Utah Jazz stay perfect at EnergySolutions with win over Hornets

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  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 5, 2012 11:07 p.m.

    It would take the real Houdini to get Jefferson to box out and play defense. Even being hot with 26 against the bucks his poor defense on Gooden (24 pts) totally canceled him.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 10:14 p.m.

    @Scalman, after last nights game i'm not so sure Burks couldn't slip in at the 1 spot, he looks good at penetrating and passing it off and seemed to be the best passer on the court.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 3, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    Hold your horses here guys,there`s a big,no, huge difference between miles and Jefferson,first off cj has been in this system for 6 years and still doesn`t get it.6`6" guys with his talent are a dime a dozen.Jefferson on the other hand has only been here 1 year,and a bad year at that.He`s young and talented,and with good coaching will come along,hire a Bill Walton type to work with him,but you just don`t give up on 6`10" guys with his skill set that easily

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Jan. 3, 2012 6:30 p.m.

    Good comments shaybo, although a faster lineup would put Hayward at point, Burks or CJ at the 2, Howard, Favors and Kanter. A passed ball travels faster than a fast point guard like Harris and Hayward would make that quick initial pass to the right teammate most of the time.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    Harris is the only choice at 1, so how about Hayward at the 2, Howard at 3, Favors at 4 and Kanter at 5 for a team that will start the game on an energetic and hustling pace instead of the plodding, no defense starting lineup that gets us down by 10 before the others get in. Lets establish that we came to play before the opposing team gets off to the fast start we've been seeing game after game.

    Hayward would play much better in that lineup than the slow down and feed it to Al lineup we've been starting.

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    I agree with CJ Miles, actually. People shouldnt rag on CJ. Regardless of your feelings on him, there are much bigger issues that need to be worked on. And yeah, CJ bricks shots, misses shots, takes dumb shots, whatever. But at least he TRIES to score. And he will give you points eventually. Better him then Bell jackin up stuff. Ideal starters for me would be Favors, Milsap, Howard, Hayward, Harris. With CJ playing more minutes at the 2 AND 3, and burks getting 15 a game at the 2. Bring Jefferson of the bench for Milsap, then Kanter in for Favors.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 4:05 p.m.

    @Jonphone, you don't use your amnesty clause on players that make 3 or 4 million, besides CJ is in the last year of his contract. I would use it on Jefferson and his 15+ million, then trade Milsap to Sacramento for an unhappy Cousins. I think Corbin would keep him under control and he would become a certain all-star. Then you have a 3 man rotation at the 4 and 5 spot of Cousins, Favors and Kanter. Throw in Burks, Hayward and Evans and 2 probable lottery picks in a great draft year and you have something to build on, with an extra 15-16 million + the 10.8 mil Memo made and the trade exception to bargain with they could probably get pretty much any player they need.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 3, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    A regular Joe could see that as long as Jefferson and Bell are on this team, there won't be many wins this season. Long term Jefferson will not improve his mental part of the game to improve his game.

    Bell is just washed up period.

    Favors, Millsap, Harris and CJ need to be the stars for this team to win. All 4 should be starting now.

  • pate123 willard, ut
    Jan. 3, 2012 3:28 p.m.

    @ Ricecakes; Josh Howard tries very hard though, defensively he is the best on this team, movement wise he is a slasher trying too create something. Jefferson is one dimensional:shoot,shoot,shoot; no defense period. There is a huge difference between the two!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 3, 2012 3:28 p.m.

    Funny stuff....How does CJ hurt a team that can't score? He can score and create his own shot. The Jazz need CJ worse than CJ needs the Jazz. If you want to knock him for his fouls thats OK. But at least he is near to ball guarding someone to foul them. Bell gets blown by and is completely out of the play. He couldn't foul if he wanted to.

    CJ is not the problem, Bell is the problem.

  • Bloodshy DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    A "W" is a "W," but don't get too excited. Margin of victory/loss tells far more about a team's future (historically) than their record does. We've been absolutely obliterated by 3 good teams away and we've squeaked by 2 bad teams at home. To me that indicates that we're likely to lose to good teams @ home and bad teams away if things don't change.

