Utah Utes, Weber State basketball: Wildcats send Utes home in style

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  • weberwildcat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    Weber wins the OQUIRRH BUCKET!

    Weber 3-1 beat usu wins tie
    usu 3-1
    byu 2-1
    utah 0-2

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    Although Utah will not be playing Weber any time soon, they will be playing in Ogden as they have a home and home contract with Mt. Ogden Junior High...so they will be in Ogden...

    Bye and Bye...Hyrum Junior High in the Logan area is now negotating a home and home with Utah...so even though they will not be playing Utah State, they will be seen in the Logan Valley...

    Yet, Utah is setting themselves up for failure with such a tough schedule.

  • I am Cosmo SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    @Jeff Is



    Utah and Colorado were on the expansion list of then the PAC-8 and the PAC-10, I'm sure back before you were even born. And it's not just because of athletics, Utah and Colorado are excellent research institutions. You would be suprised the kind of money that has come in to the U for other departments. The two schools were on the list from the very start.


    For what Chris Hill has done for not only the U but the entire state of Utah that statement shows a whole lot of respect. Do you still get payed for the job you do?


    You're just like the duck man, something must have happened to you to be so mean when it comes to the U. People can tell when your just having fun and the hatred that you show.


    I agree with you, I think all things Utah should be suspended. Utah does something for the best interest of the school and now we are afraid of everyone else in the state. People just don't understand. What a pitty it could be so fun, the hatred is sickening.

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    Dec. 24, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    Alright, folks. This is how you make the schedule with the 4 main schools in Utah. Weber St, Utah St., Utah, and BYU. When the Jazz have that eastern road swing in December you have a 2 day round robin tournament at the ESA. It is billed as a Christmas Charity Tournament. You find out the morning of the first games who you play. There are 4 lottery balls and the first two drawn out of the basket play the first game that evening. The next two drawn play in the second game. Winners play winners the next night and the loosers play each other. The benefits are. Charity event. Guaranteed sell out. A food donation and a ticket are required to get in. No home court advantage for anyone. Don't know the schedule so anticipation would be sky high. This little game of my house is bigger than your house is getting way over blown. Come on ESAa and the Jazz organization, make this happen.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 24, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    Is Chris Hill still drawing a pay check from the UofU coffers?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    The article was about Weber St. and Utah of the PAC-12, not BYU. You're a bit defensive, but it's interesting that the Cougars are always on your mind. BYU fans are impressed.

    Dec. 24, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    I don't blame Utah for not wanting to play any of the in-state rivals. Those are guaranteed losses every year, so why mess with them? bwahahaha

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Dec. 24, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    utah will be fine, give Coach Kry some time to put his program in place and they will do well in the PAC 10.2. Sorry to read they do not want to schedule games with the other public universities that are supported by the state. Hope the state congress makes funding from the state conditional upon scheduling in-state rivals. Don't schedule USU in football, lose 10% of your state funds. Don't schedule USU of WSU in basketball, lose another 10% per school in funding. Games should be a home & home format. What the u doesn't want in state funds, send it to WSU and USU. As matter of fact, the u should schedule Dixie and SUU in basketball...same rules apply.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:20 p.m.

    If the Utes ever want to be respected again in their home state they're going to have to man up and play BYU, Utah State, and Weber State home-and-home just like they used or all of their boasting about being in a superior conference will be meaningless.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    Merry Christmas

  • kokua KAYSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:19 p.m.

    I think it is blatantly obvious that Utah completely lucked out when they were asked to join the PAC 12 and become part of there mighty southern conference.

    The Utes basketball program is just plain horrible. It will be a huge up hill battle to sell Utah's program when they are routed by all the in state schools. It appears the shine has been knocked off the PAC 12 penny.

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    C'mon Larry ... man up! I was starting to become a fan due to the excellent interview that you gave to the D-News. But refusing to schedule Weber and Utah State shows a definite lack of class. Do what's best for basketball in the State. Your struggling little band needs all the goodwill and karma that it can get.

  • Morton ,
    Dec. 23, 2011 4:49 p.m.

    Yeah, I remember USA....lost to asu ....who got drilled by Boise State...

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    The Deseret News would be smart to just suspend all comments on Ute Basketball for three years. Come back in three years and we can begin honest evaluations of the program. The comments now are the same and mostly from the same people on every Ute b-ball article. It is getting rather boring. Ute fans get the picture and it isn't pretty.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 1:24 p.m.


    aha ur correct I did not take the AP into account, I'm big enough to say I stand corrected. carry on.

