BYU, Tulsa feeling 'big time' at bowl game

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  • Portland Beavers SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 29, 2011 11:15 a.m.


    I'm sure he does ROOT for both teams, you sure got me on that one. I have never felt so stupid in my life. I thought Mesa was in New Mexico. I'm not going to play anymore you really, really , really hurt my feelings. And I really, really, want to apologize to OldPort for thinking you were a cougar fan and a sun devil fan living in New Mexico.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:54 p.m.


    "It is also possible that Old Port has TWO degrees -- one from each school."

    Whoever OldPort is, I can only imagine the relief of the collective Cougar Nation that he has finally arrived to defend their honor and "argue with ute trolls who comment on BYU boards that haven't got a clue."

    Here he come to save the day...

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 5:22 p.m.


    It is possible Old Port graduated from BYU and roots for team he lives by (ASU is in Phoenix which is adjacent to Mesa, in case you are geographically challenged.) Kind of like me and BYU and Utah (though in my case, I attended both).

    It is also possible that Old Port has TWO degrees -- one from each school.

    If you think, really, REALLY hard, you can figure things like that out for yourself. Good luck.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    BYU playing Tulsa in the Armed Forces Bowl is about as good of a match up as the Cougars could possibly get in the post-season this year.

    When you look at BYU's record this year, who they beat, who beat them, and by what margin, I think it's fair to say the Cougars are at the level of a mid to upper Conference USA team. Teams such as SMU, Central Florida, Marshall and yes, Tulsa.

    The Cougars and the Golden Hurricane had only one common opponent during the regular season, that being Central Florida. Interestingly, both teams beat UCF 24-17.

    The Armed Forces Bowl should give BYU fans an idea of what to expect in 2012.

    With the starting QB decided for next year, along with the fact that players such as Ross Apo will also be back for 2012, the hope is a win on Friday against a quality Tulsa team can build additional confidence in a Cougar team which next season will be playing at Utah, at Boise State, at Notre Dame, and at Georgia Tech, with home games against Washington State, Oregon State and Hawaii.


  • OldPortD.A.M. Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 28, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    You ute trolls are funny

    READ my posts. The only reason I post is because u trolls can't leave it alone.

    If you are better than BYU, then BE better. IF you have to continually tell us your better, you are not. If you were, you wouldn't waste time with a school you think is irrelevant.

    It is simple. IF you were superior, you wouldn't read BYU articles, nor comment on them.

    There is a reason I don't read, or comment on u articles.

    I don't care enough about u to waste my time.

    I already know we are better.

    I am not chasing windmills and trying to convince utah fans that they are not better, I only argue with ute trolls who comment on BYU boards that haven't got a clue.

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    Howard S.

    Let it rest and go enjoy one of those 'El Paso' tacos while you wait for Utah's next awe inspiring bowl game. I heard the view of Juarez from the Sun Bore... I mean Sun Bowl is breathtaking.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:19 p.m.


    I never hear Cougars mention their glorious victories over the parade of second tier WAC teams.

    But they do frequently reference Utah v. Colorado.

    I'm left of conclude that Utah v. Colorado was a more meaningful game to the Cougar Nation than any game on their schedule.

    As for Schadenfreude... guilty as charged. But I didn't bring it up. Mr. DSB did at 10:34 a.m.

    Now, while carping is a great word, a more appropriate word to consider might be "Grandiosity". It refers to an unrealistic sense of superiority.

    You know... the kind of unrealistic superiority that might cause one to believe that the Armed Forces Bowl is big time.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    Um, Howard, Alisa last played line backer in 2008. You being a Ute "fan" should know changing positions isn't a bad thing. You know, Kruger, Christopher, Blechen etc.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    Howard S.

    You should back off of Old Port, I think he's going to blow a blood vessel.

  • Portland Beavers SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    @Old Port

    Which is it BYU or ASU that are mine.

    And I guess the BCS is going to fold, Utah and your sun devils will always have the chance to play in the Rose Bowl (PAC-12 vs Big-10).

