2 Roy High students arrested in 'revenge on the world' plot to bomb assembly

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  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 27, 2012 2:23 p.m.

    awsomeron

    So this was all just a funny prank then?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    three11stu

    Sow a thought, reap an action;
    Sow an action, reap a habit.
    Sow a habit, reap a character.
    Sow a character, reap a destiny.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    Cleary we all need to be more aware of people that are hurting and feeling like the world is stacked against them.

    We are all in this together.

    Let's work to make this place better.

  • vallejo saltlake city, utah
    Jan. 27, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    Those teens are going to face a huge charge)
    of a price for the plan they were intentionally going to carry out.

    What is the cause a very creepy crazy ill minded way!

    Did they have a Broken home lots of unAnswers and Where are the parents they must be sick to even talk to them about why would you want to hurt others?

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 27, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    If these students want to act like thugs and animals then there will be consequences. All threats should be dealt with. In the aftermath of Cplumbine, so e students knew of the plot but didn't take them seriously until people were being shot.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 27, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    As smart as this kid is, what did he expect to live on in that foreign country? I would also like to know what that foreign country was and if he had contacts there. A Cessna cannot outrun an Air Force jet.

  • Soul Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    I have three question to ask of this dangerous situation?

    #1. Where do the parents of these dangerous kids fit into the overall picture?
    #2. What kind of home life produces this type of behavior in children?
    #3. How many such weirdo students roam our high schools in Utah, waiting to detonate?

  • Butch70 Spokane, WA
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    Where are we getting these so-called smart kids. Planning to blow-up a school. They are watching too many violent video games today. That where they get these crazy ideas.

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:32 a.m.

    Interesting, they are smart kids (are they?) but why a person would text to some friends? Was it a plot that they will do it or NOT. It was possibled they were just wanting attention. What's up?

  • windchimes saltlake city, utah
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:05 a.m.

    Breaking news!
    Just in on KSL news

    The 18yearold?
    Is out on Bail and Now he may get the charge as of now
    = mass murder =
    for this Awful unnatural Crime!!!!!!
    He was going to commit to the death and serious injuries
    too many lives
    at this RoyHighSchool he attended.

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 7:21 a.m.

    I find it hard to believe that any one would exonerate these two young men with the given facts. Look to search his home the police needed a warrant, and a warrant needs probable cause. Therefore we can assume that the police did have probable cause seeing how they seized many of the students personal effects. While probable cause is not a particularly high legal standard, when compared to preponderance of evidence and beyond reasonable doubt, it is still a clear benchmark. However does the fact of a search mean that they are guilty? No not necessarily but the evidence is clearly stacking against them. They were making plans and mapping school security. You rarely do that unless you plan on doing something nefarious.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 6:39 a.m.

    I had a typo on my last post, I meant "who" are shooting up their school, not "we" are.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 6:38 a.m.

    I know these are young men, but they know right from wrong and I do not care if they were bullied, have low self esteem, come from bad families, etc. If we look at Columbine, and even Virginia Tech and what happened at Trolley Square, we just have to make the punishments extremely severe. It is pure evil, and a slap on the wrist will only encourage future psychos we are contemplating blowing up/ shooting up their school. Also, can the media please quit putting them on the front page? The media contributes heavily to the problem.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 6:02 a.m.

    no one can steal a plane and fly off to a safe country. the ogden airport is right by the airforce base. How long do you think an unauthorized airplane can stay in the air? my guess is a few minutes. just saying.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Jan. 26, 2012 9:55 p.m.

    >Utah really needs to pay attention to it's schools.

    Possibly, but I do believe that Utah schools--even the government schools--teach that the possessive form of "it" does not require an apostrophe ("its").

    It's = a contraction of "it is"

  • awsomeron Waianae, HI
    Jan. 26, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    Cris B. Is that a whole name.

    I reread those posts and I understand them. What you do not get is that sometimes on this Board because of the Rules, you have to go around an issue in order to get to an issue.

    Awsomeron and Anon 808 (Area Code for Hawaii). Have known each other for a long time and are seperate but merged and bonded togeather. While they do not always take the same side in an issue. Mostly it is because they like equal time.

    Awsomeron is an on purpose misspelling of Awesomeron, more to show like most of us not exactly perfact. The user name has been me from late 1993. Anon 808 came along later mostly because of conflicts of interest. This Board allows you 5 different user names under 1 account. I have no problem writing under my everyday name, placed upon me by my parents. In 65+ years I have never ducked an issue.

    I take a stand and until proven different will continue, that there is a massive rush to judgement, and lack of media due process. Weather they did it or not. Nothing Blew up and No one died.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 8:46 p.m.

    Let me guess...

    They're ADD?

    Uhhh they're from "troubled" homes?

    Can we blame the teachers/UEA?

    What we miss the most in today's schools is accountability. I'm sure these kids will blame everyone but themselves. Bullying, their parents, the administration, video games, Obama, the economy, and the teachers.

    Time to set an example and put these kids away for a long long LONG time.

    You wanted to be big shots? Good. Now try them as "Big Shots."

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Jan. 26, 2012 8:42 p.m.

