College basketball: Wildcats take on resurgent Utes tonight

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  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 25, 2011 3:15 p.m.


    You've misread the tea leaves; BYU's meltdown against Utah has long since been forgotten by the vast majority of BYU fans.

    Frankly it wasn't that big a deal, especially when it was more the result of BYU shooting themselves in the foot, time after time after time, than anything special Utah did.

    The only reason Utah fans are still obsessed with it is because that was the highlight of your otherwise dismal season. You had the easiest road to the PAC 12 title game that the Utes will ever have, and U failed miserably. That's what really hurts, and U know it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 2:13 p.m.


    No, it doesn't. I get over them rather quickly. Yes I would have prefered to win, or even to lose by a whole lot less, but I'm not suffering over it. I've played, coached and watched enough sports that I don't hang onto the losses for long, you just can't do it or else you would be miserable all the time plus if a guy is going to read these comment boards and he can't put a loss behind him then it would be extremely tough to read (54-10) or (17-14) or (Jimmer for 49) or whatever over and over again.

    So no it really doesn't, you guys can keep posting it all you want but it doesn't bother me any. There are some other BYU fans around here that hae seeing it so you can use that as your motivation I suppose.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    "proving that their win at BYU was nothing but a seven-turnover gifted fluke."

    You can always count on a byu fan to discredit a byu loss and a Utah win, even when Utah won by 44.

    "You do realize BEATING "some of the worst teams in the nation" is better than LOSING to what might be the worst team in the nation don't you?"

    I admit it. The Colorado loss was a terrible loss. It was by far the worst loss of the season because Colorado isn't very good at all. But at the end of the season, I look back and I'm glad that Utah played in the PAC 12 even though it was a shaky season instead of playing the kind of teams byu played. New Mexico St., Idaho, Idaho St., etc.

    54-10 still hurts doesn't it Duckhunter?

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    You guys just can't accept that you lost to Utah can you? Calling it a fluke? Please. Anyone that watched that game saw that Utah dominated from start to finish. The scoreboard says so.

    Sportsfan, do you really believe that byu deserves to be ranked just outside the top 25 as you stated? Their best win was over Utah State.

    Everyone knows that Utah played a tougher schedule. Can you imagine what byu's record might be if they played Utah's schedule after getting beat by Utah by 44 points? They might have won 3 or 4 games all year. Of course nobody can know for sure but if they were no match for Utah than they certainly would have been no match for the PAC 12.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:40 p.m.


    BYU moved on from their embarrassing loss to Utah to play well enough to be ranked just outside the Top 25 by season's end.

    Utah, on the other hand, stunk it up the rest of the season, proving that their win at BYU was nothing but a seven-turnover gifted fluke. Minimize it all you want to, but the Utes are one of only 3 or 4 teams in the country that have lost to two or more 10-loss teams during the last 5 years:


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:27 p.m.


    You do realize BEATING "some of the worst teams in the nation" is better than LOSING to what might be the worst team in the nation don't you?

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 9:20 a.m.


    You made my point exactly. After the Utes embarrassed byu on their home field 54-10, byu went 8-1, losing to the only good team left on the schedule. The other 8 were some of the worst teams in the nation. Thank you for reinforcing the point I made in my earlier post.

    By the way, it's funny how all you byu fans stand behind Colorado as if you're all buffalo fans. Probably because after the 44 point loss to Utah you have nothing else to smack talk about. That must sting.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:56 p.m.


    "Is that the kind of resurgence you're talking about?"

    It's a whole lot better than this kind of "resurgence":

    LOST at home Washington(7-5)
    LOST at home ASU(6-6)
    beat Pittsburgh(6-6)
    LOST to Cal(7-5)
    beat OSU(3-9)
    beat Arizona(4-8)
    beat UCLA(6-7)
    barely beat WSU(4-8) in OT
    LOST at home Colorado(3-9)

    After the BYU-Utah game

    BYU 8-1, their only loss to #18 TCU(11-2) on the road

    Utah 5-4, LOST to #98 Colorado(3-10) AT HOME

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    Weber will smoke the "resurgent" Utesies, and the headline will read, "Overhyped 2 win streak comes to an end for the resurgent Utes." If they had just beaten a couple of legit teams then maybe there would be something to talk about here.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    I agree, "resurgent" is too strong. "Improving" would be more DN-centric.

