This was not an illegal war - just an unnecessary war. Everybody in congress
signed off on it including Hilary Clinton. I do question the validity of this
war. Yes we killed Saddam and his sons but other than that what did we
accomplish that warrants the sacrifice of the precious blood of our brave
soldiers? Iraq a democracy? Yet to be seen and knowing the insane ideology that
exists in this mud hole of humanity I highly doubt democracy can or will
survive. It's like trying to grow an orchard in Death Valley without hauling in
water or dirt. Bush jumped the gun on this war no question. I also think this
sink hole in Afghanistan is even worse than Iraq. We could fight there for 1000
years and never win anything. Some places aren't worth fighting for ... unless
you want the oil but America has never been a country to rob another country of
its resources. I say bring all our troupes home and let this lesson be learned
of never to try to nation build again.
Thank you to the women and men who have served our country. God bless you for
your efforts. I for one am grateful for those who have sacrificed so much for
our continued freedoms.
What an utter waste of human life. The US needs to keeps their armed services
home, protect their borders, tighten immigration, and fix the mess in their own
backyards. This policing the world will bring America down.
What did we get for all the blood and treasure that we lost in this lousy war?
If we are not able to pay ourselves back with Iraqi oil, then we did it for
nothing. Are the Iraqis better off because of our efforts? I don't know, but I
think they are not as desirous for freedom as we might have thought going into
3 Trillion $ and as Republicans love to say "we're broke. Where were you
tea party fiscal Hawks then? I said we should pay for the ward with war bonds
or cost cutting. I gout shouted out of the republican party. GW Bush went on
to incur 2 stimulus packages, 700 billion for banks, 1 trillion for medicare
prescription, trillions on Afghanistan. Now the Republicans want the presidency
back after that mess? What a joke. Where were you deficit hawks then?
@ Uncle Rico - don't you mean "re-election"?
The Big spin that split our country has not ended. There are millions thinking
this was a real war against those that attacked the towers. Obama got that guy.
uncle Rico.... it really is annoying how he keeps saying he is going to do
something, than actually does it. ObamaCare, Osama Bin Laden, and now this....
what in the heck does he think he is doing?He really needs to follow
the lead of those on the right, and just say no to everything, and pass only
legislation that is token because you know it will never make it to law.
@Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011 "Wow, just in time for Obama to
claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!"Um...
we left at the exact time Bush, in his last few months in office, set as the
timeline to leave so if there's a secret conspiracy to help Obama win
re-election... Bush must've been part of it.
Thank god we are almost out. Republicans like McDuff McCain, Lindsey Graham,
Limbaugh, Hannity, ect, ect need to shut up or put up. Four, 5, 6 7, tours of
duty by young men, women and family heads are too much to ask for such a few. If
these war hawks want to occupy and fight many foreign countries like we have
been doing for 25 plus years now how about them sending immediate an extended
family members through a military draft like we once had when we went to wars
and won them decisively in much shorter time frames than these Afgan & Iraq
wars. The big business boys like the military investment on equipment and
materials to pad their bottom lines but don't want any family members
jepardized. Let someone else do the fighting is their mentality while they
profit. Open the draft and bases if we are to have "real" forces,
otherwise quit being world peace keepers and occupyers. Thanks to all of those
great people that have served our country through numerous tours of duty.
If you are right Orange&Blue I hope who ever gives the order to go back in
is impeached within a month of the action.
Just like everything else in Obama's presidency Obama continues to clean up the
mess left by George Bush. The wars, economy. Its gonna take a little time. After
all it took Bush 8 years to destroy Clintons economy and balanced budget
surpluss. Its gonna take Obama more time to clean up the mess. Especially with
NO help from those responsible The GOP
Now that troops are getting out of Iraq, do you think either President Bush or
Chaney will tell us where they hid the WMD? Better yet, both said the war would
be paid for by the oil we got from Iraq. How much oil did we get? The
Republicans have no answer to this question yet.
Ended? I have a feeling it won't end because Iraq is so shaky right now. They
are like a child learning to walk and there is no way they're going to be able
to do it on their own. I've felt this way for awhile, pulling out will be a
mistake if the country isn't ready to be responsible for 100% control. Speaking
with my wife, who served '06-'07, she has said the biggest problem is that no
one knows how to practically use their skills, under the old regime, they never
needed to. Industry, education and practical use of resources is what we needed
to leave behind, not a shaky government. Deep down, and I pray I am wrong, I
have a feeling we'll be back in a few years, regardless what political party is
@Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011 "Wow, just in time for Obama to
claim victory in preparation for the upcoming election!"I
thought George W. Bush declared victory on May 1, 2003 aboard the USS Abraham
Lincoln. Under a large banner that read, "Mission Accomplished", Bush
announced the end of combat operations in the Iraq War.Hmm, cynicism
is does not appear to be your forte.Thank you, President Obama, for
following through with this timeline, and not extending the war in Iraq further.
