Online K-12 schools underperforming, study says

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  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 7:55 a.m.

    instereo hit the nail on the head.

    We already have the "electronic high school" in Utah. On top of that we have BYU which offers online courses for high school kids at a cheaper rate than what SB65 calls for.

    SB65 takes our Utah money and sends it out of state to whatever company wants to claim they are providing online education. I dealt with one of the schools based in Arizona and it was terrible. You just had to jump through the hoops and claim credit. No real learning ever took place.

    This is not the wave of the future unless you are a local legislator.

    Time to put the money where it can really make a difference, our local schools.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 12, 2012 8:33 p.m.

    Howard Beal,

    You make some good points. Nothing beats face to face communication and variety is also good.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Jan. 12, 2012 1:17 p.m.


    you ask fair questions and most teachers hate the emphasis on standardized scores. But most people do best being taught by a living, breathing human being, not a computer or a TV set. Is on-line good for some students. Yes, but saying it is going to be revolutionary to education is out to lunch. I'm even doing my Master's Degree mostly on-line with some hours of teacher interaction. I'm okay with the on-line and enjoy many aspects of it. But I'm not dumb enough to say that this will work for most people, let alone all people. And even still, I enjoy interacting face-to-face with my teachers/professors. Younger people often need human contact even more, more positive role models etc. Teaching is more than dispersing facts which I suppose a computer can do just fine. Most of our young students (high school or younger) need positive human interaction to learn best and again learning goes beyond learning just the facts.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 12, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    "Online K-12 schools underperforming, study says"

    What study? Who's doing the study? Compared to what? In schools we hear the term "research based", which means "useless strategies". Does standardized testing improve learning and motivation?

    Of the students going to college, half is in need of remedial classes. Teachers pass students to avoid trouble with high failure rates.

    We import foreigners to fill our colleges and technical jobs. Our highest performing students are from India and Asia.

    We've spent more money on education than any other civilization. Our school system is the biggest scam in history. It is better to teach and learn, than to compare test scores.

  • annzyoung NEW YORK, NY
    Jan. 12, 2012 4:47 a.m.

    I have been a student at one of the High Speed Universities online since August 2009 and it has been an answer to my prayers. Their assessments and papers are NO easy task, so for those who say online schools are "dummed down" are highly mistaken.

  • Ares Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    Obviously.... not everyone can teach themselves at a younger age and require interaction to learn.

    I'm with you Goet, DUH.

  • Instereo Eureka, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    Last year Sen. Stevenson championed SB65 a bill that basically will require students to take online courses and then take money from the school districts to pay private companies to provide the instruction. Utah already had an Electronic High School that was funded and helping districts provide online opportunities for students without a cost to the districts but his bill will basically eliminate the cost effectiveness or ability to attract students that it previously had. In other words in light of the research this article points out, his bill is taking money from school districts, moving it to private hands, and hurting the learning opportunities of students. I hope during this legislative session, SB65 can either be repealed or significantly changed to actually help students and not drain precious dollars from school districts to pay for something they can do better.

  • Goet Ogden, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 5:25 p.m.

    Can anyone give me a "duh"?

    Online education, at least in Utah, is nothing but a shell game to take the money that should go to public schools and redistribute it to private companies. Many of these companies are connected to our local legiscritters.

    Being a student of many types of classes myself, including online, broadcast, email, in person, etc., I can attest to the huge disconnect that many students can and do feel running their education game solo. Online school is NOT the wave of the future as it doesn't account for so many variables that young students need in a face-to-face, live-person encounter.

    Of course, this study and the personal experiences of thousands of teachers will be completely discounted by the legislators. There is no money in doing what is right here, at least not for them, so they will continue destroying public ed. in the name of "progress".

  • rexwhitmer ELFRIDA, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2012 4:33 p.m.

    It has been my observation, having been a father of nine children I raised in the public schools, my education which was to have been a secondary teacher who found more lucritive employment elsewhere and my wife's experience as a person who worked with trainable children that in most instances when the Federal Government exceeds it's constitutional limitations that whatever program it invests itself with, one of which is education, it adopts an exclusively Liberal response, which always detracts from the suposed object it addresses itself to. This has occured in spades as far as education is concerned. Education is an article ten matter and will be best handled by parents and community.