  • Arizona1 Tucson, AZ
    Dec. 23, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    I don't care to see the Utes win any more than any other non-Ute fan, but it would be nice if we remembered civility even though we can hide our identities in the comments section. Remember that the Utes players are young men that go out and give it their best shot. There is no reason to disrespect their effort just because they may be from a rival school.

    On another note, I hope they continue playing instate games. I think it makes for more entertaining games.

  • bookonwomen Beverly Hills, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    "Okay you got Stanford and Oregon yes, HUH? USC ranked in the top 6???"

    The AP Top 25 #1 LSU, #2 Bama #3 Ok St. #4 Stan, #5 USC #6 Oregon

    Other polls didn't rank USC b/c of post season ban. The AP ranks the best 25 regardless.

    USC won at Oregon and finished with a 10-2 record, so why wouldn't they be up there? Many sports national media thought USC was playing as good as anybody in the country.

  • TandJ LaVerkin, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    It looks like tattoos better equip Wildcat athletes than Ute athletes. Good luck, tattoo U with the rest of your schedule. Maybe the other teams will have less tattoos, or those tattoos will be less talented than Ute tattoos, but somehow I rather doubt it.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:25 p.m.


    "University of Utah--who (bet the house on this) will surely "return" to the Final Four once more, before any other college team in the state of Utah ever makes it's "first trip," to that hallowed place. Book it."

    Bold talk for a program that is currently ranked 325th out of 345 D1 programs.

    Maybe U should first try finishing with a winning record for a change - something that has seldom happened on the hill since sweaterman left.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:23 p.m.


    Weber State's three losses all came on the road. They were tied with St. Mary's until 7 minutes left in the game--the score wasn't indicative of the game. I wouldn't just wave them off because they play tough competition on the road, unlike some teams. It will be interesting to see how BYU plays Gonzaga or St. Marys on the road.

    BYU played two true road games (U of U and USU), the rest neutral site games. USU is a tough place to play, but Denver (also a good team) beat them in Logan this year by 13, so I wouldn't hang up the WCC championship banner just yet. I think BYU will drop 3-4 conference games and have to win the tournament to get to the Tourney--which they have a good shot. Welcome to life in a "small" conference.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:04 p.m.


    Tom in CA didn't mention the WAC at all. You did.

    He said "inferior conferences" but I didn't read "WAC" anywhere but your quote criticizing him for saying "WAC". So you simply made something up and then criticized him for something you made up. That is classic.


  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:56 a.m.


    Don't kid yourself - nobody is jealous of conference bottom dwellers, regardless a which conference they paper the floor of.

  • Mortoon Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    I didn't think that the utes would be able to compete in the pac but this is crazy! They can't compete anywhere in D1!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:53 a.m.


    lol, wow really splitting hairs aren't ya? And now "book it" is the new "mark it down". sweet.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:49 a.m.


    Okay you got Stanford and Oregon yes, HUH? USC ranked in the top 6??? And in what poll would this be? You have some secret poll none of us know about? Good job, you have two strong teams in the top 10, we all agree on that, after that EVERY other team is mediocre to pathetic. No way to spin it. Fact.

  • SSmith Washington, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    The quotes in this article make it sound like Krysco is afraid to play the Wildcats. If that is the case he is the wrong coach to build the program. A winner is not afraid of competition and in fact seeks it. That is what makes a winner better.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    Tough loss to a tough time, in tough times. Things will get better. What's so telling about this post, is the number of people who seem incredibly jealous that the Utes are in the Pac 12 (it's not called the PAC folks, even for short--PAC would imply something like "Pacific Athletic Conference.")-It simply oozes off of this thread. Well, they are there folks. Your team isn't and it hurts. Obviously much more than this little blip on the basketball history of the University of Utah--who (bet the house on this) will surely "return" to the Final Four once more, before any other college team in the state of Utah ever makes it's "first trip," to that hallowed place. Book it.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    The pac has fallen on hard times beginning with their inability to get the Big 12 teams to shift conferences. Scott panicked and grabbed anything available, which turned out to be utah and colorado. Both poor choices from a sports and PR standpoint. Now the once and former Conference of champions is so watered down that they aren't reaspectable...

    Evidence the embarrassing beatdown of asu by Boise State last night and the drubbing of utah by Weber State. Scott and his conference have a contract for now but with the product they have don't expect it to be renewed! EMBARRASSING!!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:30 a.m.


    haha, yep after the bowl dust settles, try spinning the "Pac dominance theory" for all of us, please. Love hearing these fantasy tales of how the Pac has beaten every top 5 team by 50 points week in and week out. sorry your conference isn't living up to all the hype. Better luck next year I guess.

