Utah Jazz: Rookies agree that team's future is 'so bright'

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  • Theeng2 Holladay, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    "Dont ever compare Portland to the Jazz, thats the biggest insult you can make to Portland."

    Man, I've been to Portland lots of times. It's not that big, and honestly it's not that cool of a place. If you're from there then fine, but stop dissing the Jazz and Utah.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    Portland Trail Blazers really likes to stir the pot. Now he tells us that because SLC is the smallest market in the NBA, it is doomed to failure? Is he aware that Green Bay is by far the smallest market in the NFL, yet they won it all last year and are well ahead of the competition this year as well. Sure, the NFL shares revenue better than the NBA does, but "Portland" is not taking into account the dedication of the Millers and the loyalty of the fans.

    I suggest we not feed the trolls.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:28 p.m.

    Jazz will never relocate as long as Gail Miller is alive, and Greg won't sell either unless he's also planning on selling all the other LHM businesses here in Utah. Can't believe any "diehard" Jazz fans still fall for this kind of trolling.

    I will say that if Toronto is the largest city in Canada, then it's the NYC, not Chicago, of Canada.

    Personally, I hope we roll out Burks-Hayward-Evans-Favors-Kanter all season. Burks & Hayward can both bring the ball up and are good passers and at least those five guys will all try. Get some great experience and then be positioned for a top pick in a deep draft.

    Memo, Raja & Howard appear done, Harris doesn't care anymore, Al & CJ are good guys but sheesh. Trade Sap to big-desperate Memphis for some future picks, they could win it all with him, ZBo & MGasol.

    We're not winning anything anyway this year, don't want to be in Portland's eternal limbo, good enough to make the playoffs but not good enough to advance.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    Someone remind me again what the only team in the Western Conference not to win a single playoff series over the last decade is...

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    Jazz Source: I agree with you about Jefferson, but who would take him? He is one expensive move for someone, just to assume his contract.

    Old Timer: You're right and it should happen within one month if not sooner.

    CJ Miles: Who said anything about Burks or Kanter being Michael Jordan. Everyone knows Kanter needs a lot more experience to be consistent. He is a project, but people who know basketball some are betting the Jazz got a real good one when they drafted him. He's a good team guy with a mean streak when he needs to get to the basket or rebound, and he's strong enough and skilled enough to get there. Just needs some practice. As for Burks, he can already do two things well that CJ can't, dribble and pass. I could say more, but the season hasn't even started. Let's just see what transpires.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 4:17 p.m.

    Other than Oklahoma City, SLC is the smallest NBA market. Thunder are light years ahead of the Jazz.

    Golden State - San Francisco-Oakland, bay area in CALIFORNIA; they bring in a ton of money
    Minneapolis - big midwest city
    Toronto - largest city in Canada; its the Chicago of Candada to get an idea
    Clipers??? - LOS ANGELES, wow....
    Charlotte - one of the largest southeatern cities; also could bring in the Raleigh-Durham market as well.

    all these cities are in LARGE tv markets, unlike the Jazz. These teams are fine. Utah Jazz are relocating, mark it down, 4-6 years you'll be cheering for the Kansas City Jazz or the Seattle SuperSonics (former Jazz).

    Dont ever compare Portland to the Jazz, thats the biggest insult you can make to Portland.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    @ Portland

    So you think the Jazz are going to relocate when they have some of the best attendance and fans in the league? Tell me how Portland is so much more successful than Utah. They are basically the same franchise. Loyal fans, good homecourt, successful for years. You want bad franchises? Milwaukee, Golden State, Memphis, Toronto, The Clippers (Until this year) Charlotte, Minnesota, who keeps signing point guards, and 13 games a year. Those are bad franchises, and should be worried about relocating.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Good comments Scalman, RV, Old Timer, and Captian. I agree.

    Talent without effort is dead. These young guys have obvious talent and they want to play. I hope coach Corbin lets them. They will at least try and defend. As we saw up in Portland it gets ugly when guys try to slack on defense.

  • Theeng2 Holladay, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    @Portland Trail Blazers There are a lot of financially worse off franchises than the Jazz. 10,000+ fans recently showed up to watch a two quarter scrimmage game. Now that is what I call loyalty. The fan base here is alive and well, and if Miller ever up rooted the team he would lose a ton of business. He might as well sell the minor league team, race track, etc., if he sells the Jazz.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Dec. 21, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    I feel great about having Kanter, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Evans, Millsap and Watson on the team. They exhibit the type of play I want to see on the Jazz. The rest of them are trade bait. Though I would give Howard some time to prove himself.

    The Veteran's play in the first exhibition game was atrocious. I really would like to see the Jazz make a move that brings them what they need; a great point guard and/or a dead-eyed shooter.

    By the way, the last time the Jazz drafted someone who turned out to be great his name was:

    John Stockton

    And yes, fans were clueless enough to boo the pick.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 21, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    I find it hilarious how every rookie is the next Michael Jordan. Name the last time the Jazz drafted someone who turned out to be good that wasn't named Dwill? Kantor and Burks will not help this team at all this year. Jefferson needs to be traded as he will never be a winner. There are some good young players in Favors, Hayward, CJ to build the team around and perhaps by year 3 Kantor will show something for a #3. The Jazz need to look for a better PG. Harris is a "me" first PG. 15 win season with lots of blow-outs.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    I know the Grizz are in Memphis and Hornets are in New Orleans, my point is, expect the Spazz to relocate in 4-6 years.

