Utah Jazz: Raja not scoring, but helping in other areas

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  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 4, 2012 10:17 p.m.

    Although Raja Bell does not have the athleticism of Alec Burks, but he is a steady player on a team of young developers.

    Many Jazz fans see Burks drive to the hoop, fly around the court, and think he is more valuable than Bell.

    The problem with Bell has some to do with bell, but also his teammates not understanding Bell's strengths. They are strengths the Jazz need. When playing inside out, the bigs (Jefferson) need to kick it out at the right time, or when double teamed.

    Bell is a great spot up three ball shooter. He is only taking three shots a game because he won't force it. Bell needs players to swing the ball and kick it back out.

    On the flip side, Burks does force it, and that's fine. He will make mistakes and make plays. He's learning and has a different skill set than Bell does.

    Bell is a solid defender and is good on a contender team with a superstar. Raja knows how to play a role as a role player. The Jazz have the problem as a young developing team, where the players don't know their role. Look at Millsap right now. We all know his ability, yet he is struggling because of the rock being pounded to the black hole in Jefferson.

    Harris has struggled to make assists as a point, but he will get there. I hope Raja finds his place on the Jazz team because the Jazz need a veteran leader. Millsap and Jefferson are the only other vets, and neither is a leader.

    Raja has struggled stat wise the last two years. His trade value is down. The Jazz aren't paying him huge bucks, but do need value for their money.

    Get it right players. Learn your roles. That said, I am patient with this team and don't expect a ton of wins or playoff success this year.

    The Jazz have a young team with a lot of talent. Full growth will take time.

  • chase SL Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    Raja is terrible, I shake my head when I see him in the game. Come on Corbin

  • write4u2 Altamonte Springs, FL
    Jan. 3, 2012 12:41 p.m.

    Ok, Jody, now you know how the fans feel about your stinking article about Bell. Many of us are not just people who watch games but have played and coached at various levels -- in other words, people who know the game. How about writing an apology in the comments section or on Twitter or somewhere it's not in the actual publication of the paper?

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    I think I saw Bell last night, selling popcorn and drinks up in the stands. As far as basketball he is the invisable man.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:45 p.m.

    Cut bell and trade big al.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:38 p.m.

    "But, ultimately, I don't think it really matters if I make or miss my three shots in a game." - Raja Bell

    This comment just goes to show that Raja is the new Mark Jackson when he was with the Jazz: Formerly good NBA vet who is now a locker room cancer.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Jan. 2, 2012 7:17 p.m.


    I used to have respect for your articles but I must admit with this lastest "masterpiece" you are really out of touch with reality. Get serious. If Larry was still around Bell would not be. He adds nothing. His defense is far from what it used to be. His offense stinks. Other teams have no need to guard him. If you want to regain any credibility you should admit that you were wrong.

  • write4u2 Altamonte Springs, FL
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    Ok, you denied my prior comment about Jody's article being a disservice to the Jazz and my wish that the Jazz had traded Bell, which I don't understand. However, Jazz fans, at least the one who watch the Jazz closely, have long since understood that keeping Bell is a huge detriment to the future development of the team. Not only that but he also is not helping the team to win any ball games either. Look up the stats, he is at the very bottom of SGs in the league; in other words, on paper, you won't find many worse SGs in the league and that includes bench players. So when Jody writes articles like this, it offends our intelligence.

  • ChuloDO Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    This article is merely an apologist's view (intended or not) for Bell and does not address the relative benefits of playing/starting bell relative to pretty much every other wing on the team. I would expect better from a journalist.

  • chiefbrady Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:25 p.m.

    Either Bell needs to start making some layups or put Alec Burks in. Please!

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:17 p.m.

    Is Raja and Tyrone truly seeing reality or what all of us see on a given night? Bust his behind on Defense? hee hee hee hee

  • ChuloDO Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    Is an article, Mr. Genessy, that is effectively an apology for Raja Bell's ineffective play on both O and D really the best you can do, when pretty much anyone other than Bell would likely be more productive?

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:07 p.m.

    It's too bad that the only veteran leader on the Jazz team can't play anymore. If Raja had played with a lot of the Jazz players before, and they succeeded, Raja would carry more weight.

    Millsap is a solid player, not sure about a leader though. Same for Jefferson. Everyone else is a young buck looking to develop under a young Head coach.

    The talent is there. The maturation process needs to go well before the team accepts too much losing. that tends to stick with players all throughout their careers once that happens. A veteran star that won't end up here could change that.