  • bookonwomen Beverly Hills, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    @ExecutorIoh "Pac-12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country, in both football"

    Pac-12 football has 3 teams ranked in the top 6 (USC, Oregon, Stan.) Get a Clue!

    I like Weber St., but the fact is when they played great teams this year, they got blown out(BYU by 28, Cal by 20, St. Marys by 17.)

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:28 a.m.


    #31 BYU (top 10%) has won nearly 80% of its games during the Dave Rose era
    #325 Utah (bottom 10%) has won less than 50% of its games during the same period

    Spin it however makes you feel better about yourself, but bottom line, BYU is now a far superior basketball program compared to Utah, regardless of conference affiliation.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:21 a.m.


    What a sorry excuse for a once decent basketball program to hide behind the skirts of the so called "conference of champions".

    The truth is, the Utes are scared to death to play any of the other in-state teams.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    ExecutorIoh said:

    "I think you can make the argument that the Pac-12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country, in both football and basketball. Outside of Oregon and Stanford (who are both not favored in their bowl games) the rest of the conference couldn't hold their own in the WAC. It is clear that the MWC is far better than the Pac-? in basketball and has been for years. If you take the makeup off, the Pac-12 is really the ugly step-sister of all the athletic conferences."

    Interesting that you left the WCC out, which is currently ranked lower than the Pac 12 in basketball.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    4601 said:

    "Tsk, tsk, tsk. The Conference of Champions indeed."

    Thank you for carrying on the tradition of BYU fans. Complain about something you don't have.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    Tom in CA said:

    "utah has gotten so good, they probably will scratch BYU off their schedule. Why play a WCC team when you're in the mighty pac-10.2

    Last night the conference of champs got royally whipped in both football and basketball by inferior conferences. Sad."

    Really? Last night I watched Boise St. play ASU. What game did you watch?
    I don't recall a game between the WAC and Pac 12.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    Of course their scheduling "philosphy" is going to change. They want to schedule teams they can beat! Anybody got the number for Multi-directional State College of the Nuns?

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    I think you can make the argument that the Pac-12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country, in both football and basketball. Outside of Oregon and Stanford (who are both not favored in their bowl games) the rest of the conference couldn't hold their own in the WAC. It is clear that the MWC is far better than the Pac-? in basketball and has been for years. If you take the makeup off, the Pac-12 is really the ugly step-sister of all the athletic conferences.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    Krystkoiak said "I don't care where I'm at, I'm not a big fan of playing Weber," Yeah and I can only imagine why. Only 1/3 of the way through your first season and you are chickening out of in-state schools.

    The U turns chicken and tries to hide under the banner of the PAC 10 + 2 The U is in the "mighty" PAC 10 + 2 yet they are afraid to play Weber. I thought the U mascot was a red tailed hawk. Now I'm finding out it really is a red chicken like my grandma used to have - on the positive side such chickens do lay beautiful, delicious tasting brown eggs.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    Ev Vogue said it best

    "Back to life, Back to reality" "Back from fantasy yeah" Resurgent Utes,ahhahahahaha.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    The whole reason that the u is not going to play the likes of Weber State, USU, and try to scratch off BYU is that they do not want people to say that they are the worst team in the State. By not playing any of those teams then you can debate it back and forth, but if you play them and then lose to all of them, there is no doubt that you are the worst and then there goes all the recruiting not only in the State, but everywhere else that the other schools are recruiting from also.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    Why not schedule Weber St.? In the preseason one does not schedule teams from superior conferences.

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:49 a.m.

    So much for the "surging" Utes. For this Utah team, 3 wins against teams from the bottom of the barrel IS something to be proud of. At least they can't lay claim to the worst D-1 team in America. Maybe next year.

    Enjoy your three wins this year Utah.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    The rundown Utes are the laughing stock of the state; they'd have a tough time beating the other team on the hill -- East HS.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk. The Conference of Champions indeed.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    have the red rocks started their season yet?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    No surprise here.

    Pac chumpions indeed.

    ASU gets destroyed in the Vegas bowl. What a joke of a conference.

  • Th Tooele, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 8:08 a.m.

    Whats laughable is that fans with little knowledge of things that have transpired at Utah are still bagging on them. Have it your way, but remember Utah is playing a really bad hand and its not like they can bluff their way to wins.