    Who cares if POR is paying Oden 9 mill...they have the money to be able to.

    POR's owner is the richest of all NBA owners and Portland has the deepest pockets for an NBA franchise of its size.

    There is a reason why POR can take chances and go after Jazz players AND hurt the Jazz financially, POR can take big financial risk and go after guys and put down rediculous money for them. The Jazz cannot.

    When the Jazz relocate to either Seattle or Kansas City, 90% of it will be because the Jazz are dying financially in Utah, you're already seeing and hearing about it. Anytime an owner is asked how long a team will be in their city, is never a good sign.

    You have Jazz fans wondering about it too, and talking about it among themselves. I'm not trying to be funny or rude, but i'm a realist that doesnt wear Jazz glasses. Everything is just starting to build up and add up for the Jazz to relocate.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:32 p.m.

    Oden also lost a pickup game to some nobody in a local YMCA right after he was drafted.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    The jazz's future will be bright as long the maintenance crew keeps on replacing the burnt out light bulbs inside the Delta Center.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    Portland Trailblazers.

    You can't control how hard players can work or how good they can be. Neither can I.

    The Hornets are in New Orleans now not Charlotte. Are you sure you are an NBA fan?

    Portland could've had Durant but they were stupid and drafted Oden. Just like they drafted Bowie over Jordan.

    Anybody in America can do Greg Odens job right now. That's how good he is. It must really make you mad that Roy has already retired after only 5 years. Aldridge and his weak heart will probably die on the court this season. Trailblazers are about a season away from rebuilding once again after they boasted that they were going to win 6 rings with Aldridge Roy and Oden. What a joke.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Portland Trailblazers.

    You are the only one who is saying that we all think the Jazz will become the next OKC. Maybe deep down you actually believe it.

    Once again The Grizzles are in Memphis not Vancouver.

    Anybody can do Greg Odens job right now. The trailblazers are paying him 9 million to ride the pine. Gosh, where do I apply for that job? If portland is giving away free millions, maybe I can get some of that. There are millions of people in this country that can sit on their butts just as well as Oden can.

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Probably won't happen, but I sure hope they beat the blazers tonight so some people when shut up.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    The Jazz's future is as bright as the Vancouver Grizzlies or Charlotte Hornets.

    Unfortunately for Jazz fans, they think the Jazz are the next OKC Thunder. But they tend to forget that the Thunder are in the same division, and that OKC has not even reached their peak, and the Thunder have already stolen the role for great, small market team that will dominate.

    Jazz fans, get real and take off your blue/green/yellow/pink/purple glasses...(i think those are the Jazz colors...) and realize the Jazz are officially on the same level as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Utah Utes men's team and Idaho Stampede.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 21, 2011 10:07 a.m.

    Ty, take Miles, Bell, and Memo out of the starting lineup. I don't care who replaces them, just change!

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    The people on these boards, for the most part, are the diehards. The Jazz organization has to be concerned about the casual fan who goes to Jazz games for the fun/social aspects. Those are the fans that walk away if the Jazz start chronically losing.

    Corbin faces two challenges.

    1. If the vets stink it up and can't win games then he has a bunch of veterans that can't win yet that is where the franchise has invested most all the salary to win.

    2. Playing young guys may bode well for the future but chronic losing, which is what will happen if they go totally young, may risk losing alot of casual fans/business.

    The NBA is a win now business. You have to be careful when you accept losing and it becomes systemic because if you don't show consistent progress then its problematic and perpetuates the problem and nobody wants to play here for an additional reason.

    Example 1 Al Jefferson. He has put up stats on bad teams his entire NBA career. Sure its only one game but I saw nothing encouraging Monday night.

    Offensively he's a black hole and ruins the offensive flow. Terrible defensively.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    The Young ones are what make me excited to see the Jazz this season, I just hope Corbin see's that the youngsters play is good enough that they should be on the floor. The vets may do some things better and know the plays and system better but unless they play a ton better than the youngsters, the youngster need to be the players on the floor, getting experience and trying to win the games. Talent wise it is with the young players , they just need playing time. I look for Hayward to have a better game tonight and how well Favors plays tonight will tell alot about how ready he is to force himself into the starting lineup. Consistency needs to be shown from all the players.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    The do need to get minutes in to rookies, start with - Harris, Burks, Hayward, Favors & Kanter
    Rest AL & Milsap
    2nd unit - Watson, Bell, CJ, Evans & Memo
    Then give a few mins to Tinsley or McLeod to see which one we are keeping

    Jazz brass should keep an open mind on all trades only ones I would , keep Burks, Kanter, Hayward & of course Favors & Evans - the rest - trade if it makes the team better for the future.
    We need to have a 3 - 5 year plan to back to contend

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:52 a.m.

    Corbin playing Favors and Kanter together is going to pay dividends as they mature. Jazz should shoot better tonight. Go Hayward/Burks!