    And whimpering because we won 2 BCS games "WHAT"

    And by the way those two teams that went to the BCS games were undeafeted teams

  • OldPortD.A.M. Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    Howard S

    So your retort is that I am focusing on u v. Colorado?

    ohhhhhhh, burn. Help I'm on fire. (u still lost that game, and u did not go to the Rose Bowl. Please tell me again how it feels to be in a BIG Game.)

    Seriously, you bring up Schadenfreude? Which is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.

    You (and every other ute troll) are on nearly every single BYU article taking great pleasure in BYU's misfortunes. You take every opportunity to belittle BYU, it's players, coaches and teams.

    What was that word again... carping? - persistent petty and unjustified criticism; faultfinding.

    Please regal us again about your two BCS wins...

    And for the record, I have never posted on a u article, ever.

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    Alisa being out worries me. He's a big reason BYU was able to turn thier season around. BYU struggled early this year because they had no running game. Having Nelson and Alisa running well kept the defenses honest. Nelson can still run, but Alisa would limit the amount of punishment Nelson's might take if he has to do it alone. I hope the other backs step up.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:14 a.m.


    I love it that Utah v. Colorado was the most meaningful game of the season for for the collective Cougar Nation.

    That says all you need to know about the state of the BYU football program.

    Now... what was that word again... schadenfreude?

  • OldPortD.A.M. Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    Howard S

    That's funny because the u has been to a "Big time" (oohh ahhh) BCS bowl and yet they still got beat at home by lowly Colorado when a chance to play for a conference championship and then a trip to the Rose Bowl was on the line. Talk about not understanding...

    So I guess it is understandable that BYU makes the most of whatever is dealt to them, while u trolls bash because they are unhappy with their teams lack of grit or focus.

    u understood the meaning of BIG TIME, but choked none-the-less.

    Just one more question, when the BCS folds (and it will) and the top tier bowl games are called something else, what are you going to say then? You belittle BYU's top tier games because they aren't "BCS" games, but you're opening up yourself to a whole lot of ridicule when the BCS goes away leaving you whimpering, "but we won two BCS games..."

    Oh yeah, you also lost to my Sun Devils at home.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    Hey Ken, Hedgie,and Howard S.

    Your condition is called Schadenfreude. You might want to look it up and contact a psychiatrist.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    Big Time?

    Well, having never been invited to a BCS bowl I guess it's understandable that the Cougs don't really understand the meaning of BIG TIME.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    re: hedgehog
    "I'd be a bit worried about your "deep" RB's when your starter (alisa) played at the LB position only a few weeks ago."

    Open mouth, insert foot. Please do a little research and you'll find it's been a few years, not a few weeks since he played LB.

    However, without Alisa, Quezada will really need to step it up. We know we can count on Kariya in short yardage situations up the middle and we know we can count on Luigi on the edges, but we need someone who can be the every down back that Alisa had become. Quezada has struggled at times and had glimpses of brilliance. This would be a great game for him to make a statement.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:29 a.m.


    1:07 a.m. .....Can we say Obsession?

    1-Mispelling "delusion"
    2-Taking a shot at BYU
    3-Still acting as if the BCS has any relevance.

    Oh yea, you are a Ute alright.
    An insecure, obsessed Ute, always looking over your shoulder
    at all things concerning BYU.

    Don't you have an NAIA Basketball program to tend to?


  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:25 a.m.

    "good thing we are 4 deep at RB"


    I'd be a bit worried about your "deep" RB's when your starter (alisa) played at the LB position only a few weeks ago.

    Dec. 28, 2011 6:41 a.m.

    Wow, If Alisa, can't go, thats a bit of a blow, good thing we are 4 deep at RB. I think we are just about as antsy as the players! Can't wait for game day. GO COUGS! Show the country who we really are!

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:07 a.m.

    Of course they are. It's called dillusion.

    Preseason 2012 BCS team anyone?