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  • Uncle Charles Where freedom and liberty reign, utah
    Jan. 11, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    @Esquire: it may be true but I don't think it is the norm. And I also am confident that those complaining on here are just frustrated they weren't able to convince their neighbors that their way was the right way and they weren't elected as delegate.

    There are some great whiners on these pages; most of who have never attended a caucus or having been to one in years.

    The General Election is taking it to the people. Any person can file to run in the General Election. Bennett was considering doing it after he lost in convention. He could have used all his millions to buy votes of the masses who only know his name.

    The proposal as Leavitt and crowd have stated it is to circumvent the convention when the Establishment doesn't like the result. We wouldn't be hearing one thing about the system if Bennett would have won. Not one word.

    The point is the Establishment lost their power to the people and they don't like it. They want it back.

    It's an easy concept to understand. As for political parties: join one or don't but you have no say in who represents a party.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 12:22 p.m.

    @ Uncle Charles, I have attended caucuses. All the complaints you read about in comments on the topic are true. Just take it to the people rather than have aggressive political organizations run the show on a de facto basis. What's wrong with that?

    Jan. 11, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    There is nothing wrong with the caucus system! What is interesting to me is the meme that is being perpetuated that the Republicans have moved WAY over to the FAR right. What about the wackos on the FAR LEFT? They are just as crazy, only in an opposite direction. I suppose we are not seeing the far left wackos because they have an incumbent.

    Of course the republicans have to appeal to the base of the party during the nominating process. But when someone is nominated the candidate will move toward the center to attract unaffiliated voters.

    Also, the current caucus system is great if we can't have term limits. It's a lot easier to get someone else in instead of incumbents.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    keep the republican caucus system, as the radical right continues to take over, the more sensible republicans may start to leave the party shaking their heads. Too many people support the republican party without alot of thought, anyone who votes straight party on a ballot, and then leaves everything else blank, should have their ballot invalidated. If you can not vote individually for each person you choose, then you are not being a good voter.
    The dominace of the republican party in our state politics is not a good thing: they will not vote for a ban on gifts which many people see as nothing but bribes. They tried to ban GRAMMA disclosure laws, they circumvent public meeting laws by calling everything party planning sessions.
    The best thing that could happen in this state is for the caucus and block meetings to continue; it will force more people to leave the republican party.

  • Uncle Charles Where freedom and liberty reign, utah
    Jan. 11, 2012 8:51 a.m.

    @Esquire: You must be one of the naysayers whose never attended a caucus or you wouldn't post such misinformation, just like the letter writer.

    Leavitt, Bennett, Hatch, Jowers etc ARE the insiders! Look at who wants to change the rules now that Bennett got tossed --- the establishment insiders!

    They are furious that conservative republicans came out in droves to make their majority voices heard. Bennett lauded the system a few years ago and even pushed for it to be 60% threshold from the 70% to make it easier to get out of convention without a primary.

    Leavitt and crowd want to circumvent the caucus/convention system for their own power grab. They want to hold on to what they lost in 2010.

    What's pathetic is all the voices on the Dnews threads who aren't Republican and don't attend the caucus yet post as if your opinion is fact.

    March 15 is the night. Spend an hour with your neighbors talking about the issues that affect us as citizens. Vote for a delegate and then stay in contact with that delegate through the convention.

    2010 was the start folks -- 2012 will bring more change to Utah!

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 7:42 a.m.

    Utah politicians playing games for their almost annual political purposes. Now, except for the insiders, the people are not happy with the system.