Having watched BYUtv for some time now, I would say it is getting better each
year. So far, I would grade the sports coverage a B+.As for ratings
of the Armed Forces Bowl, I would be interested to see how its ratings matched
up verses other bowls games played on ESPN during the day. Anyone know those
numbers? @Gilligan 12:28You might be stunned to hear
this, but there were in fact some BYU fans hoping Utah beat Georgia Tech. I know
this because I was one of them. I listened to the entire game and was happy the
Utes won. I even made several positive comments on this website after the
game.Did any Ute fans cheer for BYU in the Armed Forces Bowl? And don't say, "We didn't watch it because we don't care,"
because I know there were more than a few Ute trolls both before and during the
game saying things like, "I'm a Tulsa fan today." @Naval
VetBYU fans troll Utah articles and Utah fans troll BYU articles.
This shouldn't surprise anyone.By the way, THANK YOU for
your service to our country.
sportsfanforlife:Logic doesn't work too well on Utah fans either in case
you hadn't noticed.Naval Vet:The date and time of the 2011
Armed Forces Bowl broadcast were set in April 2011, before the opponents were
even known. The bowl game time used to be in the early afternoon but has had a
morning start for the last 3 or 4 years.And yes, your proclivity for
commenting on BYU sports articles does indicate an inexplicable obsession with a
school and team you feel are inferior.
I was at my brother house and watch a BYUTV broadcast on DISH. Ouch! The picture
was lousy. I have rabbit ears at my house and the digital signal is HD and
everything looks crystal clear. One of the best channels on my TV.I
too want to voice my gratitude for having the option to watch BYU sports again.
Best move Holmoe has ever made getting out of that terrible Mtn contract.
Independence was worth it for that one reason alone.
@naval vet as been said once before... DO NOT use logic with cougar fans it just
makes them more and more confused.. sad i know but thats y fans for ya..
Y Grad / Y Dad:"And yet YOU obviously care, soooo much! Thanks
for adding your support! Love us or hate us, at least you are here."And...since you responded to me...I suppose that means you obviously
care soooo much about what Ute fans think of you and your mid-majorey,
Indy-WACey program. Typical hypocritical coug.
Naval vet,And yet YOU obviously care, soooo much! Thanks for
adding your support! Love us or hate us, at least you are here. I don't know
how many cougar trolls commented on the Utah article because frankly, my dear, I
don't give a darn!
Gilligan:I certainly saw a small troop of frantic and emotional
cougar fans wildly cheering for the Yellow Jackets in the stadium near MY seat
while I was at the game. And, in typical cougar fashion, celebrated a Ga. Tech
win before the game ended, then made a fine exit after the officials signaled
JWIV's game winning touchdown.I find it very unlikely that those Y
fans were in Dallas the morning before. Oh well. I guess they just wanted to
see what REAL football; BIG BOY football looked like, and knew they weren't
going to see much of that their nobody-cares bowl vs. the 3rd-place CUSA
Of the 4.1 million watching the Sun Bowl: 3.5 million was Georgia Tech and BYU
Fans hoping for a loss
Here are some past names of head coaches that have come through the BYU football
program:Bart Andrus, Rocky Mountain College, 1996; Amsterdam Admirals,
2001Brian Billick, Baltimore Ravens, 1999-2007Gary Buer, Dakota
State, 1977-78; Southwest State, 1979-92, Southern Virginia, 2003Jim
Criner, Boise State, 1976-82; Iowa State, 1983-86Gary Crowton, Lousiana
Tech, 1996-98Wally English, Tulane, 1983-84Garth Hall, Idaho State,
1988-91Mike Holmgren, Green Bay Packers, 1992-98; Seattle Seahawks,
1999Tom Holmoe, California, 1997-2001Gordon Hudson, Utah Catzz,
1998Duke Iverson, W.Oregon, 1987-87, 2001; Western State 1988-2000Land Jacobsen, Wichita Stealth, 2001-2002Dave Kragthorpe, Idaho State,
1980-82; Oregon State, 1985-1990Jim Lind, Minnesota-Morris, 1983-86;
Wisconsin- Eau Claire, 1987-91Dennis Miller, Northern State, 1986-97;
Wisconsin Lutheran, 2000Wally Nalder, Weber State, 1962-64Dwain
Painter, Northern Arizona, 1979-81Jim Paronto, Mesa State, 1990-93John Payne, Saskatchewan Roughriders, 1973-76Doug Scovil, San Diego
State, 1981-85Todd Shell, San Jose Sabercats, 1995-98Mike Sheppard,
Long Beach State; New Mexico, 1987-1991Ted Tollner, USC, 1983-86; San
Diego State, 1994-2001
CougarBlue:"I imagine the Potato Bowl had more viewers because
of the time slots. Friday morning was not a good time slot for a game, most
people were working. Got to work on that in the future."The
Armed Forces Bowl had been broadcast by ESPN since its inception .
