Panetta formally shuts down U.S. war in Iraq

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  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 16, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    This was not an illegal war - just an unnecessary war. Everybody in congress signed off on it including Hilary Clinton. I do question the validity of this war. Yes we killed Saddam and his sons but other than that what did we accomplish that warrants the sacrifice of the precious blood of our brave soldiers? Iraq a democracy? Yet to be seen and knowing the insane ideology that exists in this mud hole of humanity I highly doubt democracy can or will survive. It's like trying to grow an orchard in Death Valley without hauling in water or dirt. Bush jumped the gun on this war no question. I also think this sink hole in Afghanistan is even worse than Iraq. We could fight there for 1000 years and never win anything. Some places aren't worth fighting for ... unless you want the oil but America has never been a country to rob another country of its resources. I say bring all our troupes home and let this lesson be learned of never to try to nation build again.

  • Pack Layton, Utah
    Dec. 16, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    Thank you to the women and men who have served our country. God bless you for your efforts. I for one am grateful for those who have sacrificed so much for our continued freedoms.

  • liahona Westbank, BC
    Dec. 16, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    What an utter waste of human life. The US needs to keeps their armed services home, protect their borders, tighten immigration, and fix the mess in their own backyards. This policing the world will bring America down.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 16, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    What did we get for all the blood and treasure that we lost in this lousy war? If we are not able to pay ourselves back with Iraqi oil, then we did it for nothing. Are the Iraqis better off because of our efforts? I don't know, but I think they are not as desirous for freedom as we might have thought going into this fiasco.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Dec. 15, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    3 Trillion $ and as Republicans love to say "we're broke. Where were you tea party fiscal Hawks then? I said we should pay for the ward with war bonds or cost cutting. I gout shouted out of the republican party. GW Bush went on to incur 2 stimulus packages, 700 billion for banks, 1 trillion for medicare prescription, trillions on Afghanistan. Now the Republicans want the presidency back after that mess? What a joke. Where were you deficit hawks then?

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    Dec. 15, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    @ Uncle Rico - don't you mean "re-election"?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    The Big spin that split our country has not ended. There are millions thinking this was a real war against those that attacked the towers. Obama got that guy.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 15, 2011 7:24 p.m.

    uncle Rico.... it really is annoying how he keeps saying he is going to do something, than actually does it. ObamaCare, Osama Bin Laden, and now this.... what in the heck does he think he is doing?

    He really needs to follow the lead of those on the right, and just say no to everything, and pass only legislation that is token because you know it will never make it to law.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 7:00 p.m.

    @Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011
    "Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!"

    Um... we left at the exact time Bush, in his last few months in office, set as the timeline to leave so if there's a secret conspiracy to help Obama win re-election... Bush must've been part of it.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 15, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Thank god we are almost out. Republicans like McDuff McCain, Lindsey Graham, Limbaugh, Hannity, ect, ect need to shut up or put up. Four, 5, 6 7, tours of duty by young men, women and family heads are too much to ask for such a few. If these war hawks want to occupy and fight many foreign countries like we have been doing for 25 plus years now how about them sending immediate an extended family members through a military draft like we once had when we went to wars and won them decisively in much shorter time frames than these Afgan & Iraq wars. The big business boys like the military investment on equipment and materials to pad their bottom lines but don't want any family members jepardized. Let someone else do the fighting is their mentality while they profit. Open the draft and bases if we are to have "real" forces, otherwise quit being world peace keepers and occupyers. Thanks to all of those great people that have served our country through numerous tours of duty.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Dec. 15, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    If you are right Orange&Blue I hope who ever gives the order to go back in is impeached within a month of the action.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    Just like everything else in Obama's presidency Obama continues to clean up the mess left by George Bush. The wars, economy. Its gonna take a little time. After all it took Bush 8 years to destroy Clintons economy and balanced budget surpluss. Its gonna take Obama more time to clean up the mess. Especially with NO help from those responsible The GOP

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    Now that troops are getting out of Iraq, do you think either President Bush or Chaney will tell us where they hid the WMD? Better yet, both said the war would be paid for by the oil we got from Iraq. How much oil did we get? The Republicans have no answer to this question yet.

  • Orange&Blue Pocatello, ID
    Dec. 15, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    Ended? I have a feeling it won't end because Iraq is so shaky right now. They are like a child learning to walk and there is no way they're going to be able to do it on their own. I've felt this way for awhile, pulling out will be a mistake if the country isn't ready to be responsible for 100% control. Speaking with my wife, who served '06-'07, she has said the biggest problem is that no one knows how to practically use their skills, under the old regime, they never needed to. Industry, education and practical use of resources is what we needed to leave behind, not a shaky government. Deep down, and I pray I am wrong, I have a feeling we'll be back in a few years, regardless what political party is in power.

