Duck, if those characteristics define a fanbase as "classless," I
don't think there is a single "classy" fanbase in the world. You're
kidding yourself if you think Cougar Nation is entirely separate from that. I
know several that fit that description. Everywhere you go, there are people who
take things too far.
@goredCommenting on an article does not make one
"classless". Even trading putdowns isn't necessarily
"classless". Hating people simply because of their religion, using
vulgarity and mocking their religion, those are the things that make people
"classless". Engaging in drunken and profane behavior such as a woman
drunkenly stripping in front of children and families is classless. Standing on
your seat, flipping off the KSL helicopter and screaming "BLANKING
MORMONS" every time the helicopter flies over res is "classless"
behavior. Posting negative comments on an articles about how a minority player
from out of state came to BYU, was converted, and is now converting his entire
family, is "classless".I'm not saying mocking the other
team when they stink, like utah's basketball team does currently, is dignified
behavior by any means. Nor am I saying that all of the posts from BYU fans are
always kind, considerate, or even classy. But there really isn't much of a
comparison to be made as to which fanbase has the truly "classless"
segment to it.
On the article on BYU, cougfanintx is making fun of the trolls commenting on the
BYU article. Yet he is always one of the first to comment on anything relating
to Utah.I think Max Hall had the teams' fans mixed up when he made
his infamous "classless fans" accusations.
@jarka-rusOne year dude, challenge to you. Take the last ten years
and find and figure out who has had the best offence. It's going to be Utah,
much better teams. No comparison when it comes to defence. And that team that
was ranked just a little better than podunky high beat your team by 44 pts. I'm
almost positive that our offence scored more than one touchdown.
jokes-on-u, when you hear the name and see the letters, "U-T-A-H",
don't fear the name, fear the team. Get use to it, you are going to be hearing
it more often, more than your team...Go UTES! =)
jokes-r-us, keepin em comin. Good OC's love Utah for a chance to coach NFL
talent without censorship year-in and year-out. Something I wish you could
witness sometime, it's really quite special.
If you were a good OC, why in the world would you wanna coach at the U?Just so you can score a TD a game and be ranked a little better than podunky
Chow is smart, why would anyone stick around to coach the #110 ranked offense in
the nation and a QB he could obviously tell wouldn't get the job done ever.
@duckhunterMinor miracle we do agree on some things. BYU has had
some great coaches not only in football and basketball. Gary Pullins your old
baseball coach did as good a job as could be done while he was there, I'll never
understand why he was forced out for Vance. I would also love to have Gordie
Eakin for our softball coach, with him being an old Ex-Ute and the competition
in the PAC-12 in softball he would be great to have. With that I
hope that we can hold onto our coaches especially football and basketball
better. These new basketball coaches I know personally. They should have been
given the choice before they hired Boylen. These guys will turn things around,
I really hope Hill gives them time. We really have had some fun with this you
really know your stuff, but I really, really know my stuff when it comes to utah
athletics.Merry Christmas, and I will see you and all the other y
trolls on the flip side.
Not Crowton. Please.
Look at what Brandon Doman has done with Riley Nelson. The guy is a genius -
hire him, please.
@the beavActually BYU's history is that its coaches are very loyal
and very long term. It is a unique situation with the church affiliation. It is
pretty well known that the coaches of many of the sports, head coaches and
assitants, take less pay and treat it as a destination which I am sure has a lot
to do with most of them being church memebers. It is just unique. Definately not
"stepping stone". Not that being a "stepping
stone" program is a bad thing. utah has the right spin on that when they
say it simply means they hire good coaches that are desired by bigger schools.
If that is true it means they are being successful. It will be interesting to
see if being in the pac12 will change that to any extent. That is definately one
benefit of being in that conference, it does make it more of a destination and
the added revenue should help to keep coaches pay up. We'll see if that happens
but logic would say it should.
