Will BRAIN Act create or drain American jobs?

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  • Miss Piggie L.A., California
    Jan. 14, 2012 9:50 p.m.


    "If people want to come legally, let them come."

    Therein lies the problem. Letting them come. They come with temporary visas for work, school, tourism, etc... then they forget to go home. They overstay. They didn't intend to go home at all. Over 40 percent of illegals in this country fall in this category.

    "We need to make it easier for people to come through with the full blessing of our government."

    We don't need any more immigrants than we are now getting... through the legal process. We have no jobs for them. WE have 15 million unemployed Americans sucking up unemployment benefits... from money most of which we must borrow. We have no space for them in our schools and universities. We have no resources to take care of their needs when they get here. We're full up. Our jobs are gone... overseas. Immigrants would do well to look elsewhere to a job and a life.

  • A Man's Perspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 9:08 p.m.

    I work in the information technology field. I have for nearly 20 years. Dr. Matloff is correct. Unfortunately, our immigration system is used by unscrupulous employers - these employers pass over highly qualified Americans in favor of foreign workers. Usually the foreign workers are here on a work visa - visa that is owned by the employer. This makes the foreign worker a "de facto" indentured servant. Thus, the worker is less likely to quit, and easier to control. These are exactly the reasons why employers favor foreign workers over Americans. Almost all of the visas are used for jobs that can be easily filled by American workers. Very few of the visas are used for foreign workers with a Ph.D. Often, "body shop" consulting companies use up tens of thousands of these visas to supply a large pool of cheap, compliant "indentured servant"-like labor, and thus the visas get gobbled up by cheap labor organizations, and when a true need for a foreign worker with a Ph.D comes along, frequently the visas are all gone.

    The USA needs to reform this first before passing any new laws that appear to bring in more of the worlds "best and brightest". Most likely any new law or program will be used to do more of the same - pass over qualified Americans in favor of visa workers.

    Read Dr. Norm Matloff's research to find out more. I have read much of his research and I have seen this first-hand in the IT world. I don't blame the foreign workers - they are not the problem. It is the unscrupulous employers and bad laws passed that are the problem.

    Reform the problem first before expanding it to make it worse.

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 6:30 p.m.

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
    But alas, our shores are full;
    Make them wait for several years until they fulfill
    All immigration standards, procedures, and regulations."

    If people want to come legally, let them come. We need to make it easier for people to come through with the full blessing of our government. Our immigration policy continues to be a joke.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 1:32 p.m.

    I feel that an immigrant who truly wants to become an American, work hard, support our constitution, salute our flag and if necessary, defend it should be welcomed with open arms. There are a legion of so called Americans who gained the right to be call citizens by birth that will won't even put their hand over their heart when the flag passes. I would deport them first.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    Why is this even an issue? America is a land of opportunity for anyone who yearns to breath free and work. Nationality, race, religion shouldn't even enter the discussion. If someone can bring skills and live within the rules of constitutional law, let him come. When government starts to pick and chose who gets what based on race, religion or minority status, one bias turns into another bias.

  • M. Matchette Syracuse, Utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    The global plan is to deindustrialize the country and implode the economy. Time to return to our Constitution and Bill of Rights. We'll never fix any of our current woes till we as a people return to our founding principles and values. Not the phony values pushed on society today...

  • lawenforcementfromAZ Glendale, AZ
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:09 a.m.

    I recently listened to an entrepreneur complain that job applicants for his factories cannot even read installation instructions.

    According to this article, the answer is to allow more trained and talented foreign workers who can read and write to immigrate

    Then, what do we do with the masses in our once great nation who cannot read or write, let alone hold a technical job? The millions who failed to become educated by our liberal, pass-them-all schools, or who were more interested in marijuana or crack or the popular culture? Or those who had parents more interested in their careers or having fun, rather than being a parent to their children and interested in their education?

    I don't even want to consider the answer from our politicians or so called educators.

    Our schools must be changed, and not through granting of billions more in federal education dollars (which we dont have). Simple: back to basics with accountability. No social promotions, no more emergency teaching credentials for unqualified teachers, and specific performance testing for teachers to ensure they know their subjects.

  • wrz L.A., California
    Jan. 14, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    What does the BRAIN Act do?

    1. Discriminates against immigrants who might not fall into the brainiac category. It's my understanding that America is for fair and equitable treatment for all regardless of race, ethnicity, or creative capacity. Imagine this: 'Sorry potential immigrant, Green card denied. You're just not smart enough.'

    2. Unfairly drains talent from other countries. Why does the US think it needs to gobble up all the world's talent to create jobs here? Doesn't other countries need job creation as well? Furthermore, any jobs that a foreigner might create in our university labs will more than likely go overseas for the manufacturing process.

    3. Plugs up our education system with foreigners. Education slots which should be reserved for US citizens. Americans have all the creative potential that other countries possess. Our problem, if there be one, is our nanny state government unemployment handouts which kill drive and incentive.

  • Laurels Sandy, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    @RichardB | 6:04 a.m. Jan. 14, 2012

    Banaei is being used as an example. Of course he is not the only one who is working on technology associated with nano clothing. However, he probably has applied for or holds a patent (or patents) on different aspects related to this technology.

    The thrust of the article is that a bill is being proposed that would make it easier for foreigners who are graduate and PhD students at American universities with a lot of gray matter, who are working on cutting edge technology, to get U.S. citizenship...fast track their applications.

    The article states that in the last decade, skilled/educated foreigners granted citizenship have created 2.6 jobs for U.S. citizens for every job they've "taken." Proponents of the bill are putting forth the case that fast-tracking citizenship applications for this subset of people makes economic sense for our country...that "Americanizing" this intellectual capital is a smart investment for the country in general.

    Banaei is just a specific example of the subset of people the bill would fast fastrack for citizenship.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 6:04 a.m.

    After doing a little research, it seems there are several groups that claim to have invented nano clothing that generates electricity. Georgia Institute of Technology, the University of Texas, Rice University, Stanford University and several others could lay partial claim. It seems it would of been invested without Esmaeil-Hooman Banaei, one of many who lay claim to technology that has existed for a while, just never applied.

    Jan. 14, 2012 12:29 a.m.

    Legal and illegal immigration is not the same thing. They affect the economy different. Combining the two is deceptive. Please, let's get some journalistic integrity in the immigration debate. That is the place it needs to start, accepting they are two different groups, and each affects our country differently.

    There is no proof that immigration contributes right away to the economy. A success story is very rare, and does not justify mass changes for cheaper labor. No matter where it lands in the economic scale.

    Let's invest in America and educate our people.

  • annzyoung NEW YORK, NY
    Jan. 14, 2012 12:24 a.m.

    According to a 2011 study by the Knowledge is Power Program, only about 31% of Americans between the ages of 25 and 29 have a bachelor's degree or higher. In order to assist those with out degree we need High Speed Universities online