BYU football: Cougars survive blustery year

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  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 12, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    One word to describe the countless trolls who are desperately wishing and hoping in vain for the demise of BYU football--Pathetic.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 12, 2012 12:03 p.m.

    Next year will be even more blustery. Does anyone really get excited about BYU football anymore?? I guess the fans that take their kids to eat nothco's and hotdogs and just have a fun fall day listening to the band etc... With Bronco trying to leave the program now that should send a message to all Cougar faithful about the future of the program. Blustery and dying....

  • U R Not Man Until a BCS Bowl Mars University, Mars
    Jan. 12, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    I think BYU football is really going the way of the dinosaur. I fully expect BYU to do away with its football program in another 4-5 years.

    It has been on a fast and hard downward spiral for the last few years. Nothing can stop the unavoidable trainwreck.

    At least we have one great, exciting and BCS football program in the State.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Jan. 12, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    I have to admit that I was ready to give up on BYU this year. Let's face it, there were many reasons to be disappointed this year:

    -Terrible schedule;
    -Out of BCS contention with just one loss;
    -Brocno clearly did not have much passion for this team as it looked like he was falling asleep on the sidelines;
    -No invitation to the BIG 12; and
    Mediocre recruiting class for 2012, etc., etc, etc.

    Notwithstanding the above, I cleaned out my garage this last week and I found my "Quest for Perfection" t-shirt that had been hidden away in a corner. It gave me inspiration and hope that 2012 could be our year. Let's do it!! Quest for Perfection 2012! I will start printing the shirts.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Jan. 12, 2012 12:09 a.m.

    Two weeks since the football season ended and now it is waiting till Football starts again in the fall season. Surely this non football season brings football withdrawals. Cougar fans will survive with the basketball games going on.

    To the poser above who suggested BYU is not relevant. It would appear that Cougars are relevant to you as you took the time to read and post.

    Fans are often optomistic about their team. Why do trolls need to criticize? Geez, let a fan have some fun. Must the trolls always try to tear down an opponent?

    Oh and considering the BYU - Utah rivalry. I hope it ends. Reading all these troll posts is getting old.

    Go Cougars.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 5:03 p.m.

    "BYU will go undefeated and contend for the NC game."
    "BYU will be the first one-loss AQ to earn a BCS bid."
    "Jake Heaps will be a finalist in the Heisman race."


    I'd like you to provide references for at least 2 BYU fans making the claims you say they made. Until then, I'm calling you out on putting words in their mouths and then making fun of them for it.

    Also, I thought you knew a bit more about football scheduling, but since you obviously don't, let me fill you in; teams sign contracts years in advance. Scheduling last minute like BYU has had to do these last few years is HARD and Holmoe put together a respectable schedule considering the circumstances.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    @ Naval Vet

    How's that Utah vs. TOT working out? (Hint: the TOT [Team Over There] hadn't won a road game in four years. Then they came to Utah and their fortunes improved.) I understand that Colorado prevented Utah from playing in the first PAC 12 Championship Game, representing the Southern Division. My, who but Cougar fans would have guessed.

    And next year, Utah vs. TOT is in Boulder. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Ute locker room after the game if TOT wins again.

    PS The folks in Boulder are just estatic that Utah is in their conference, in case you were wondering.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 11, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    "The pre-season hype was a bit much:
    'BYU will go undefeated and contend for the NC game.'
    'BYU will be the first one-loss AQ to earn a BCS bid.'
    'Jake Heaps will be a finalist in the Heisman race.'
    Not close to a BCS bid, and who'd have guessed Jake would be gone?"

    I remember all those quotes coming from Ute Trolls, not BYU fans.

    And SLCSporstsFan has been wishing and hoping for the Church to pull the plug on sports at BYU for a long time because he just can't deal with the competition from the Provo. Sorry it ain't gonna happen. The Church knows a good thing when it sees it. There will always be BYU sports with BYUTV broadcasting it as long as there is nothing like a Penn State incident.

  • JosephMother Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 4:04 p.m.


    Good thing Utah has the chance to avenge that loss to CU. Although it will be in Boulder this time! Lose two years in a row to the Pac-12 cellar dweller? The horror!! Well, to be fair to CU, maybe the TUN is looking to take over that distinction.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 11, 2012 2:25 p.m.