    Still, the Wildcats should win this one by 10-20 points. IF the Utes win (note I said IF---hypothetical here), then the Utes would have the same record as Arizona State. Interesting.

    Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    Coach Rahe obviously has truth issues. Yes I know how the pre game coach speak game is played but come on coach, you were really pouring it on thick there.

    I will say this, if utah does somehow beat weber st it will prove they have improved plus it will also probably put ole wildcat and o-town in their graves. That alone might make it worth seeing utah win.


  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    Portland and Idaho State are pretty pitiful teams. But since the Utes couldn't beat the pitiful teams earlier in their schedule, let's call this progress.

    Utes will hang with Weber State for long stretches, but Utes have no answer for Lilliard.

    All I want to see out of these Utes is effort, hustle, and class. The wins will come.

    Dec. 22, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    I found "Tom in CA's" comment interesting:

    "i bet utah could beat the cougars if they were playing them tonight. especially now since they have gotten a lot better."

    Even though he was 100% sarcastic, it does sound pretty familiar. Anybody else know of another team in the state that won a few games in a row against a few horrible teams and then came back and thought they could beat their rival who slaughtered them earlier in the season?

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    "Interesting headline. The Utes are "resurgent" after barely beating, on their home court, two of the worst teams in the country."

    Is that kind of how byu fans thought their football was resurgent after beating 7 or 8 of the worst teams in the nation after losing to the only decent teams on the schedule? Is that the kind of resurgence you're talking about?

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 22, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    Go Wilcats!! Utah has cut you and USU out of their future. They won't play BYU in November in football, they have isolated themselves from the state. They have forgotten where they've come from. The "U" is now a sign of arrogance as in, "We're to good for "U"."

    Give them a sendoff Weber they'll never forget.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    "I watched the BYU game, and they absolutely physically beat the heck out of BYU." -Rahe

    Yeah, the referees are supposed to call a foul when that happens, just so you know.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    I'm feeling really confident about this game! Ok maybe not, but i had to throw in some sarcasm for fun since many on this board can't catch it.

    I do see much more of a team effort on D from the group but that won't do much if you can't make a consistent shot. We need more shooters! I know, I know they are coming but it is really frustrating to watch.

    Go Utes! Keep your heads up and keep working.

  • Long Time Ute SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    All but One, cougar fans disgusting it must be 20-1 who gets the DN

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:39 a.m.


    Dude, it's sarcasm. And it's kind of obvious, haha. But go Utes, surprise a lot of people, including me! I would love to see a win against a team who really is better than us. Come on upset!

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:37 a.m.


    You have been punked by a big BYU fan.

    The day will never come when 'Tom in CA' ever roots for the UTES.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    Tom in CA
    Heady comment, even though it's offered in jest. The utes could outscore (in the second half) BYU if someone kidnapped the entire Cougar team including their equipment manager at half time.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Dec. 22, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    Tom in CA

    Your loyalty to your team is laudable, but it is safe to say that Utah wouldn't beat BYU if they played tonight--or any other night. Utah might not beat anybody else this year. But keep cheering for your team. They will eventually get better.

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 8:57 a.m.


  • VegasBart N. Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 22, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    I say Weber State by 16.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 22, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    i bet utah could beat the cougars if they were playing them tonight. especially now since they have gotten a lot better.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Dec. 22, 2011 6:30 a.m.

    Interesting headline. The Utes are "resurgent" after barely beating, on their home court, two of the worst teams in the country. That resurgence will be short-lived when they play a very good Weber State team in Ogden. The mighty PAC12 doesn't seem to have much this year but the Utes probably won't be resurgent there either.