A tale of two debates: Mitt Romney endures attacks while Jon Huntsman Jr. hits his stride

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    Jan. 10, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    Utah Blue Devil: This is what's called capitalism! Obama is president of the country (well not of republicans or rich people - as he himself points out) and as such it is not up to him to waste our tax money or choose winners and loosers.
    Gov Romney was not using our tax money! So if 30% failed - gee 70% did really, really well. Not bad.
    Since when do republicans not believe in capitalism?
    I think when this administration is investigated we will see just how much of the money from Tarp, etc., ended up in the hands of his bundlers. After all piven said that he was doing "great" things under the table. Just maybe we might find out what those things are.

  • Swedish reader Stockholm, Sweden
    Jan. 10, 2012 7:08 a.m.

    Swedish media is pointing out something noone in this forum is commenting on: that the other candidates are supplying Obama with ammunition against Romney. It looks like Romney will most likely be the Republican nominee. If that is indeed the case, these attacks on him won't have furthered any other Republican candidate's campaign - they will only hurt Republican chances in the presidential campaign. Is it really more important to lessen another Republican candidate's chances than it is to win the Presidential election?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 10, 2012 6:38 a.m.

    SG - it amazes me that these same people who praise Romney as the champion of free enterprise, while berate Obama as one who doesn't get business based off of Solindra, fail to acknowledge that 30% + of the companies Bain invested in failed or lost money. This was reported through research of the Wall Street Journal printed on Monday. The WSJ is hardley a tool of the DNC media machine.

    I don't say this to criticize Romney, but to point out how unbalanced some of the arguments are. If you point to Solindra, they you must also highlight the failures of Bain. How else do you come to an informed.

    Romney may be the best choice, but I would argue he has not been full vetted. Up to this it has been Romney's religion that has been an issue. It is only now that his true business record will come under scrutiney. If he is going to run as champion of wall street, that record will come under deeper inspection.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 10, 2012 12:28 a.m.

    Huntsman totally coasted into Utah politics on the reputation(coat tails) of his highly respected father. Can anyone tell us what he brings to the G.O.P. nomination?

  • sg newhall, CA
    Jan. 9, 2012 5:40 p.m.

    It amazes me that those who criticize Romney and his business dealings at Bain Capital apparently don't understand free enterprise. In fact, one of the first acquisitions (lending) from Baine was Stalpes. Romney listened to the owner of Staples way before it opened its first store, did research and realized it would be a sound investment ($600,000); today Staples employs 75,000 people. I don't imagine Huntsman can name one person he directly affected in securing employment or the others for that matter. Huntsman seems to be a bitter man who really has a dislike for Romney. Too bad. Huntsman at best would make a very viable Secretary of State under a Romney administration. Of course Huntsman can be bold in his rhetoric, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Romney, as the front runner, has a target on his back from the other 5 candidates. Lest we forget, Huntsman didn't earn his money, he inherited by working for dear old dad. Good for him, but to criticize Romney for being a venture capitalist is counter to what is American. Huntsman can't have it both ways. Romney is the best choice.

  • Marine Corps Vet Tempe, AZ
    Jan. 9, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    Mike in Sandy: Hey sport, you've got to be kidding. If you actually believe Huntsman would have a chance in the high roller game of presidential politics I've got some choice land in the Everglades I think you might be interested in.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Jan. 9, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    I know that.
    I have no idea what he would do if he's elected...but I needn't worry too much about that.
    The only Rep with a ghost of a chance to unseat Obama is Huntsman, but his nomination isn't likely.
    So we don't have to worry about paying Mitt's taxes for him anytime soon.

    Jan. 9, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    On the other hand | 8:59 p.m. Jan. 8, 2012
    Spanish Fork, UT
    OK, I give, what does huntsman offer that Romney doesn't?
    I understand the nastiness of politics, but huntsman has made it a point of always being snarky to Romney. Doesn't seem to do it to anyone else. If so please give me the link or the quote. I mean Perry was in #1 spot, so was Newt, so where were the comments about them.
    It seems huntsman takes particular relish in jabbing Romney.
    BTW, does he still have that advisor who worked for McCain (who huntsman supported) and really really dished Sarah?

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 9, 2012 10:56 a.m.

    Romney is a private equity pirate who made hundreds of millions of dollars off the backs of thousands of people cut from the workforce.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Jan. 9, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    We still have no idea of whom Romney is.
    All we hear is "I believe in America."
    "Obama is ruining us".

