Utah Jazz: Gordon Hayward, Jimmer Fredette know the transition from college to the pros isn't easy

No longer big man on campus

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  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Jan. 27, 2012 3:38 p.m.

    Hayward was great in those games last year - His rookie season - still waiting for CJ to produce 6 / 7 games in row and it's been 6 years! - CJ does have talent but it's his attitude that stops him.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 27, 2012 2:05 p.m.

    Take your blinders off. What has Hayward done to prove that he is better than CJ? Nothing except in the fantasyland of you posters. Hayward is not better than CJ. Never will be. Talk about inconsistent play, except for 6 games last year, Hayward has been a disaster.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    Last season Gordon led the team in 3 pt %.

    So he is in a slump. It happens...and especially so with younger players. It will go away. He is one of the few on this team that you can afford to leave on the floor in a shooting slump. He actually helps his team mates. Half the time he has as many assists as our PG Harris.

    He rebounds, he plays defense, he hustles, and he contributes.

    What is the alternative? Insert CJ? Oh he has been a great model of consistency over the last 6 years. For once CJ actually strung a few games together so don't mess with it.

    Hayward will break out of the funk soon. If he wasn't working or playing hard I would say yank him but that is just not the case. His shot selection is fine and that is the bigger focus. He actually over-passes sometimes if you ask me.

    He needs to be with the starters who have a better ability to absorb his shooting slump. The bench won't help him.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    We've been waiting for CJ to emerge for how many years now? He's had his shot. The only reason you play CJ big minutes right now is to prop up his trade value. Hayward and Howard should get the bulk of the minutes at 3 otherwise.

  • Mitchell_12 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    CJ is playing well right now, but wouldn't you want him to stay with the bench players. He's the scorer for that 2nd squad. You pull him and put hayward it's going to affect the whole team. They have roles for a reason and I think the role CJ is in right now is the best for the whole team. As for Hayward, yeah he's in a funk right now but how many funks did CJ go through? Give him time, you gave CJ 7 years.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    Time for CJ to take his rightful spot as the starting 3. Time to sit the lesser talented Hayward on the bench. The boy can not shoot the rock. Time to walk the game instead of play the game.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    Add Hayward to the list of players whose shot has got messed up since coming to the Jazz.

    Hayward can be a great asset but he can't have faith in his game when his shot is in the tank. His confidence levels are shot right now and I am not sure leaving him out there til he gets it right does he or the team any good.

    He reminds me of AK in some ways as he gets aggressive on blocking shots, but in some of those he has just got beat by his man so he is struggling to make up the mess up.

    A good thing for Hayward is to come off the bench keeping the energy level high and come in for someone who is struggling. He gets sort of coevered whn the team has Jefferson and Milsap starting but when one is gone the pressure is too much on him to shoot and he is defintely not comfortable doing that.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    Time for Hayward to sit and watch for a while. This is the big leagues. If you miss shots but are playing within the offence, fine. When you are SCARED to shoot, not so fine.

    It's about winning games and Hayward is little help right now. Time for Burks.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    David Locke hit it on the head. The lockout hurt Gordon's draft class the hardest. No summer league, limited training camp. Gordon will have to make those improvements during this season now. I think he will be fine though, he seems like he has the work ethic, he is athletic and he loves the game.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Jan. 27, 2012 5:53 a.m.

    Gordon is too modest saying Jimmer did a lot more in college. In the games I saw in the NCAA tournament, Gordon was all over the place, doing many things that helped the team such as passing and rebounding. He seemed to disappear as a scorer sometimes, then, too, just like on the Jazz, but teams were focusing on him more his last year at Butler. Shoot Gordon, shoot.