  • ChuloDO Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    Mr. Genessy, is writing an article that is effectively an apology for Raja Bell's ineffective play on both ends of the court really the best you can do? Does it not occur to you that pretty much anyone but Bell (i.e, Howard, Burks, probably CJ, Hayward (if not playing the 3), and Burks (although Corbin somehow thinks in his dream world that Bell's 30% FG, "experience", and slow defense would be superior)) would be better at starting that position? Did someone put you up to writing this, or did you choose to mitigate probably the worst coaching decision currently about this Jazz team (starting Bell) all by yourself?

  • write4u2 Altamonte Springs, FL
    Jan. 2, 2012 4:29 p.m.


    After reading this article, I have to say you know absolutely nothing about basketball. Raja was obviously washed up last year and the fact that the Jazz kept him on the team is a mysterious to all die-hard Jazz fans who are serious students of the game.

  • ricecakes Murray, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 3:19 p.m.

    What have we got to lose in playing Burks? We aren't going to win anything
    with Bell in there for sure. Give us fans
    something to root for!

  • PorcupineTree PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    This is really pathetic. A writer has to write such a stupid article to explain to all the angry fans why we have a shooting guard who can't shoot, and tell us that he is good on defense when opposing shooting guards are torching us.

    Raja was terrible last year. He promised he would be better this year. He isn't. He's still telling us he'll play better.

    HE WON'T. The fact that the jazz keep starting him can only mean that he has incriminating photos of the coaching staff doing who knows what, and he's holding them hostage.

    The fans are not and WILL NOT buy it!

  • PorcupineTree PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 3:02 p.m.

    It seems obvious to every jazz fan the Raja is stinking badly. Why can't the jazz coaches see it?

  • dbird OREM, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    PLAY ALEC BURKS!!! Raja had his chance to show what he has to give and it has proven it is not good enough. Alec Burks was a lottery pick for a reason and if you were going to use the 12 pick in the draft on a player that you were going to keep on the bench the bench then you should have traded the pick away when you have a chance. Now you are paying Alec Burks around 3 million a year and you are sitting him on the bench. You have to be kidding me!!! Put him in Corbin and give the kid a chance. What do you have to lose at this point. Ok maybe your team might become one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA. OH way your team is already one of the worst defensive teams in the league so might as well give Burks a shot and see what he can do to help. If you are going to keep him on the bench then include him in a trade and get a deal done. Use your head here and make the most logical decision and play Alec Burks!!!!

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 2:37 p.m.

    Back about the time when Raja Bell bolted for Pheonix to join the Suns he could still play. Those days are long gone, the Bell experiment has failed already. It's time to hand the "shooting guard" position over to Hayward and Burk's. I would buy a ticket package to watch those guys play. Go Jazz!

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 2, 2012 2:03 p.m.

    Matthews,Williams,Maynor and Brewer or Bell,Harris and "cj" you take your pick

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Jan. 2, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    "But, ultimately, I don't think it really matters if I make or miss my three shots in a game." - Raja Bell

    Uh ... boy is he wrong on that account. A 2 guard who can't hit his shots is an open invitation for the defense to pack themselves in near the paint and let him heave away his shots.


    ["Gee, I guess we don't need to guard him very closely."]

    I would respect Raja a whole lot more if he went to Corbin and said,

    "Coach, I'm not helping the team by being out there. I think you need to play me less and Burks more. Bring me in when he tires or if he's having trouble."

    Now that's someone who really cares about the team.

    Am I dreamin'?

    Probably. But wouldn't that make a real impression on the team, fans and Burks? Someone who puts the team's success before his own?

    I love you Raja but it's time to become a real coach and mentor to the young guys and show them how to bow out gracefully, when the time comes.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    I like Bell, but he's not good enough to be a starter any more and the Jazz are getting killed early on the road. The Jazz need to start Howard and move Hayward to the 2 where he belongs. The Jazz have a much better chance of outscoring their opponents with Howard than shutting them down with Bell.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:38 p.m.

    Ok, Corbin is going to narrow the playing time to 8-9 players so what does this mean? Knowing Corbin's current direction which shows an obvious love for veterans that are going nowhere it means that 8-9 guys will be Jefferson, Milsap, Howard, Bell, Harris, CJ, Watson, Favors and Hayward if he goes 9 deep. That means reduced time for Kanter and garbage time only for Burks and Evans.

    This is a sure fire way to take us straight to the NBA cellar in the most boring way possible. It's time to get rid of Corbin and anyone else in management who share this philosophy.

  • Woonsocket EAGLE MOUNTAIN, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    I think the ball boys did more to help the Jazz win than Bell did.

    Donât Believe me? Check the stat sheet:

    R. Bell: 1-4 of shooting totaling 3 points. 0 offensive rebounds. 1 defensive rebound. 2 assists. 1 steal. 1 foul, with a +/- of -7!! Starting for the Utah Jazzâ¦Seriously??

