Political epiphanies

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  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    Re: "Threat --- Communist RED China."

    Yeah -- to the Air Force. Not to any decisive arm of the military.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 3:08 p.m.

    procuradorfiscal | 2:21 p.m. Jan. 26, 2012
    Tooele, UT
    Re: "The Military's deepest concern - and America's real and true threat is China."

    procuradorfiscal-- a little reality check for you....

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    Just had my "Top Secret" clearance re-activate my friend.

    Computers --- NUMBER 1 issue.
    Threat --- Communist RED China.

    Who causes it?
    American Businesses offloading and outsourcing.

    Sorry about the facts.

    The Middle Eastern countries were never a threat to America,
    only their OIL.

    And there are more than enough Anti-American radicals in the far-Right-wing here already.
    Home Land Security is not just watching illegal fruit picker crossing from Mexico.

    ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 2:21 p.m.

    Re: "The Military's deepest concern - and America's real and true threat is China."

    Lib -- a little reality check for you....

    Better said -- the AIR FORCE'S deepest concern . . . is China.

    It's the only nation that poses a credible, if somewhat remote, threat to the Air Force's shiny new, too-expensive-to-deploy, high/fast-flying air and space toys.

    In the Army, we're a lot more concerned about reality -- meaning the Middle East and Southwest Asia -- since that area is much more likely to see American boots on the ground than China.

    Decreasing American military might at this point in world history -- as liberals are intent on doing -- would be, not just truly demented, but truly evil, and would result in the death and misery of millions.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 11:20 a.m.

    Mike Richards | 2:06 p.m. Jan. 25, 2012
    South Jordan, Utah

    You would be too busy protecting yourself and your family from every nation on earth that would gladly overrun the United States.

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    Mike - a little reality check for you....

    I'm a veteran.
    I work at HAFB.

    The military is not the least bit concerned and never HAS been worried about nuts in Iran or boogiemen in Syria or anywhere else in the Middle East.

    The Military's deepest concern - and America's real and true threat is China.

    But the GOP and business leaders don't see it that way.
    They oggle and cottle the Communists all in the name of the all mighty $$$ - which is where their real alligence and priority lies.

    The uber-right and their radio talk show-hosts, along with the GOP are pimping out America to the very enemy the military is trying to protect us from.

    and one day -- the Yellow horse will come calling in America's debts to THEM.....

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Jan. 25, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    We have a history of fighting in places to protect our interests. There is interest in protecting prosperity. It is your job to pay for health care. I read were Thomas Jefferson went across the globe to protect our interests.

    Why did Roosevelt go to Moroco and Germany before Japan. There is an axis of evil and we go were we can nip the wars in the bud not necessarily headquarters. Why didn't we go straight to Moscow.

    Iraq was a major instigator in the axis of evil and we are there to nip it in the bud. We have military bases in several coungries and our military protects those citizens from evil men in government. No one protectected the Jews from Hitler for a long time and look what happened there?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 25, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    re: Atl134,

    Read the Constitution.

    There is NO authorization to spend even one dime on healthcare. If you believed in law and order, you would demand that the Federal Government stop all unauthorized spending.

    You would admit that Mr. Obama and his friends in Congress have "brainwashed" you into believing that they possess the authority to spend money on non-constitutional programs.

    You would admit that Mr. Obama has spent three years convincing you that some "rich guy" will pay for your insurance.

    You would admint that Mr. Obama has spent three years convincing you that you deserve the fruits of your neighbors' labor.

    You would admit that Mr. Obama has spent three years convincing you that everything would be ideal if we had no military.

    If we had no military, the least of your problems would be Mr. Obama's grand dream of an America that begs Washington for food, clothing and housing. You would be too busy protecting yourself and your family from every nation on earth that would gladly overrun the United States.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    So what you all are saying is that spending a trillion dollars is worth it to blow up Iraq that posed no threat to us because maybe somehow a few of them might cause a few deaths in America... but spending a trillion on healthcare for American citizens is immoral? You have really weird priorities.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    Correction --

    Romney's Dad was spot-on!

    The GOP is a bunch of War-Mongering Profiteers.
    His father Goerge Romney woke-up (epiphany per this article) and realized what was really happening in Vietnam [War-profiteering].

    Only HE had enough integrity to speak the truth,
    and it cost him the election for doing so.

    His father was pro-business, true enough,
    but he was also;
    pro-Union
    Anti-Big Oil [as CEO of AMC motors, he was anti-gas-guzzlers]
    Anti-War

    Much like Mitt was back as Gov. of Mass.

    The new Mitt - the Flip-Flop Mitt ---
    is more like the son of George W. Bush, than George W. Romney.

    Sad.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    "Yeah -- you just keep shrieking that, as loudly as possible, and maybe a few mindless liberal lemmings will someday come to believe it."

    Yeah, Bush's own advisers and the report from the 9/11 commission obviously don't know what you know

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    higv | 7:33 a.m. Jan. 25, 2012
    Dietrich, ID
    ARe we supposed to be pacifists? Thing is we fight those wars so those enemies don't come on our soil. The cold war was fought in Korea and Vietnam. Leaving vietnam cost many vietnamese lives as evil people are over there killing there own people. Freedom is worth more than life.

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    If War is really about defending freedom and saving lives, why didn't we do anything about the 800,000 human beings slaughtered in Rwanda, but attacked, killed and occupied Iraq for 10 years?
    [hint: it had everything to do with no OIL or commercial interests being there.]

    And the GOP wants to turn right around and attack Iran --- pathetic.

    War-mongering Profiteers!

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 10:30 a.m.

    Re: "Iraq was never a threat to come to our soil and had NOTHING to do with 9/11."

    Yeah -- you just keep shrieking that, as loudly as possible, and maybe a few mindless liberal lemmings will someday come to believe it.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    "Thing is we fight those wars so those enemies don't come on our soil"

    Iraq was never a threat to come to our soil and had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Jan. 25, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    ARe we supposed to be pacifists? Thing is we fight those wars so those enemies don't come on our soil. The cold war was fought in Korea and Vietnam. Leaving vietnam cost many vietnamese lives as evil people are over there killing there own people. Freedom is worth more than life

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    Doubt it. He has his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing on that particular day. He is not showing strength of conviction like his dad did. I've seen some great articles lately that if Mitt was strong like his dad, he would probably be doing better.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 5:35 a.m.

    Don't count on it. You do not win many conservative votes by admitting that an American military operation is unethical. And if there is one thing that Mitt Romney is best at as a politician, it is changing and shaping his views so they will be popular with his targeted electorate.