    "Much of the Cougars' success will depend on how they start, and with games against Washington State, Utah, Boise State, Oregon State and Notre Dame..."

    Uh, no. Much of the Cougars' success will depend on their pending weak SOS by returning every one of their WAC-lite opponents from LAST season to their COMING season. That was pretty much the story of their 2011 success.

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 2:24 p.m.

    I know the polls do not mean anything but CNN just released its early look at next year and BYU is #27- Utes sorry to say were not on the list

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    As a life long Ute fan, I have to acknowledge the returning talent for BYU looks impressive. I think your wide receivers have big time talent and Van Noy brings amazing atheleticism to the defense. Should make for a great game next year.

    Go Utes.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Jan. 11, 2012 10:30 a.m.

    Pac-12 Fan you described Utah's schedule to a tee. There is nothing to gloat about having a Whacky-12 South division heavy schedule..... Especially when the bottom of the barrel was able to beat you. So, make sure that when you rise up to shoot down the Cougars you aren't shooting into a rock in turn shooting your own eye out.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    Cheer up PAC12fan. Some of those weak PAC sisters from your schedule this year are bound to improve. Of course, that means some of them will likely beat U, but your conference, currently rated the #4 football conference and the #9 basketball conference is bound to improve. Can't get much worse...especially the southern division.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    Go ahead ask Chris Hill to go with Big10 contract and overkill your schedule. Have fun with this storied program of yours and take a lot of pain medications.

    Yes, Novermeber schedule on BYU wlll end up like it did last year. So what, we save those cupcakes at the end. 2018 is a long way to go and who knows what landscape going to be like in college football.

  • Salemite Salem, Ut
    Jan. 11, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    I was surprised the Utes were not ranked. I think they should have been. The top-25 ranking given to the Cougars was more than generous.

    By the way - - - I'm a cougar fan, and I'm glad the season is over.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 8:42 a.m.


    If last year taught us anything, it's that CU is no cupcake for Utah.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 11, 2012 8:31 a.m.

    re: soonerute
    "It will be interesting to see what happens to the Cougars should they ever schedule 9 BCS opponents like the AQ conferences."

    Assuming we can schedule teams like U do against Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State I don't see the addition of 3 or 4 BCS teams presenting a problem. By the way, BYU has 7 BCS teams scheduled in 2013; including Texas, Boise State and Notre Dame. I'm pretty sure our 2013 SOS will rival the U's.

    Also, can you list your references? You put some statements in quotations. You should then list who made those quotations. For all I know they are your quotes. They are certainly not mine.

    re: BYU Joe
    "Oh Great - It looks like Idaho is becoming our rivalry game...."

    How many games are we committed to play Idaho? Versus, how many games are we committed to play Boise State? Hint: one of these teams has a 12 year deal with BYU. Hopefully, Utah won't chicken out and will continue to schedule us, but if they don't Boise State will become the new rival.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 6:56 a.m.

    "The Cougars are one of only 11 programs to be nationally ranked in at least one of the two major polls in five of the last six years." Congratulations!!!

    @ Soonerute
    That must really take a great spin job to be so hyped about playing BCS teams where the Conference of Champions went 2 - 5 in their bowl games. Did you notice that Notre Dame lost their bowl game, too?

    Here's a few other facts you missed:

    1- Your beloved Utah Utes lost to lowly Colorado, which hadn't won a game on the road in FOUR years, but managed to hold Utah to 39 yards in the first half.

    2- "Utah will play in the Rose Bowl." That's laughable.

    In your own words "Not even close but who'd have guessed that they did have a shot at it and couldn't beat Colorado at home and that Norm Chow would be gone?"

    A look in the mirror by Ute fans disparaging the Cougars is suggested. And remember, you guys would rather go 8 - 5 and be unranked than play on independent schedule and get ranked...wish granted. Good luck with the BCS in the future and being bottom feeders.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 6:40 a.m.

    Nothing says survival like an extremely weak schedule.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 11, 2012 5:58 a.m.

    Watch out....hear come the u trolls on a positive BYU article saying it isn't so. "Mark it down", "Write it down", whatever! If they were so right why are they sitting in their Mother's basement trolling on BYU articles and scratching to buy another bag of cheetos.

