do realize he was being booed just as much as he was being cheered, so please don't get bent out of shape by this paragraph!

    As for those fans that are saying or will say that we should have drafted Jimmer instead, please remember he doesn't play the same positon as Kanter or Burks, we didn't need an undersized combo-guard, he gets to start on a bad team, and plays more minutes. If that's not enough, take a look at all of their stats side-by-side so far and take into consideration the four previous factors. It may or may not change your opinion, but at least you'll have all the facts.

    Again, I'm not a Jimmer-hater. I want the kid to do well, too. I just ask that we be more conscientious about the comments we make and the way we support players and teams.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Jimmer haters crack me up. They booed him ALL NIGHT LONG. Who does that?

    The kid was great last night. Every time Jimmer scored, Kevin O'Connor shifted himself in his seat. Kanter was a waste of a pick and we have no shooters.

    Jimmer is way beyond most rookies at this point, and he's playing for a bad team and even worse coach. When Jimmer made 3's the crowd was deafening. It was awesome.

    Frankly, the minority Jazz fans who booed him are the same miserable, pathetic people who live small lives.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 29, 2012 12:53 p.m.

    CJ was again with a steller game. The last 6 games, he has been the man in all of them. Good thing the Jazz have him on the team or they would have 10 loses by now.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 11:36 a.m.

    I would be hesitant to blame the lack of passing on the coaching, the Kings players without question are the biggest bunch of ball hogs I have ever seen assembled on one team. Jimmer and Isiah Thomas are the only ones on the team that will give the ball up. I don't think it is possible for them to ever be a good team without learning to share the ball.

    I think Thomas would be a good pickup for the Jazz. He's small but he makes up for it with aggressiveness and quickness.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 10:40 a.m.



  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Jan. 29, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    I would like to take the opportunity to point out that not one single BYU fan has come on this thread to insist that Jimmer indeed WAS the hero of last nights game, or would have been if the refs had called a foul on Mr. Watson. This is growth. This is stepping up and accepting a tough to handle outcome in a tough as nails way. I say Bravo.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    Looks like Jimmer got Jimmered.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 9:17 a.m.


    And the BYU haters are living up to their expectations.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:58 a.m.

    When our two top post guys only post moderate numbers and we win, it means they did a good job spreading the ball around. It's the only way to win consistently. There are teams that will take, and have taken the inside game away from the Jazz, tonight the other players made them pay. Hayward, Burks, C J, and even Bell before he left, set the tone. Jimmer looks to have a role in the NBA, but he will never get that shot off like he did at BYU. His best chance is to hone his point guard skills, and work on his defense. Jimmers lack of defense, coupled with Evans not being a great defender, helped our perimeter players get off last night.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    It is obvious that Jimmer produced lots of excitement. There is obviously no one on the Jazz who can do that. Millsap comes close. The "power pups" come close as well. D-Will had magnetism that he misused. Malone and Stockton came to play every night and the fans loved them for it. There are obvious inconsistencies. Did anyone else pick up on Watson's comment on UCLA and "per diem" checks?

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    The Kings got Jimmered! :-(

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    This sounds like it was a really fun game. That's the way it's supposed to be - energy, enthusiasm, excitement.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Jan. 29, 2012 6:33 a.m.

    Jimmer lived up to expectations. Missed the big one.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 5:19 a.m.

    I feel ad for Sacramento. They have some real talent but the Coach is clueless how to use it. The players are selfish from top to bottom and don't play as a team. Those guys need to get away from that team as quickly as possible.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Jan. 29, 2012 12:29 a.m.

    Wow, another tight game that could have turned into another loss. However, if I would have known before the game that our two best scorers, Millsap and Jefferson would combine for 18 points I would have thought we would be lucky to win at all. I doubt we will see very many games where both those guys have off nights offensively. Jimmer is going to be good and he'll win a lot of games in the future when he takes the last shot for the win. Tonight he missed, but I wouldn't bet against him too often.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Jan. 29, 2012 12:04 a.m.

    Luck was the only reason for the Jazz victory. Surely they can play better against such a terrible team. Very fortunate that Jimmer missed the shot that would have won the game for the Kings.