  • Rutland vs. Medfield Seattle, Wa
    Dec. 15, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    @Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011
    "Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!"

    I thought George W. Bush declared victory on May 1, 2003 aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. Under a large banner that read, "Mission Accomplished", Bush announced the end of combat operations in the Iraq War.

    Hmm, cynicism is does not appear to be your forte.

    Thank you, President Obama, for following through with this timeline, and not extending the war in Iraq further.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 1:38 p.m.

    @Uncle Rico

    Nobody won in this war, certainly not the United States.

    Never should have been there, certainly never should have lasted almost a decade.

    But yeah, President Obama does deserve credit for doing what he said he would do. This war lingered for almost 10 years, and apparently if a Republican would have won the 2008 election would go on forever since they are so against this, Obama finished the job in less than 3. Bush started it, Bush let it linger, even after declaring "Mission Accomplished," thank goodness Obama has finally put an end to this nonsense.

    I'll take the guy who gets us out of unnecessary wars to help his election chances, over the guy who started 2 of them to solidify his 2nd term.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    *'GOP contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/12/11

    "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," vowed the former Massachusetts governor.'

  • FatherOfFour WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 1:04 p.m.

    I served in Iraq from 2003-2004 with the Utah National Guard. I didn't understand why we went there in the first place, and I certainly don't understand why we stayed for so long.

    Every GOP candidate for president has come out in opposition to this withdrawal. Would any of them send troops back in if elected?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    '@Iron Rod, Having fulfilled my military duty for my country I agree with you 100%. Utahans should be ashamed at their numbers ...' - ClarkKent | 10:31 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011

    I will turn this into a 'Utah vs.' scenario.

    However, after being kicked out of the military after my tour in South Korea for being gay...

    I will only say that people who SUPPORT going to war...?

    Should then, be the first persons who join the military...

    and fight IN them.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Dec. 15, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    Iron Rod | 10:13 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    "That conflicts with the feelings of many here in Utah; However, Utah has one of the lowest rates of participation in the military in the United States.
    What we ccn learn from this is that some people like to go to war with others children and grandchildren.
    Maybe it is just me but I feel the majority of the biggest hawks are those who have not served in the military or have children in the military"

    @Iron Rod, Having fulfilled my military duty for my country I agree with you 100%. Utahans should be ashamed at their numbers ...

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    Personally I find it interesting that all the people who pushed us into attacking Iraq are silent now.

    Do you hear anything from Cheney,Wolfowitz, Pearl, and Feith? Not a word.

    One thing that speaks volumes about the war in Iraq is that less than 33% of the returning veterans of the conflict think it was worthwhile according to a Pew research poll.

    That conflicts with the feelings of many here in Utah; However, Utah has one of the lowest rates of participation in the military in the United States.

    What we ccn learn from this is that some people like to go to war with others children and grandchildren.

    Maybe it is just me but I feel the majority of the biggest hawks are those who have not served in the military or have children in the military

    Hopefully we can learn a lesson from this about being manipulated into war.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    'Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!' - Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011

    Excuse me?

    Obama didn't end the war in Iraq...

    fast enough??

    Obama didn't START the war in Iraq!

    "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.' - George W. Bush - Ohio Speech 10/7/2002

    Obama didn't START the war in Afghanistan!

    On my orders, the United States military has begun strikes against al-Qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the Taleban regime in Afghanistan.'
    - GEORGE W. BUSH 10/07/2001

    That was a REPUBLICAN controlled House, Senate and Presidency!

    Well, WHERE ARE THEY??

    Not taking the responsibility for the mess THEY created...

    and complaining when someone ELSE cleans up THEIR mess 'not fast enough.'

    It is truly disgusting how partisan our country has become.

    When the people who tought 'self-reliance'...

    cannot hold THEMSELVES accountable for two wars!

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    What did we accomplish in Iraq?

    $3 trillion dollar debt...

    and the loss of over 4,000 American lives.

    *'U.S. Military deaths in Iraq war at 4,485 - AP - Published by the DSNews - 11/22/2011

    For 'WMD's'...

    *'US gives up search for Iraq WMD' - BBC News - 01/12/05

    'Mr Duelfer reported last year that Iraq had no stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons at the time of the US-led invasion nearly two years ago.'

    That never existed.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Dec. 15, 2011 9:26 a.m.

    Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Dec. 15, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    This illegal war ended 9 years too late. Nobodys impressed.