    I have no idea of his platform, ideals.
    Neither does he.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2012 9:50 a.m.

    Why is nobody discussing that all of these candidates said they would forcefully divorce every GLBT couple who have been married in the US since MA first legalized it?

    Discrimination and bigotry are not values I prefer in a candiate.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Jan. 9, 2012 8:07 a.m.

    The New York Times is reporting that Newt's super pac has received a $5,000,000 donation from a wealthy casino owner. They will use the money to post a 28 minute film about Romney titled "King of Bain, When Mitt Romney Came to Town". The 3 minute trailer is YouTube, and it looks like it really goes after Mitt and his hard ball business dealings at Bain.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 9, 2012 6:49 a.m.

    Jon jr. is totally a non-factor in 2012. Hardly a blip on the radar. Find anything he has accomplished. Good luck with that one!

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Jan. 9, 2012 6:36 a.m.

    Romney's stalwart persistence can weather this last minute panic of the undecided.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Jan. 8, 2012 11:29 p.m.

    Article quote: "Rick Santorum criticized Romney in the early going Sunday for not running for re-election as governor of Massachusetts in 2006. Romney defended that decision by saying, "I was trying to help get the state into the best shape as I possibly could, left the world of politics, went back into business." (and then....) "But can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney?" Gingrich asked rhetorically."

    Well, let's look at things: Romney left office in Blue State Massachestts with a balanced budget, a 2 billion rainy day fund, and 4.7% unemployment. If Romney is as liberal as RomneyBots carp he is why would he not have been re-elected? Arguably, vetoing his 80% Democrat Massachusetts legislature over 800 times in 4 years (yes, 800 times in 4 years) had something to do with Romney's perceived unpopularity in that far left state.

    Quite simply, the reason why Romney didn't run for reelection is he was perceived as being too conservative by Massachusetts' standards. The voters thought they were electing a technocrat that simply ran on the Republican platform, instead they had a Governor that was actually taking some conservative positions.

    Gee, imagine that....

    Romney 2012

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2012 8:59 p.m.

    @Star Bright, Huntsman is the bright spot in an otherwise dismal field of candidates. Huntsman has a lot to offer America that Romney and the others don't. Huntsman is critical of Romney for much the same reason as the other candidates: Romney's the current front-runner in the campaign. Don't take it personally; that's how politics goes, and most of these candidates will probably end up endorsing Romney in the end.

  • Aggielove Junction city, Oregon
    Jan. 8, 2012 8:02 p.m.

    One of the better lines came from perry last night, when they asked each candidate what they would be doing if not at the debate.
    Perry, "I would be at the gun range."
    That was pretty sweet.

    Jan. 8, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    Three years? Obama had 2 whole years without any interference at all. Thank heavens for the new congress in 2011 or by now we'd be 19 trillion dollars in debt in 3 years. It's funny I get this reporters slant without even reading - because of previous articles, he/she has written.

  • Aggielove Junction city, Oregon
    Jan. 8, 2012 7:42 p.m.

    You want to run a perfect campaign?
    That's fine, but you will loose.
    Nothings perfect.
    Romney will win GOP.
    But beating Obama, will be a flat out war.

  • Well Read SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 8, 2012 5:13 p.m.

    If the republican party doe NOT select Huntsman as the Presidential candidate they will throw away the best chance they have to take back the White House. All the other candidates have been stepping all over each other to out T party themselves. The American public is through with the T party. They have had it with their repeated attempt to shut down the government. I think the republicans will be disappointed when they wake up after the election to find out they have lost. They have been the party of no for three years. Myh opinion.

  • Scott Farcus Beaver, UT
    Jan. 8, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    I watched both debates, Romney smoked all the other Sat. night and Sun. mornings debate on Face the nation was won by Rick Perry when he gave theBEST line! he named all three departments that he would do away with! Classic!

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Jan. 8, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    The only reason I think huntsman is in the race is to take down Romney. From the very beginning he has been snarky and mean spirited and the only one he attacked was Romney.
    He is hurting his father's brand and it's hard to believe his family is doing this to another brother. I know we can't control our children when they mature but we don't have to open our pocket book for them and allow them to show how selfish and unChristian like they are.
    Someone warned jon jr when he hired his "hired gun" (smith[?]), but he wouldn't listen and he hasn't run an honorable campaign.