Salt Lake most popular faith-based tourist destination

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  • Freedom-In-Danger WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    Pagan: I am free to believe differently than you. I believe that it isn't the same action because of my belief that the groups are different. In fact, the two groups ARE different. Two males do not make up the same biological unit as a male and female do. And don't try to play the racism card to compare my beliefs to racists. I am against gay marriage whether the couple is white, black, or any other combination you can think of.

    You may consider Temple Square a theme park, but I consider it sacred and a way of showing others hospitality and welcoming them to participate in our culture.

    I saw women get turned around for wearing inappropriate clothing at European cathedrals. You may consider it wrong all you want. But on other people's property you have no right to violate what they own. If you disagree, then you have to accept whatever I do on your property, else be exposed as a hypocrite. Rather than defer this point, please address it; is your freedom more important than freedom for Mormons?

    Property rights and religious freedom are very real. Doing what YOU want in MY house isn't.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    'Tolerance goes both ways.' - Freedom-In-Danger | 4:04 p.m. Dec. 14, 2011

    Then start! :)

    You cannot tell me that the very same ACTION for one group...

    is suddenly 'wrong' when another group...does the very SAME action!

    That's not 'respect.'

    That is 'selective rights.'

    Also, the main reason the couple WON the tresspassing charges?

    You cannot claim something is 'sacred ground'...

    while, at the SAME TIME...

    claim it is a tourist. Destination.

    You know the sign? The one on 'your turf?'

    It said 'Visitors Welcome.'

    No 'rules' are given to visitors. No 'standards' are described.

    To be fair, you must disclose this BEFORE a person enters your 'sacred ground'.

    Not AFTER.

    Your idea of 'respect' does NOT cover the entire world. My example?


    In other countries, it is perfectly acceptable to smoke in public.

    If a person smokes on Temple? You give them a WARNING. You ensure they are AWARE of the 'respected' practicies you will/will not allow on your sacred ground.

    Don't claim to 'welcome' anyone, at any time, into your 'private property'...

    and THEN claim they have to follow rules you failed to tell them about...

    AFTER, they are broken. :)

  • Freedom-In-Danger WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 4:04 p.m.


    Don't you mean...

    "I would love to visit Temple Square. However, I would choose to disrespect and violate their own freedom to permit only the acts that their moral and religious doctrines uphold... then I would probably be arrested."

    I welcome your right to believe in what you want. Your views are yours. But freedom doesn't demand practicing those beliefs on other people's property. Unless you accept others forcing sacrament meetings to be held at your place. I'd rather support protecting freedom, not disrespecting it.

    Maybe you don't respect my beliefs on my turf... but when I was in the Notre Dame cathedral, I respected their rules that aren't even similar to those of my own religious faith. If I can respect Catholics and their sanctuary, holy places, and so on... and Jews, and Muslims, and your own home and what you allow in it, even if I wasn't allowed in it... then why can't you show me the same respect?

    Tolerance goes both ways. You can't just demand Mormons to be your version of tolerant (meaning they must agree with you) while you parade on their property intentionally provoking people and disrespecting other people's sacred ground.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    *'Reader @Pagan may want to remember that visiting ANY holy site requires you to show respect and tolerance...' - Poqui | 10:57 a.m. Dec. 14, 2011

    Then start.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    atl134, that makes a lot more sense then. Somehow I thought you meant that you were surprised that the Vatican wouldn't be but Temple Square would be. I simply meant that T.S. is in fact a common place visited. Although, my being a Mormon certainly hasn't hindered my desire to see the Vatican. I love art and architecture. I'd go in a heartbeat. I'd go back anywhere to Europe in a heartbeat. lol

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    @A voice of reason
    "it is in fact one of the most visited sites in the world"

    Oh, don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to suggest it wasn't near the top. I'm just surprised that it's essentially tied for number 1 and after some thought I realized that the article doesn't make clear if this is with respect to tourism of Americans or global tourists.

    "With Catholocism being the largest (by far) religion in the U.S., I would have expected the Vatican to be a much more popular religious destination."

    I honestly am having a hard time thinking of any Catholics I know (and both sides of my family history are Catholic and I grew up in Maryland which if I remember right was the Catholic colony) who have been to the Vatican. If this survey is just with regards to American tourists then there's the issue of the Vatican being half a world away whereas SLC is just a couple states away for a large percentage of the population so that could play a role.

  • BH Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    Thrilled to hear that Temple Square is such a popular religious destination. It is a wonderful place with a very special feeling for almost all that visit.

    But I also am very surprised. With Catholocism being the largest (by far) religion in the U.S., I would have expected the Vatican to be a much more popular religious destination.

    Hmmm. I wonder why.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    atl134, it is in fact one of the most visited sites in the world. That doesn't include the Utahn's who visit for temple work, who work at Temple Square, and so on. It really is that visited. The Vatican has a lot of work done there, no? So do our temples. The Vatican does get many visitors, but not as many on vacation, touring, or visiting for other reasons as it does people with business there. Just an fyi.

    als Atheist. I don't care if people call me arrogant for my beliefs, or even being pleased with the work I witness. I generally find the arrogance in the people assigning me such labels. Just some friendly food for thought.

  • als Atheist Provo, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    The most Christian place in the world?


    And you wonder why people bristle and call you arrogant?

  • Poqui Murray, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    Reader @Pagan may want to remember that visiting ANY holy site requires you to show respect and tolerance to the host entity and their beliefs. If Pagan cannot do that then how does Pagan expect anyone to respect their culture and beliefs when they visit their home? Respect and tolerance is a two-way street. Peace.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Dec. 14, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    Interesting how some cannot simply appreciate a nice spot -- they've got to attach conditions, limitations and personal bias. Nothing was mentioned about the potential shootings and suicide bombers in the Holy Land as a potential downside of that tourist spot.

    If Salt Lake and Temple Square scored high, awesome. Can't we just leave it at that, or suggest another spot that might also be considered and why, rather than all of the why nots?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    'Salt Lake City is tied with Israel as the most attractive spot for faith-based travel according to a survey of 1,600 tour operators.' - Article

    I would love to visit Temple Square.

    The lights during Winter and the flowers during summer are very nice. And make the location very inviting.


    *Survey shows some LGBT residents dont feel safe By Rosemary Winters SL Tribune 07/12/10

    'A kiss between two men on the LDS Churchs Main Street Plaza that resulted in trespassing charges.

    *'Crowd turns out for Nationwide Kiss-In' - By James Thalman - Deseret News - 08/16/10

    'The en masse public display of affection was staged to replicate actual incidents in recent weeks in which gay couples in three cities, including Salt Lake City, were detained or arrested by security guards for what the couples say was kissing in public.'

    I would probably...

    be arrested.

    Moderator, the 2nd story was published by your own paper.

  • JRJ Pocatello, ID
    Dec. 14, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    I love SLC - love the Christmas lights, Temple Square, Tabernacle Choir, opportunity to visit and be treated to an inspiring moment in the middle of a bustling city, love the restaurants, the sites, the distance from my home. Yup, a great place to visit.

  • dave31 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    I don't think Mecca is a tourist attraction. It is THE major attraction, however, for Muslim Hadjis.

  • ThinksIThink SEATTLE, WA
    Dec. 13, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    I think it might be even more specific. It's the most popular faith-based tourist destination for American mormons.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 7:46 p.m.

    Yeah I was surprised about that not being on there (or the Vatican) which makes me wonder if this is most popular faith-based tourist destinations...for Americans.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    It's hard to imagine Mecca isn't included on the list.

  • FDRfan safety dictates, ID
    Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    This is the most Christian place during Christmas in the world.