Therefore, ESPN could have aired that game anytime they wanted. However, since
that bowl game is so very mid-majorey, and featured 2 uninteresting opponents
with little national appeal, they stuck it in a timeslot wherein they wouldn't
lose too much money. For all the talk cougar fans have been boasting regarding
their relationship with ESPN, your "broadcasting partners" sure didn't
provide a very good venue for exposure. 10:00am MST? Haha! That probably had
to compete with "Sesame Street".I love how Duckhunter
taunted Utah fans -- prior to our respective bowl games of course -- about how
the Armed Forces Bowl would have more viewers than the much more prestigious Sun
Bowl, and how nobody would go to our game. Now that the Nielsen Ratings have
been released, the Sun Bowl's television audience was "exposed" as
greater than TWICE the audience of the Indy-WACers. I must also "LOL"
at how nearly 18,000 more fans attended the Sun than sat in the Armed Forces. I
sure haven't seen much of Duckhunter lately. I think he's "duck"-ing
But speaking of numbers:2 million fans tuned in to watch the Cougars
beat Tulsa in the Armed Forces Bowl.2.4 million fans watched Utah
State lose to Ohio in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.4.1 million fans
watched Utah beat Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl.Yes, I am aware that
Utah had the best TV date and time for their bowl game. But the numbers are an
inarguable measure of how much "exposure" the teams got in their
respective bowl games.
This is a nice feel good story, but I would like to know the numbers associated
with the "increased exposure" that BYU is getting.How many
TV sets are tuning in to watch the teams play?
Love BYUTv and Dave McCann. Just ONE HUGE PROBLEM, No HD on Direct TV! Until
Direct TV offers BYUTv in HD it still looks poor and not first rate. Direct TV
you are missing out on a phenomenal opportunity.
@Pick 6As a BYU fan, I have been able to watch every game my team
plays and can record the ones I can't see live. How many games do the Utah fans
get to see( as if anybody would want to)? Not just Mormons watch BYU games any
more than just Catholics watch Notre Dame games. And, if Mormons in 151
countries are the only ones who watch BYU sports on tv and I'm one of them,
that's okay with me. But you've got to know that potential recruits are watching
BYU. Do you think they are watching Utah? You're probably lucky that they
Pick 6 Your comments have no support whatsoever. There are numerous other
people besides LDS who watch BYUtv. Your hate for BYU shines bright. I know of
many non LDS in California watch BYU sports. I imagine the Potato
Bowl had more viewers because of the time slots. Friday morning was not a good
time slot for a game, most people were working. Got to work on that in the
For those who are dissing BYUtv.........actually a lot of non mormons watch
it......nationwide and worldwide.
HCB63If you are with Dish or DirectTV, they don't relay the signal
in HD, only standard definition. That's why I've chosen to go with PC connection
as described earlier. If you're getting the HD signal, you would
know it...Comcast broadcast looks great. Your post leads me to
believe you are not one who really cares to know...only one who cares to
complain and tear down.
Totally agree with LonestarRunner.I was watching on Comcast they day they threw
the switch at the BYU Broadcasting Building and went HD. It was, and is
STUNNING.Maybe HCB63 needs to get rid of the rabbit ears or the SAT
dish and go with Comcast.
HCB63Don't know what channel you're watching, but HD BYUtv's picture
is every bit as good as what I see on ESPN HD. Try tuning into the HD channel
(channel 647 on Comcast) instead of the LD channel.
If memory serves Fowler was on the Mtn & wasn't IMO good.I still
recall the emotion in his voice during the closing moments of the 2008 Holy war.