Utah did not fire Ludwig. Ludwig accepted a lateral position to work on
Snyder's staff at the Big XII's Kansas State. However, weeks after accepting
the KSU job, Ludwig accepted ANOTHER lateral position, this time with Tedford's
Pac-10 California. Ludwig struggled at Cal, then took the O.C. spot at SDSU. I
don't know if he was fired at Cal, or if he left on his own accord.I
hope Kyle doesn't look internally to replace Chow. Neither Roderick nor Shram
@DuckyYour welcome, the obsession is mutual.@redfeatherAnybody that understands the game knows that both Utah
and BYU are stepping stones to something better.@And good old Sports
AuthorityRegardless of your spin, they all left Utah for something
better. So have all the BYU coaches, even the fired ones.
CougFan, if we were to hire a guy with BYU ties, my hope would be Brian Billick.
It's doubtful he'd get back into coaching with how well he seems to like the
broadcasting business, but I think he would be a great fit with his success on
similar teams: ball-control offense with a great defense. BYU was definitely a
low point for Crowton and he's a much better coordinator than how he coached
down there, so I wouldn't be unwilling to have him, just not a favorite.
Coach Whit knows what he's doing, he's a no nonsense guy. I look forward to
seeing where the program goes.
timid robin"Utah is a stepping stone to bigger and better
things"Unfortunately for you, you don't see the irony in your
Brave Sir RobinRegardless of your spin, they all left Utah for
@TroyTownNice try, but let's take a closer look at your examples,
shall we?Chow - Took a promotion to go to Hawaii...key word there
being "promotion".Anderson - Took a promotion to go to USU...Key
word there being "promotion".Ludwig - Didn't outgrow Utah. He
got fired. Not quite the same thing.So it looks like all the
coordinators who leave Utah either (a) take a promotion, or (b) left because
they got fired.Now contrast that with all the BYU coaches who make
lateral moves to other schools. Seems pretty clear that Utah is a stepping
stone to bigger and better things. Also seems pretty clear that people will
leave Provo for just about any other job out there.
@the beav"Thanks for clearing it up where Leach is going to
coach, since Riley did not say one thing about it in the article other then he
was one of the new PAC-12 coaches."Actually that is what the
article said and it has now been edited after I pointed it out in my post.Thanks once again with your obsession with me.LOL!
chicagobornYeah it's funny how people associated with [Utah] are so
willingly to leave that program... It seems that they outgrow the football
program at [Utah] and want something better.--see Chow(Hawaii),
Anderson(Utah State), and Ludwig(SDSU)
Good luck to Chow. I hope that the offense is more open then just the pro style.
With the pro style offense it seems to me that you have to have more talent to
be good. With the spred u can get away with less talent. We are never going to
get better athlets than USC, UofO or a lot of other pac 12 teams.
@CougFaninTXYeah it's funny how people associated with BYU are so
willingly to leave that program for Utah. It seems that they outgrow the
football program at BYU and want something better.
Crowton doesn't run the West Coast Offense. Though I'm not totally ruling him
out, I don't think that it's likely.
Good luck coach Chow it's very well deserved and we wish you the best. I'm sure
he will do great things at Hawaii.As far as his replacement goes,
I'm sure Whit will do a good job in finding a good coach. He has had to deal
with replacing coordinators a number of times now and I'm confident he will make
a good choice.I still love to see how many byu fans post on Utah
articles. It speaks volumes to how satisfied you are with your own program.
I'm not asking for debate it just is what it is.Go Utes and good
luck in the Sun Bowl
I wouldn't be surprised if Whit picks someone with true blue experience. On the
hill, U seem to really like folks who have ties to BYU to fill your coaching
vacancies.I'm betting on Crowton.
One name that wasn't mentioned, Mike McKoy he's going to come home.
@duckhunterWOW, first up on a Utah article again. Thanks for
clearing it up where Leach is going to coach, since Riley did not say one thing
about it in the article other then he was one of the new PAC-12 coaches. We get
to see Washington State in our place next year a little bit later in the season,
you guys open up with them I have heard.Have a great Christmas, lots
of things to discuss in the upcoming year.
Maybe he should look at some of the folks who post on articles about Doman's
work at BYU.They seem to know quite a bit about what needs to be done.
I think it's most likely Gary Crowton. He was just demoted at Maryland. Like
Chow, a great offensive mind. Also like Chow, he'll like nothing more than
beating up on his previous employer.
I'm pretty sure Leach is coaching in the pac12 north, not the south.