"Dont ever compare Portland to the Jazz, thats the biggest insult you can
make to Portland."Man, I've been to Portland lots of times.
It's not that big, and honestly it's not that cool of a place. If you're from
there then fine, but stop dissing the Jazz and Utah.
Portland Trail Blazers really likes to stir the pot. Now he tells us that
because SLC is the smallest market in the NBA, it is doomed to failure? Is he
aware that Green Bay is by far the smallest market in the NFL, yet they won it
all last year and are well ahead of the competition this year as well. Sure, the
NFL shares revenue better than the NBA does, but "Portland" is not
taking into account the dedication of the Millers and the loyalty of the fans.
I suggest we not feed the trolls.
Jazz will never relocate as long as Gail Miller is alive, and Greg won't sell
either unless he's also planning on selling all the other LHM businesses here in
Utah. Can't believe any "diehard" Jazz fans still fall for this kind
of trolling.I will say that if Toronto is the largest city in
Canada, then it's the NYC, not Chicago, of Canada.Personally, I hope
we roll out Burks-Hayward-Evans-Favors-Kanter all season. Burks & Hayward
can both bring the ball up and are good passers and at least those five guys
will all try. Get some great experience and then be positioned for a top pick
in a deep draft. Memo, Raja & Howard appear done, Harris
doesn't care anymore, Al & CJ are good guys but sheesh. Trade Sap to
big-desperate Memphis for some future picks, they could win it all with him, ZBo
& MGasol.We're not winning anything anyway this year, don't want
to be in Portland's eternal limbo, good enough to make the playoffs but not good
enough to advance.
Someone remind me again what the only team in the Western Conference not to win
a single playoff series over the last decade is...
Jazz Source: I agree with you about Jefferson, but who would take him? He is one
expensive move for someone, just to assume his contract.Old Timer:
You're right and it should happen within one month if not sooner.CJ
Miles: Who said anything about Burks or Kanter being Michael Jordan. Everyone
knows Kanter needs a lot more experience to be consistent. He is a project, but
people who know basketball some are betting the Jazz got a real good one when
they drafted him. He's a good team guy with a mean streak when he needs to get
to the basket or rebound, and he's strong enough and skilled enough to get
there. Just needs some practice. As for Burks, he can already do two things well
that CJ can't, dribble and pass. I could say more, but the season hasn't even
started. Let's just see what transpires.
Other than Oklahoma City, SLC is the smallest NBA market. Thunder are light
years ahead of the Jazz. Golden State - San Francisco-Oakland, bay
area in CALIFORNIA; they bring in a ton of moneyMinneapolis - big midwest
cityToronto - largest city in Canada; its the Chicago of Candada to get an
ideaClipers??? - LOS ANGELES, wow....Charlotte - one of the largest
southeatern cities; also could bring in the Raleigh-Durham market as well. all these cities are in LARGE tv markets, unlike the Jazz. These teams
are fine. Utah Jazz are relocating, mark it down, 4-6 years you'll be cheering
for the Kansas City Jazz or the Seattle SuperSonics (former Jazz). Dont ever compare Portland to the Jazz, thats the biggest insult you can make
@ PortlandSo you think the Jazz are going to relocate when they have
some of the best attendance and fans in the league? Tell me how Portland is so
much more successful than Utah. They are basically the same franchise. Loyal
fans, good homecourt, successful for years. You want bad franchises? Milwaukee,
Golden State, Memphis, Toronto, The Clippers (Until this year) Charlotte,
Minnesota, who keeps signing point guards, and 13 games a year. Those are bad
franchises, and should be worried about relocating.
Good comments Scalman, RV, Old Timer, and Captian. I agree. Talent
without effort is dead. These young guys have obvious talent and they want to
play. I hope coach Corbin lets them. They will at least try and defend. As we
saw up in Portland it gets ugly when guys try to slack on defense.
@Portland Trail Blazers There are a lot of financially worse off franchises
than the Jazz. 10,000+ fans recently showed up to watch a two quarter scrimmage
game. Now that is what I call loyalty. The fan base here is alive and well,
and if Miller ever up rooted the team he would lose a ton of business. He might
as well sell the minor league team, race track, etc., if he sells the Jazz.
I feel great about having Kanter, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Evans, Millsap and
Watson on the team. They exhibit the type of play I want to see on the Jazz. The
rest of them are trade bait. Though I would give Howard some time to prove
himself.The Veteran's play in the first exhibition game was
atrocious. I really would like to see the Jazz make a move that brings them what
they need; a great point guard and/or a dead-eyed shooter.By the
way, the last time the Jazz drafted someone who turned out to be great his name
was:John StocktonAnd yes, fans were clueless enough to
boo the pick.
I find it hilarious how every rookie is the next Michael Jordan. Name the last
time the Jazz drafted someone who turned out to be good that wasn't named Dwill?
Kantor and Burks will not help this team at all this year. Jefferson needs to
be traded as he will never be a winner. There are some good young players in
Favors, Hayward, CJ to build the team around and perhaps by year 3 Kantor will
show something for a #3. The Jazz need to look for a better PG. Harris is a
"me" first PG. 15 win season with lots of blow-outs.