    Priority 1: Bench Bell, play Burks. Bell is a waste of minutes. He produces nothing on O & gets burned constantly on D. He needs to retire, or at least be perma-benched. Burks plays substantially better D and at least poses a threat on O, making it tougher for the opponent's D to double in the post. Additionally, the minutes will help Burks develop into our 2 of the future.

    Priority 2: Bench or trade Al. I like Al. I really do. He has a great attitude and seems like a great guy. But he doesn't play D & his O creates a massive black hole. If we don't trade him I'd recommend having him come off the bench to give scoring to the second unit. Let the first unit be mobile.

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    Jan. 3, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    Pay attention to what Harpering says. He knows what he is talking about. Everybody is singing a different tune today. Win all at home, lose all away, 500 ball and if in the East in the playoffs. Won't make it in the West.

    Cobin said: "We're going to use more guys than normal until we get this figured out in a regular rotation." For that statement I would call him in and tell him next time I heard it, he was fired. The old days of an 8/9 man rotation are gone (especially this year). Sloan is gone because he couldn't adapt to having over 6 players with a little help from a crybaby. Think back to the Florida road trip last year, the big pre-season and the come backs came from playing two teams, when the rotation started the losing started. Jefferson, Miles and Harris will not play consistently unless they get a splinter in their behind from time to time. Probably Favors also. Kanter is lost and needs a year in the NDBL.

    The Jazz can make the playoffs and a run but Corbin has to have a quick hook or a late nod ie Miles last night.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 1:12 p.m.

    @ rice cakes

    I love the addition of Josh Howard, and I think the Jazz should try and sign him a couple more years if he works out, but I agree that he shoots it a little too much. I think he is trying so hard to prove himself that he is a little quick on the trigger. I love his ability to score, get to the rim, and play defense though. I think over time, his quick trigger finger will loosen up and he will be a good asset going forward. Jefferson on the other hand, is a black hole and even worse, he plays no defense.

  • ricecakes Murray, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    I think we have 2 ball hogs on the team that look to shoot for themselves first and pass second. Al Jefferson and Josh Howard. Although I think they both are potentially good if they would give up the ball occasionally and play Jazz basketball. I agree about Harpring's announcing--my husband and I always mimic: "Gotta, gotta, gotta..." that's all he says. I think Ron Boone is a MUCH BETTER announcer and wish they would put him back. I know everybody likes Harpring as a former Jazzman and a nice guy, and I do too, but he really lacks as an announcer.

  • dbird OREM, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 12:37 p.m.

    Corbin thanks for playing your young players a little more. I would have liked to see Burks in the second half but at least you played him in the first half and he did well with helping the bench unit change a 5 point hole into a 5 point lead. It was fun to see Burks, Favors, Kanter, and Howard on the floor at the same time. I want to see this more to see these guys develop. Although it wasn't a pretty win it was a win overall and that is what the team needed. Big test tonight against Bucks with Jennings and other shooters on the Bucks team. Play Raja Bell around 15 mins or less and give the rest of the mins to Burks and Miles and see the young guys run up and down the court with some energy. GO JAZZ!!

  • HugMe Logan, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    Agree with fortydam's assessment as well.

    Watching the game, I was again, amazed at how Jefferson does not look to pass out of a double team. There were a couple of times we had some players wide-open for a three, but Jefferson chose to force up a shot instead. His shot went in, but it still was frustrating to watch.

    I am very excited about Josh Howard. It is looking like this was a good signing. Favors is going to be great. I am also excited about Kanter's game. He goes after the ball. Hope to see more of Burks on this home stand.

  • pate123 willard, ut
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    Every time this year the second unit has severely outplayed the starters; last night canter/millsap, favors, howard, burks,and watson. What is it going too take for the coaching staff too see this; the only good thing about cj and aj doing well is that their stock will rise a bit so they will trade them! Sit raja down, use him as a back up if that even.

  • Coryjc Ogden, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:42 a.m.

    I gotta agree with fortydam's assement, great win but I'm not sure if it's sustainable. Jefferson and CJ are going to hurt us in the long run, in my opinion. They are both such ball hogs that the entire offense grinds to a halt whenever they touch the ball because everyone else knows they are going to get their shot off at any cost. Listening to Harpring he seems to see the same thing, I heard him comment a couple of times on how Jefferson needs to pass more in certain situations. The defenses seem to have figured this out too, lots of double teams on AJ because they know he's gonna shoot no matter what. Both of their defensive efforts are questionable too. Lots of potential on this team, I just hope these two selfish players don't spoil what could be a suprisingly good team.
    Millsap, Hayward, and Favors should be the foundation and we should be finding the right combination of other players to work with these three. Just one mans opinion...