    Cupcake teams? how soon they forget Montana State and CU. Ooop's CU is their new rival and after all they are in the Conference of Champions even though they are one of the worst teams in the NCAA.

    Yes, we don't have the Notre Dame deal, but we can go further than u because you will never make it past USC. I would much rather be a Cougar fan than a fan of One Sport U. Have a nice hibernation u fans.

    Jan. 11, 2012 1:07 a.m.

    Oh Great - It looks like Idaho is becoming our rivalry game....

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 11:47 p.m.

    If we could get the G-Tech game in November that would help the sched a lot.

    For real though, next season will be a success depending on how the big games go. PERIOD. I'll admit I'm still not sold on Riley Nelson as a QB.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 10:17 p.m.

    Correction "first one-loss NON-AQ team". BYU doesn't have the Notre Dame deal.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 10, 2012 10:08 p.m.

    OK 1slcsportsfan, I marked your words. Right next to where I mark Chris B's "mark my words". Chris B is wrong more often than right, and your prophesy that BYU will be out of football by 2018 will be wrong also.

    I also hope that BYU is invited to fill one of the two remaining spots in the BIG12, but if they aren't they have proven they can make Indepence work. Absolutely, I would choose the Big12 over Indy, but I'll take Indy over MWC any day.

    For those who mocked the four or five cupcake games, I ask you to tell me how they are any different than playing New Mexico, UNLV, Wyoming or Colorado State in the MWC most years.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 10:06 p.m.

    Not a bad finish to the season.

    The pre-season hype was a bit much:
    "BYU will go undefeated and contend for the NC game."
    "BYU will be the first one-loss AQ to earn a BCS bid."
    "Jake Heaps will be a finalist in the Heisman race."
    Not close to a BCS bid, and who'd have guessed Jake would be gone?

    Next year is tougher for the Cougars. 5 BCS opponents instead of 4.
    It will be interesting to see what happens to the Cougars should they ever schedule 9 BCS opponents like the AQ conferences.

    Good luck.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 10, 2012 9:17 p.m.

    Many top teams play some cupcake teams. #1 SLC Sports Fan--live with it and quit the ute whining.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 10, 2012 8:52 p.m.

    Not even two weeks since the bowl game, and I'm already counting down the days to Spring ball and opening kick off.

    Here's my questions for 2012.

    QB - Will Nelson stay injury free? Is Lark capable of stepping in if need? How much playing time will Munns, Olsen and Hill get and which one will prove themself in 2012 to take over the reigns in 2013? I'm betting on Munns in 2013 and Hill in 2014.

    LB - Why is there no mention of Zac Stout? Fua looks talented, but also looks like he needs to put some "meat on his bones". He's built like a basketball player.

    WR - Will we see more production from Apo? Would love to see Apo and Hoffman both over 1,000 yards receiving.

    This schedule is a step up from 2011. There are some great October games on tap. News flash for fair weather fans and U trolls - November schedule is going to be weak again. Get over it. 2013 should be a better November schedule. If U think November has too many cupcakes, just remember Utah plays Colorado in November also.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 8:52 p.m.

    BYU celebrates a weak ranking in one poll only because USC wasn't eligible?

    Btw, wasn't the only championship the Cougars were playing for was the national championship?

    Fell a bit short I guess...

    But hey, they did go undefeated in the WAC.

    And they have another WAC heavy schedule to look forward to next year... so they have that going for them... which is nice...

  • #1 SLC Sports Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 8:40 p.m.

    BYU might be getting the exposure they desire and might have been able to get the 10 wins, BUT they were against a bunch of WAC cupcakes, and until better opposition is on the schedule, this is a program that will tread in relevance rather than gain the further recognition it wants. Until BYU joins a "real" conference (the Big 12 still could offer them a slot even without any Sunday play since tehy will be going back to 12 sooner than later), they will NEVER advance and only stagnate. By late in the decade they'll only be as relevant as Utah State.

    I would not like to be a BYU fan by say 2018 when ESPN chooses not to renew the contract and attendance is below 30,000 per game in a 60,000+ seat stadium, and the senior brethren on the LDS Church take the painful step to drop the football program at BYU. That will happen...mark my words.