Re: Honor Code @ 2:21pm: 'And just how many "die hard" BYU fans that
really live out there in this world???'I grew up in northern Idaho
(yes, one of the "congregated" areas you mentioned, although the bulk
of the LDS there are only in southeastern Idaho) and Washington State. Outside
of Utah, I have also lived in northern and southern California, Japan, and Hong
Kong. I know not everyone's experience is the same, but, the vast majority of
American LDS members I have met outside of Salt Lake County have been BYU fans.
And, yes, they are "die hard" fans. I remember a few years ago at
Priesthood Session in Orange County when Pres. Hinckley said they would be
ending the session a bit early for the BYU football game to follow shortly
thereafter. A sizable chunk of those in attendance remained for the game as
well. I seem to remember it was a rather late evening for all of us.
Apparently some of you either didn't read the article or chose to ignore this
sentence because it didn't fit your agenda:"BYU's home game
with No. 6 Baylor stands out. Baylor fans were impressed with BYUtv's broadcast
and openly praised its production and objectivity. 'It may have opened up doors
outside of sports, but the game drew them to it.'"Now..."fans" is a vague number...could mean 2, could mean 200...but
obviously there were some folks who normally wouldn't be watching BYUtv tuning
in that afternoon.I believe that's called "gaining greater
I think it's awesome that BYU can expose their team(s) on the BYU channel! Then
again, when you're playing patsy teams in the WAC and WCC eventually you lose
your fan base!! And just how many "die hard" BYU fans that really live
out there in this world??? Most congregate in Utah and Idaho. Outside of that
there's many Church members that cheer for other sports programs!
Anyone who thinks the BYU-TV efforts thus far are acceptable have not been
paying attention to good coverage on the national networks. To start, the
picture quality coming from the new HD facility is worse than analogue. I've
written the station mgmt on the issue several times and have heard nothing back
as to efforts or solutions to the problem. The picture quality is definitely
hindering viewership increases.Secondly, the on-field and courtside
"reporting" is pathetic, at most. These student reporters show their
obvious inexperience and make the broadcast reek of amateurism.As
far as McCann and other booth personnel, McCann himself is OK; but Fowler is
not--nor ever has been--a good color commentator. His favortism is glaring, and
lends strong insincerity to his commentary. Steve Cleveland is knowledgable, but
still has to get comfortable with his commenting.The broadcasts of
volleyball, baseball, soccer, etc are even worse in video quality and commenting
efforts. The broadcasts come off as something resembling a 1960's presentation.
In short, BYU-TV has a long, long way to go before it becomes a
competitive, legitimate and worthwhile sports viewing network.
McCann really does a great job! He brings professionalism and credibility to
BYUtv Sports. Sounds like a tough schedule he keeps, but I, for one, appreciate
it.I like True Blue, the pre-game football programming, and Legends.
BYUtv is establishing a great model.I watched the Longhorn Network
at a friends house, and they have a long way to go before they reach BYUtv's
I really enjoy McCann's style on TV. He's well spoken. He seems quite
objective (perhaps forced to because he knows fans from the other team are
watching). He calls it the way he sees it, both good and bad (if there's an
elephant in the room, he'll point it out). His commentary usually aligns with
the way I see it, which makes it more pleasant to listen to him as he
commentates. But what I like most about him is that he separates his feelings
from what comes out of his mouth. It's hard for me to stay out of a bad mood
listening to Greg Wrubell when the Cougars are losing. He let's his emotions
get the best of him, and the bad energy makes a bad thing (Cougars losing) feel
even worse. McCann doesn't do that. How he remains so calm and even tempered,
despite his schedule and apparent lack of sleep, is quite amazing. Impressive
I don't know what the hype is about, we had GREAT exposure! On Friday Dec 30th
at 10:00 am ESPN announced that the game was being broadcast nation wide!I just hope my boss never finds out I called in sick to watch the game.