    This is a terrible situation, and I am appreciative of all that intervened to thwart this disaster. My question is: why has the name of a juvenile been published in association with an alleged crime?

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 7:26 p.m.

    "Me and her were terrified..."

    Utah really needs to pay attention to it's schools.

    Flight simulators are not like flying a real plane. They'd have ended dead in the dirt. Now they're spending the best part of life in jail.

  • Rob Logan, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 6:51 p.m.

    So sad.

  • xxJazzAddict05xx heber, ut
    Jan. 26, 2012 6:18 p.m.

    @three11stu,

    So are you suggesting that we wait until they blow up a school until we stop them. That is ridiculous. There would have to be additional evidence that would make the police believe there could be danger. Its better to stop it before it happens and see if the boys can be found innocent or guilty than to wait and know they were guilty after several deaths and injuries.

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    @Chris B:
    Thank you for the link. Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't there be the need of something stating that they were going to take action and bomb the school, or hint that they were going to cause some sort of destruction? I don't believe that we have all the facts on the case, but simply logging hours on a flight simulator and having detailed plans about the security system of the school wouldn't lead to imminent danger.

  • Cris B. Sandy, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    awesomeron,

    Besides, barely being able to understand what you are saying, why the need to switch from "awesomeron" to "Anon" and back to "awesomeron" in a matter of minutes? 3 scattered and barely understandable posts don't combine to make 1 good one.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 5:09 p.m.

    three11stu
    Saratoga Springs, UT

    You may want to review, among others, the Supreme Court's 1969 ruling in Brandenburg vs. Ohio. What you are illustrating is not necessarily protected speech, as any number of White Hate groups have discovered.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    EXACTLY RIGHT BRAVE SIR ROBIN!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 26, 2012 4:33 p.m.

    Who is paying for the flight simulator?

    Reading comprehension, people...reading comprehension.

    Paragraph 7, line 1: "The pair had also purchased an advanced flight-simulator program and "logged hundreds of hours" on it, according to Bond"

  • awsomeron Waianae, HI
    Jan. 26, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    We have a whole lot of lack of due process here. Plus a lot of judgement before the facts are proven.

    Who is paying for the Flight Simulator Instruction?

    I am thinking big fairy tale here.

  • Anon 808 Waianae, HI
    Jan. 26, 2012 4:11 p.m.

    If it was me and I walked. Then the Heroic Student needs to leave the area.

  • awsomeron Waianae, HI
    Jan. 26, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    Can we all say much to do about nothing and Snitch.

    If you found nothing you have nothing so you have much to do about nothing and talk is cheap.

    They may have told this to this "Heoric Student" in order to fit in and to work his mind.

    This is what lack of a girl friend on cold winter days will do for you.

    If you have full knowledge of a security system and what it does and does not do then perhaps that system needs to be looked at.

    A lot of people lean how to fly. Again a story to work this Heroic students mind.

    I want to see what is on the Heroic Students Hardrive.

    Perhaps the heroic Student could Not get in on it, and did not realize there was nothing to get in on.

    A lot of people tell storyies because none-ya- business does not shut a lot of people up. To much butch cassidy and sundance kid movies. Plus lots of cold days with no releaf.

    Make for a bad day and a life time worth of trouble.

  • TheAtheist SLC, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:55 p.m.

    I am very thankful that this was foiled. I could not imagine how damaging this could of been to the communities and families.

  • skylinestar saltlake city, utah
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:42 p.m.

    How depressing

  • Uncle Mordecai GREAT FALLS, MT
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:39 p.m.

    I so much prefer reading about the apprehension of would-be-evil doers rather than trying to mourn with the families of victims after the fact. Good job to everyone involved and kudos to the police department for acting so quickly!

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:11 p.m.

    Without any bombs found or dangerous material, is it really a crime to plan stuff? What if they were just doing this research in their spare time, and were never going to act out on it, and just wanted to see how it could be done?
    If I wrote a book about how I would commit a crime, say, robbing a bank, and I have details about the crime, such as when I would strike and detailed plans of an escape route and hideouts, etc. does that make me guilty of actually robbing a bank, or conspiring to rob a bank?

  • westcoastlife saltlake city, utah
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    What wrong with you school kids anymore?
    Going to school is an adventure for education become a responsible person,
    good morals to Value ones life!
    A big error of a Big mistake..Duhh
    Kids now a days need to find other sources to keep out of trouble)
    And Not a great choice to send out harm's way in ways of death to others!

  • UTOutlaw North Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Why are you giving the 16 year old's name? Don't you have to have parental permission to write about a minor in instances like this?

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:30 p.m.

    Why does the media continue to publish these stories? They contribute to the problem. These psychos that plan these attacks love the attention from the media. Quit publishing articles about it and it will help end school attacks.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:27 p.m.

    Time for these kids to meet Justice. Hopefully the 16 year old will be tried as an adult. These types of actions cannot be tolerated.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:24 p.m.

    @ClarkKent - My guess is they probably were using a home computer program...

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    "Winham says the teens had plans to escape to Ogden Hinckley Airport and had trained for hundreds of hours with flight simulators to pilot a plane."

    Who was writing the check for hundred of hours with flight simulators?