@Uncle RicoNobody won in this war, certainly not the United
States.Never should have been there, certainly never should have
lasted almost a decade.But yeah, President Obama does deserve credit
for doing what he said he would do. This war lingered for almost 10 years, and
apparently if a Republican would have won the 2008 election would go on forever
since they are so against this, Obama finished the job in less than 3. Bush
started it, Bush let it linger, even after declaring "Mission
Accomplished," thank goodness Obama has finally put an end to this
nonsense.I'll take the guy who gets us out of unnecessary wars to
help his election chances, over the guy who started 2 of them to solidify his
*'GOP contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews -
11/12/11 "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear
weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon,"
vowed the former Massachusetts governor.'
I served in Iraq from 2003-2004 with the Utah National Guard. I didn't
understand why we went there in the first place, and I certainly don't
understand why we stayed for so long. Every GOP candidate for
president has come out in opposition to this withdrawal. Would any of them send
troops back in if elected?
'@Iron Rod, Having fulfilled my military duty for my country I agree with you
100%. Utahans should be ashamed at their numbers ...' - ClarkKent | 10:31 a.m.
Dec. 15, 2011 I will turn this into a 'Utah vs.' scenario. However, after being kicked out of the military after my tour in South
Korea for being gay... I will only say that people who SUPPORT going
to war...? Should then, be the first persons who join the
military... and fight IN them.
Iron Rod | 10:13 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT "That
conflicts with the feelings of many here in Utah; However, Utah has one of the
lowest rates of participation in the military in the United States.What we
ccn learn from this is that some people like to go to war with others children
and grandchildren.Maybe it is just me but I feel the majority of the
biggest hawks are those who have not served in the military or have children in
the military"@Iron Rod, Having fulfilled my military duty for
my country I agree with you 100%. Utahans should be ashamed at their numbers
Personally I find it interesting that all the people who pushed us into
attacking Iraq are silent now.Do you hear anything from
Cheney,Wolfowitz, Pearl, and Feith? Not a word.One thing that
speaks volumes about the war in Iraq is that less than 33% of the returning
veterans of the conflict think it was worthwhile according to a Pew research
poll.That conflicts with the feelings of many here in Utah; However,
Utah has one of the lowest rates of participation in the military in the United
States.What we ccn learn from this is that some people like to go to
war with others children and grandchildren.Maybe it is just me but I
feel the majority of the biggest hawks are those who have not served in the
military or have children in the militaryHopefully we can learn a
lesson from this about being manipulated into war.
'Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming
election!' - Uncle Rico | 9:26 a.m. Dec. 15, 2011 Excuse me? Obama didn't end the war in Iraq... fast enough?? Obama didn't START the war in Iraq! "The Iraqi regime . . .
possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear
weapons.' - George W. Bush - Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 Obama didn't
START the war in Afghanistan! On my orders, the United States
military has begun strikes against al-Qaeda terrorist training camps and
military installations of the Taleban regime in Afghanistan.' - GEORGE W.
BUSH 10/07/2001 That was a REPUBLICAN controlled House, Senate and
Presidency! Well, WHERE ARE THEY?? Not taking the
responsibility for the mess THEY created... and complaining when
someone ELSE cleans up THEIR mess 'not fast enough.' It is truly
disgusting how partisan our country has become. When the people who
tought 'self-reliance'... cannot hold THEMSELVES accountable for
What did we accomplish in Iraq? $3 trillion dollar debt... and the loss of over 4,000 American lives. *'U.S. Military deaths
in Iraq war at 4,485 - AP - Published by the DSNews - 11/22/2011
For 'WMD's'... *'US gives up search for Iraq WMD' - BBC News -
01/12/05 'Mr Duelfer reported last year that Iraq had no stockpiles
of chemical or biological weapons at the time of the US-led invasion nearly two
years ago.' That never existed.
Wow, just in time for Obama to claim victory in preparation for the upcoming
This illegal war ended 9 years too late. Nobodys impressed.