Preventive care: It's free, except when it's not

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  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Dec. 29, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    To "DeltaFoxtrot | 12:04 p.m." I never said taht they complain about their healthcare, but their system does kill or injure people. I also said 45%, not 50%, which was a guess, but since you want to make a big deal about it, how about this. According to the Frasier Institute's article "Average Canadian family pays more in taxes than it does for food, clothing, and shelter combined" Canadians have 41% of their income taken in income taxes, and only spend 34% of necessities. Seems like a great system doesn't it.

    You shouldn't have to worry about getting healthcare like often happens in Canada. Read teh following:

    From the Reuters "Soaring costs force Canada to reassess health model"

    From the Canadian Medical Association Journal "Death on the waiting list for cardiac surgery"

    From the CBC "Medical wait-list insurance to be available in B.C.". Why would you need waitlist insurance if it wasn't an issue?

    Also from CBC "Priority surgery wait times improve" where they now get 75% of the people in before things go bad. Just pray that you don't need a knee replacement while living in Canada.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Dec. 29, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    @Redshirt1701: I deal with Canadians as part of my job most every day. I have never heard a single one of them complain about their medical system. They're not paying 50% of their income in taxes either.

    Socialized medicine works for the other democratic nations of the world, it can work for America.

    The only reason we don't have it is these insurance companies are so entrenched in our government they won't allow it to happen because they would lose all their profits.

    You shouldn't have to declare bankruptcy and spend the rest of your life making payments to the hospital just because you got sick or needed surgery. It's evil, it's wrong, and we ALL know it.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Dec. 29, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    To "DeltaFoxtrot | 3:53 p.m." there is no way to provide healthcare "at no cost for everyone". Even in a single payer system, healthcare costs money, and that money comes from taxes. Answer this, would you trade 45% of your income to have government bureaucrats determine what healthcare the state can afford to give you, even in your times of greatest need?

    As other nations show, when the government controls the healthcare for its people, they have to ration who gets what care, and quite often the old and chronically ill are the ones who are given the least care.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    Insurance, the second greatest scam in human history.

    NATIONAL SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE. At no cost for EVERYONE is the only way to fix America's ever growing problem. If healthcare costs continue to skyrocket they way they have in the past 5 years we'll soon all be working just so we can afford to see a doctor.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    So what they are saying is that thanks to Obamacare doctors and insurance companies have no idea how to bill things out, and in the end will make the price of care increase because now most anything will be called preventive, and nobody knows what should be covered under preventive care.

  • KDave Moab, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    My 'free' colonoscopy cost me $200. However it was worth every penny. If you are over 50, get one.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    Screenings have nothing to do with prevention. They provide early detection at best. And, the doctor providing the screening knows how to increase his revenue stream by simply performing a procedure during the screening. This has been going on for years. Blame both the attorneys and HMO-like attitudes that many doctors have been trained to have, i.e. perform as many costly procedures as possible per visit. Intermountain calls them RVU's, a daily performance quota placed on every MD to help boost revenue.
    The only true preventive means are the daily decisions each individual makes about lifestyles.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:05 a.m.

    Health care shouldn't be an "industry", it should be about health.

    The Insurance Industry is one of the most immoral industries in this country today.