  • Jonphone Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:41 a.m.

    Love FortyDam's comments. Spot on.

    Also loved the short, almost non-existent, leash that CJ is on. Finally! His 2 bonehead fouls were benchable offenses. Who fouls 90 ft. from the basket at the buzzer? Answer: CJ.
    Who fouls on a transition 3? Answer: Cj.

    I know the Jazz still have their amnesty. I'm hoping they use it on either CJ or Raja.
    Interesting how CJ didn't get too many minutes in the first half and Raja didn't in the second. I liked seeing Burks come in where Raja or CJ normally would have.

    Looks like Corbin is closer to setting the line-up and rotation. Now if the Jazz could only get Bouler and Harping to give up their broadcasting careers so we don't have to hear another "Jazz Nation".

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:36 a.m.

    The first comment talked about Howard, Favors, Kanter, and Burks. This was in direct contrast to Jefferson, Harris, Watson, and Miles. There are obvious factions developing and the future is with the first group. The games so far have sent out mixed messages. The young players are obviously developing and putting pressure on the expendable veterans. Harris either shoots or passes to Jefferson reminiscent of Williams to Boozer. This is a five man game and once the rock goes to AJ, gravity takes it to the basket with no possibility that it will ever come back out. Millsap is the people's choice. He is a noteable exception to the obvious left-over Williams faction. I hope that he stays around. However, he sure is good trade bait.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:10 a.m.

    Good comments. I agree. It looks like Josh Howard is going to work out well for us. You've got to love his defensive effort and attitude. I expect him to slide into the starting 3 spot here shortly with Hayward moving to his natural position at the 2. However Burks could give Hayward some competition there. Good effort last night! Go Jazz!

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:05 a.m.

    Al Jefferson will still be the achilles heel of this team. Miles is a close second. AJ cannot and will not play defense, last night he was blessed with an aging caveman that didn't want to mix it up because he is old, and played the night before. CJ did the usual CJ thing, lets see if he can do it consistently. Millsap was a little undersized against that lineup, but he did a lot of little things that helped them stay in the game. The biggest unseen players of the night was the defensive work of Kanter,Favors, and Howard. These guys set hard screens on offense, and bodied up everyone that came inside. Heyward continues to hesitate and back his dribble out, he was doing so well last year attacking the hoop.

    I see a very bright future for Kanter, Favors, and Burks on this team. Howard could return to his all star status with the minutes Corbin is giving him. If this team plays the young guys, and gets into the lottery which is packed with impact players, we could have the nucleus of a very tough team. I still think the Jazz would be better off dealing AJ while he is in his prime, for a established two guard. I don't think Miles or Bell will ever be intimating enough to get respect from other teams. Eventually without an outside shot, the Jazz will face teams collapsing on Jefferson. His inability to pass or play defense will be evident against better teams.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Jan. 3, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Josh Howard has been surprisingly good on the defensive end of the floor. Hopefully his effort on defense will cause the rest of the team to have some effort on defense as well.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    Good effort defensively down the stretch. The Jazz were taking charges, had active hands, and played with intensity. They did not beat a great team, but the Hornets are decent, and any win is a good win when you have a young roster like the Jazz do. With a lot of home games coming up, the Jazz have a good opportunity to get some wins.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Jan. 3, 2012 7:41 a.m.

    This was a good win and just what was needed by this team even though it was another marginal growing pain type of a win. Nothing outstanding, but a win and good minutes for almost everyone. I am really impressed with a few players and look forward to their play as the season progresses. That is Howard, Favors, Kanter, and Burks. With Jefferson, Harris, Watson and Miles I don't see their ceilings rising, but hopefully their consistency is there 90% of the time. In another 2 to 3 weeks everyone but Evans and Tinsley should be NBA fit to play if the playing time is distributed like last night, and that will pay big dividends as the season progresses from there. Coach will then be able to go on a nightly basis with who's playing well each night and not suffer any downgrading. I have followed the Jazz since they moved here and have never seen this much quality depth. Good luck men.