    As for Utah needing to recruit east coast players because they apparently can't recruit locally now. If I remember right, Jordan Loveridge, the states best player recruited by every in state team and a handful of PAC 12 teams chose the Utes. He's a stud athlete that will be a 4-year starter in hoops.

    As for other recruits, Josh Hearlihy, a 6-7 all purpose player out of SoCal chose Utah over Stanford, USC, SDSU, and other PAC 12 schools. Larry Krytkowiak will have this ship turned around, just not this year. Basketball unlike football doesn't take a decade to turn around. Krystko seems to be a great coach to me although you'd never know this year playing with unrecruited JuCo guys who don't belong in D1 basketball.

    Yeah, I'd like to see Utah play Weber and Utah State every year, but please don't get so excited about beating the worst UofU basketball team in school history when you've won 1 in the last 10, now 2 in a 11. If I remember right, when Utah was just bad which is an improvement over this team, you couldn't beat Utah. USU couldn't beat Utah at the HC. I hope they start playing again, but Utah's schedule is a little more unique now as they can only schedule no more than 8 out of conference teams. With pre-season tournaments always in the mix it doesn't leave many openings on the schedule. Has nothing to do with being scared of Weber or Logan. Go Ute's

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    utah has gotten so good, they probably will scratch BYU off their schedule. Why play a WCC team when you're in the mighty pac-10.2

    Last night the conference of champs got royally whipped in both football and basketball by inferior conferences. Sad.

  • whit Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 7:08 a.m.

    What a crock. I thought all these 'power' conferences scheduled teams from the Big Sky and Big West and WCC in order to get ready for their conference schedules?

    What could be better than doing that with in-state teams?
    Of course,if it was a gimme win then it would be easier to schedule them, right?

    You don't get better by scheduling gimme wins left and right, you have to schedule teams that will challenge you. Utah will not be the worst team in Utah or most of the country forever and Coach K2 needs to realize that.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 6:56 a.m.

    @Lifelong Republican (first mistake)

    I know what you are getting at: Utah and the mighty PAC-12. However, I wouldn't be knocking the Big Sky. The WCC was a one-bid conference last year and will be again this year unless Gonzaga loses in the tournament. BYU's close losss to Baylor was still a loss. Oregon at the Delta Center--meh. You're in the same boat now since BYU left the MWC--need to win the conference tournament or play in the NIT or other tournament.

    Things aren't good for Utah right now: clearly. At least they stepped up their game. BYU turtled when they could have joined the Big 12 or Big East and hid behind a TV deal that no other team belonging to a conference would have. Basically, they like playing down in basketball and cherry-picking their schedule in football. Don't pretend it is better.

    Good luck to all the instate teams the rest of the way, and GO WILDCATS!

  • B C Park City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 6:49 a.m.

    conference of pansies

    It's laughable that the Utes think they're too good to play Utah State or Weber State anymore.

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 23, 2011 6:32 a.m.

    Why not keep putting WSU on the schedule? What philosophy could Utah have not to schedule local teams that they have played for years, decades? With zero success in the pac 12, have the utes suddenly become to good for everybody in Utah?

    Utah is acting like the little brother who accidently got rich and suddenly is to good for his own family. I would really like Utah to explain this "philosophy" why Weber can't be scheduled anymore or USU for that matter too.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 6:28 a.m.

    Weber is a really good team and they have the best player in the State.

    Utah should not be embarrassed about losing to Weber, but they should be embarrassed about their gutless efforts and lack of teamwork. This year's team would have issues in Division III.

    Utes kick it in gear and show that you belong in the PAC-12!

  • Bo Diddley Tech SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:22 a.m.

    Great game Utes! Awesome to be in the Conference of Champions, you're representing!!

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:00 a.m.

    This does not seem possible. Utah is in the PAC 12 now. They are too big and mighty to loose to anyone. I wonder how many Utes attended the game? It certainly would be foolish for any local talent to select Utah. They will be recruiting only eastern "athletes" to play from now on.

  • VegasBart N. Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 23, 2011 4:41 a.m.

    Losing is one thing, but not playing Weber State when you have other cupcakes on your schedule year in and year out is another. What's the problem here, Utah?

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    Congrats on that 3-0 lead utes!

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 11:39 p.m.


    Put up Big Sky banners throughout the city! Every bit of fan gear MUST have the Big Sky logo on it! Go Big Sky. Conference of real Champions!

    Hilarious to see how the once decent utes have fallen into the abyss. It is going to take YEARS for them to climb out of this mess.

    Can you say LAST place?