I know the Grizz are in Memphis and Hornets are in New Orleans, my point is,
expect the Spazz to relocate in 4-6 years.Who cares if POR is paying
Oden 9 mill...they have the money to be able to. POR's owner is the
richest of all NBA owners and Portland has the deepest pockets for an NBA
franchise of its size. There is a reason why POR can take chances
and go after Jazz players AND hurt the Jazz financially, POR can take big
financial risk and go after guys and put down rediculous money for them. The
Jazz cannot. When the Jazz relocate to either Seattle or Kansas
City, 90% of it will be because the Jazz are dying financially in Utah, you're
already seeing and hearing about it. Anytime an owner is asked how long a team
will be in their city, is never a good sign.You have Jazz fans
wondering about it too, and talking about it among themselves. I'm not trying to
be funny or rude, but i'm a realist that doesnt wear Jazz glasses. Everything is
just starting to build up and add up for the Jazz to relocate.
Oden also lost a pickup game to some nobody in a local YMCA right after he was
The jazz's future will be bright as long the maintenance crew keeps on replacing
the burnt out light bulbs inside the Delta Center.
Portland Trailblazers.You can't control how hard players can work or
how good they can be. Neither can I. The Hornets are in New Orleans
now not Charlotte. Are you sure you are an NBA fan? Portland
could've had Durant but they were stupid and drafted Oden. Just like they
drafted Bowie over Jordan. Anybody in America can do Greg Odens job
right now. That's how good he is. It must really make you mad that Roy has
already retired after only 5 years. Aldridge and his weak heart will probably
die on the court this season. Trailblazers are about a season away from
rebuilding once again after they boasted that they were going to win 6 rings
with Aldridge Roy and Oden. What a joke.
Portland Trailblazers.You are the only one who is saying that we all
think the Jazz will become the next OKC. Maybe deep down you actually believe
it. Once again The Grizzles are in Memphis not Vancouver. Anybody can do Greg Odens job right now. The trailblazers are paying him 9
million to ride the pine. Gosh, where do I apply for that job? If portland is
giving away free millions, maybe I can get some of that. There are millions of
people in this country that can sit on their butts just as well as Oden can.
Probably won't happen, but I sure hope they beat the blazers tonight so some
people when shut up.
The Jazz's future is as bright as the Vancouver Grizzlies or Charlotte
Hornets.Unfortunately for Jazz fans, they think the Jazz are the
next OKC Thunder. But they tend to forget that the Thunder are in the same
division, and that OKC has not even reached their peak, and the Thunder have
already stolen the role for great, small market team that will dominate. Jazz fans, get real and take off your blue/green/yellow/pink/purple
glasses...(i think those are the Jazz colors...) and realize the Jazz are
officially on the same level as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Utah Utes men's team
and Idaho Stampede.
Ty, take Miles, Bell, and Memo out of the starting lineup. I don't care who
replaces them, just change!
The people on these boards, for the most part, are the diehards. The Jazz
organization has to be concerned about the casual fan who goes to Jazz games for
the fun/social aspects. Those are the fans that walk away if the Jazz start
chronically losing.Corbin faces two challenges. 1. If
the vets stink it up and can't win games then he has a bunch of veterans that
can't win yet that is where the franchise has invested most all the salary to
win.2. Playing young guys may bode well for the future but chronic
losing, which is what will happen if they go totally young, may risk losing alot
of casual fans/business.The NBA is a win now business. You have to
be careful when you accept losing and it becomes systemic because if you don't
show consistent progress then its problematic and perpetuates the problem and
nobody wants to play here for an additional reason.Example 1 Al
Jefferson. He has put up stats on bad teams his entire NBA career. Sure its
only one game but I saw nothing encouraging Monday night.Offensively
he's a black hole and ruins the offensive flow. Terrible defensively.
The Young ones are what make me excited to see the Jazz this season, I just hope
Corbin see's that the youngsters play is good enough that they should be on the
floor. The vets may do some things better and know the plays and system better
but unless they play a ton better than the youngsters, the youngster need to be
the players on the floor, getting experience and trying to win the games. Talent
wise it is with the young players , they just need playing time. I look for
Hayward to have a better game tonight and how well Favors plays tonight will
tell alot about how ready he is to force himself into the starting lineup.
Consistency needs to be shown from all the players.
The do need to get minutes in to rookies, start with - Harris, Burks, Hayward,
Favors & KanterRest AL & Milsap2nd unit - Watson, Bell, CJ,
Evans & MemoThen give a few mins to Tinsley or McLeod to see which one
we are keepingJazz brass should keep an open mind on all trades only
ones I would , keep Burks, Kanter, Hayward & of course Favors & Evans -
the rest - trade if it makes the team better for the future.We need to
have a 3 - 5 year plan to back to contend
Corbin playing Favors and Kanter together is going to pay dividends as they
mature. Jazz should shoot better tonight. Go Hayward/Burks!