A mere inconvenience. One suggestion, Mr.Holmoe need's to talk to
ESPN to schedule the games on Monday evening, that would make for a great family
home evening night for me and the kids!Cougar Nation around the
Bluecat82,Just sayin, all I have heard is how the "National
Exposure" would tenfold. After one season of Independence it is certain
that:1) Only Mormons would even tune into BYUtv2) Many of
those Mormons who watch BYUtv don't watch the sports on it.3) Of those
Mormons that watch the sports, many of them didn't enjoy this season as much in
football for WAC reasons.4) Nobody can watch an ESPN covered bowl game at
12 noon on Friday... during work. Or let alone those little kids couldn't watch
the BYU/Utah St. game at 8:00 PM.You know, Baylor does have a great
team in both football and basketball... maybe you're right, I'll go cheer for
@ Bluecat82"Because, of course, there are sooooooo many Mormons
that support Baylor".Mormons don't support Baylor, Baptists do!
Pick 6Eureka, UT"Giving greater exposure"..To
Mormons only._______________________________Because, of
course, there are sooooooo many Mormons that support Baylor...
Dave McCann is a good guy. After the BYU game in Prescott Valley AZ, he spent
some time talking to my two grandsons and me. He gave them encouragement for
their future endeavors. He was very down to earth and took lots of time with
us.As an out of state BYU fanatic who used to watch the ticker for
BYU scores, to have the games available now is a dream come true. We enjoy
McCann, Coach Cleve, Blaine and Robbie. Very professional. Keep us the great
"Giving greater exposure"..To Mormons only.
Ooops, meant True Blue, not Cougar Blue...
BYUtv is one of the best things ever for BYU sport fans! Dave,
Blaine, Coach Cleveland, Robbie...they all do a great job. Because
DirectTV refuses to broadcast BYUtv in high def, I connect my laptop to my large
HD TV through an HDMI connection and get a great HD picture (ethernet connection
works better than wireless), with the ability to watch games/programming
anytime. Love the Cougar Blue and Legends segments. Great job...I
couldn't be happier with what's delivered!
RE: Uncle RicoI was curious about the tv ratings... where did you
find the numbers?
Cool article. Not a huge fan of Dave or Blaine, but they do a respectable job
and it was great being able to read about Dave's schedule. BYUtv is certainly
opening doors and providing exposure. I love being able to watch most games out
here in Indiana, and especially love the DVR feature so I can watch late games
the next day. Go Cougs!
More people watched the Idaho Potato bowl than watched the Armed Forces Bowl.
How sad is that?
Dave and Blaine Fowler are great on BYUtv! BUT.... if ANYONE with BYUtv reads
these comments ... the young reporter Bobby B.? is VERY difficult to watch. He
resembles an intern high school reporter and portrays a very non-professional
image to all worldwide BYTtv viewers? He makes the Mntn. look superior. Is he
related to some BYU administrator?My wife cahnges the channel when he is
It is a great day to be a cougar and will be for years to come. We are looking
at something that will turn into very great things in the years ahead.Way to go Dave, coach Cleveland and Blaine. AND way to go Cougars, to bring
exciting sports to the rest of the world. This will bring us more exposure and
recruits than anyone can imagine.
These guys are doing a great job. Just go read the comments on the opponents
message boards after the games. They love BYUtv and are glad to be on tv. The
BYU admins wanted exposure and they are getting it.All of the
announcers are doing a great job.I love seeing EVERY game this year.
Sometimes I try to find some of the other local teams and they are nowhere to
be seen. Although with the level of play for one of the teams, it is probably
just as well. Kidding, kidding....Great time to be a Cougar!
Love Dave and Blaine way better than anything I saw on the Mountain West
Network.Dave is as Good as any Game Caller previous to him. Thanks
for the good work.
Dave and BYUtv are an awesome combination. He's got a ton of experience which
is really helping establish BYUtv's legitimacy. I'm one of those Baylor fans
that appreciated his even-handed calling of that nail-biter at the Marriott
Center. Hope Dave likes airplains because we don't want to lose him here in Las
Vegas; but he's got to keep rockin' on BYUtv.
Good job Harmon. It is great to pull up BYUTV on the computer and watch the
game. I was able to keep tabs on the BYU - LMU game before the work day was
done. The picture is not the best, but it is better than only radio coverage.
I do not subscribe to cable, but it sure is fun to watch. Love the world wide
coverage. Go Cougars.
Love Dave and his color guys coach Cleveland and Blaine Fowler. BYUtv is a much
better product with Dave as the tv voice of the Cougars.