    There was another tidbit of information on the stat sheet that puzzled me further:

    âA. Burks: DNP â Coachâs Decisionâ Wowâ¦

    So, lemme get this straight. Alec Burks, our slashing and dashing #12 overall first round draft pick, the veritable future of our point/shooting guard position, sits on the bench during his rookie season whilst Raja the rusty Bell sporting a +/- of -7 gets the starting nod. Rightâ¦.

    Donât get me wrong. Iâm no Corbin hater. I believe he needs some time, under normal circumstances, to figure his team out. However, while many of the growing pains the Jazz are experiencing are necessary, the agony of watching Raja run glorified laps around the court âplaying NBA basketballâ, is not. Please, can anyone give me a good reason why Bell is still playing, let alone STARTING?

    If not, then Corbin, you got some splaininâ to do!

  • coach hines Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    Doesn't matter who he has to guard, as night in and night out some of the best in the nba are the players he has to guard. He is no longer a contributor on this level and his minutes are eating up some extremely valuable time for our younger guys. thanks for your efforts raja but we its well past time for you to move on. Corbin/O'conner: cut the cord!

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:20 a.m.

    Wow, the desnews spin machine is going full bore.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    Maybe Raja should have spent time practicing his shot instead of promoting the players during the lock out.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    Quit making excuses for Raja. We heard them all last season when "he couldn't find his shot..." and now we have to hear them again?

    This article talks about him getting Ginobli to guard...well Ginobli had his best night of the season. Case closed. Raja is stopping nobody.

    Raja can't score and the only place he can defend is in his dreams. Raja has had plenty of playing time to turn this around and is not a rookie so there really is no excuse. He had is day in the NBA but it is past. We are not winning or getting any closer to winning with him getting minutes.

    The real problems is that we have several bad veterans and nobody playing anywhere near allstar status and without that this franchise is nothing but roadkill and the record so far, in combination of the margin of victory, says I am right.

    Harris and Jefferson are pathetic on both ends of the court too.

    The only game we won was when Jefferson did not play. I think Jefferson is offensive and defensive cancer. He is worse than Boozer. Boozer was at least effective during the regular season offensively.

    Jefferson told us all about all the progress he made in Santa Barbara this past summer. I call baloney on that. Has anyone seen any results to validate he even went? Nothing he does on the court says he has done a thing.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    A very poor position from Jody. Good Grief! To brag about one defensive abilities when the tem is the worst defensive team in the NBA? Come on Jody...write something good.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:09 a.m.

    Jody I usually enjoy your stories, but come on Raja isn't playing defense worth anything this year. He's old, slow, and regardless of how smart he is, just is not effective anymore. We all realize you want to stay on good terms with the guys you cover to make life easier, but we're not blind, and understand bad basketball when we see it.
    I'd suggest reporting on the demise of the Jazz as we've come to know them. They are no longer a team who plays tough, is gritty, gives it everything they have, and respect the coach. KOC and G. Miller tossed those attributes aside when the forced Sloan out the door. How about some real reporting on how poor this team is and what a far cry they are from what the Jazz organization used to represent. And how about the truth about Sloan's leaving instead of just buying the company line?

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    Playing Bell is a waste of time, Corbin has got to see that Bell's contribution is minimal, getting Burks playing time will help him develop and he will open up the offense with his ability to drive, create and pass. Come on Ty be smart and play Burks. Bell being on the floor take playing time from Burks but also from Howard or CJ who are both more productive than Bell.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    So our starting scoring guard is only taking 3 shots per game and making 29% of those? Give us a break! There has got to be a change for fans to want to go to the games. We have got to get a shooting guard in there that can shoot and is not afraid to take an open shot. How else can we get some scoring from the shooting guard position and open up the paint for the bigs? No wonder fans are questioning coach Corbin right now.

  • jazzfan86 American Fork, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:23 a.m.

    I understand Raja has had to guard Arron Aflalo, Kobe Bryant, Manu Ginobli, and Andre Iguodala but all that considered the only teams allowing more points on defense than the Jazz are the Clippers and Bobcats. We're tied with Detroit for third worst defense in the NBA. If Bell were such a lock down defender, I don't think we'd be the third worst defense in the NBA. My point is that he isn't really making that big of a difference defensively for him to be taking up so many minutes. It kills us offensively for him to be in the game so might as well give other guys a chance on defense to improve and provide allow for the offense to run more smoothly.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    The Jazz have been stinking it up ever since we picked up Jefferson and Bell. Coincidence? I think not.