Utah Jazz are giddy over their plethora of post players

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  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    @Joe5, One thing you can count on is CJ's inconsistency, he has been in the NBA long enough to realize his potential, he's pretty good when he's on but 1 good game out of three doesn't cut it. Last year Evans was 10 times the player CJ was in his 1st year. He also tore it up in the Las Vegas instructional all star camp playing with a lot of proven NBA players this past summer.

  • Starbelly Sneech Fielding, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Depth does not win games. It only helps when a player rests or is injured. Only 5 can play at a time. That is why great players are more valuable than a "deep" team of good players. Do the Jazz have 5 who can win? Only if they get better and some of the good players turn into great players.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 6:04 a.m.

    shaybo: With that roster, Evans is most likely to spend time in the D-league or not suited up for most games unless there are injuries. Evans is a freakish athlete but he's not much of a basketball player yet. He's a project.

    I love the kid's attitude and everything else about him except his limited skill set. Let's be realistic. He lacks the offensive skills to play much at SF (a wing position). That means most of his minutes are going to be at PF (a post position). There are two post positions and five guys in front of him. Whose minutes are you going to take away to give to Evans?

    I'm no CJ apologist but CJ has so much more upside than Evans because he does have real basetball skills. And he's still young.

    Last year he took one for the team. They asked him to bulk up so he could play against stronger SFs instead of smaller and weaker SGs. Blame that on Sloan, not CJ. He wasn't out of shape, he was doing what the coaches asked him to do. Obviously, it didn't work out.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Dec. 12, 2011 1:14 a.m.

    im getting excited for Utah...this is what i've been waiting for all this time...im sure Kanter will log few minutes...as he improves...but he needs to at least have 5-10 minutes a game...give the minutes to Favors Millsap and Al Jeff...what we need in a PG is a solid Defender and a pass-first PG...he doesnt really have to score a lot...he just needs to be smart enough and be that extension of the coach on the floor...i hope we get one...this lineup feels solid...all the players need to do...is trust their skills...and improve their game...the sky is the limit for everyone except CJ Miles and Bell...

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 10:06 p.m.

    Sorry Joe5 but Evans needs more than 1 minute, CJ needs to find the bench and stay there on the nights he is playing bad (2 out of every 3).

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Dec. 10, 2011 5:54 p.m.

    Hooray for Hollywood! The Jazz are ready to roll. Favors and Kanter are the "hairs apparent". Jefferson and Millsap are expendable. I would point out that they need a point guard. Guess where one is available who is of all-star capability? Bradley Beal is "one and done" for Florida. He was the Gatorade Player of the Year just like many of the premier stars in the NBA. Basically, that is all that the Jazz need for dominance for the future. I know that the lottery draft is a problem. However, this Beal character is the real deal. He is from St. Louis Chaminade (as is David Lee). I would think that Kevin C should spend his midnight oil figuring out just how to lure Beal to Utah. Indiana also has a player from Missouri on the roster whom the Jazz should seek in the trading of Millsap as great a history as he has with the Jazz. Life must move on.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 5:10 p.m.


    That is a funny one "If Bell and CJ don't impress..."

    You should just say "when Bell and CJ don't impress.."

    Bell was nothing short of bust and I was a believer when we signed him but he was a failure in multiple areas...just a pile of excuses.

    CJ....what else can be said after his 6 season and the last 4 in a row his shooting %'s have declined. He is hot about 1 out of every 8 games. Regardless of that he thinks he is hot every game and hardly plays a lick of defense or uses his ability to get the basket/line. CJ is a joke.

    I'm anxious to watch all our bigs.

    I sure hope Jefferson improved his game because I can't stand him in our offense. Throw the ball in to Jefferson and 4 guys stand and watch him plow through the double and triple teams. They all know the ball is not coming out once it goes in to him. I hope he worked on passing it out of the double teams but fat chance of that.

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:48 p.m.

    Don't get your expectations up with Kanter. He is the equivalent of a HS grad as he did not play college last year, is from Europe, and as such is a complete mystery. I expect very limited minutes with a lot of fouls for at least the first half of the season.

    If Bell and CJ don't impress quickly, then Burkes and Hayward should be given the wing positions with an eye to the future.

    Hopefully, Memo can extend the D with his long range shooting (do we have any other shooters?) so that AJ or Favors can work down low.

    It will be interesting to see how Corbin and this group come together (if they don't it will be another exciting draft in June).

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    I know it's Ty's call but I have things I'd like to see on the depth chart. But I look at it a little differently.

    PG (48 minutes available)
    - Harris (30-35 minutes)
    - Watson (12-15 minutes)
    - Burks or 3rd-stringer (0-6 minutes)

    Wings (96 minutes available)
    - Hayward (30-35 minutes)
    - Miles (25-30 minutes)
    - Burks (15-20 minutes)
    - Millsap (10-15 minutes)
    - Bell, Okur, Kanter, Evans or deep bench (0-16 minutes)

    Post (96 minutes available)
    - Jefferson (30-35 minutes)
    - Favors (25-30 minutes)
    - Millsap (20-25 minutes; 30-40 total with his time on the wing)
    - Okur (10-15 minutes)
    - Kanter (10-15 minutes)
    - Evans (0-1 minute)

    Deep bench means someone who may not even be on the team at this point. This depth chart assumes the following 13-player roster.

    TBD PG

    Lots of discretionary minutes at wing; virtually none in the post. Getting guys minutes in the post is problematic. Jefferson/Favors are stuck there. The other bigs can swing in special cases due to their skills:
    Kanter/Okur: range
    Evans: quickness
    Millsap: mid-range shooting and hard work)

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    I have high hopes for these young players but it will probably take time, to me the weakest position is at the point, I'm not a huge fan of Harris, I hope he plays well, I think CJ has a better attitude about what he needs to do than ever before and so I hope it results in consistency. I am looking forward to Hayward winning the 2 spot, I would love it if Milsap could play the 3 full time but I'm kinda doubting it, certain matchups & part time but it will surprise me if he can play the 3 full time. I hope I'm wrong. CJ will probably end up at the 3. Favors is the player to watch, if he can produce it will make a big difference. My starting line up would be Harris, Hayward, CJ, Favors, Big Al. Milsap as 6th man. I hope Bell doesn't get PT as that would just take time from Hayward/CJ/Burks.

  • fastfox Ogden, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    Am I the only one that thinks the jazz has a very deep team? I know they're pretty young, but it seems like they have at least 2 guys in every position, where you look at teams like the Heat, Knicks, etc and they are pretty thin. Sure they have the stars, but with the condensed schedule I think depth will only help us...and the fact that were young.

    Call me an optimist, but I think the jazz will make the playoffs and surprise a lot of people this season.

    @matt1986 I love the depth chart, though I would put CJ Miles behind Milsap at the 3, and Alec Burks behind Hayward at the 2. i think Burks will be a stud this year. Also Memo is supposed to be back to 100% and he put up good numbers in Europe, so I'd put him 2 at C.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    Injuries will happen and things will change all year. I get a kick out of these people who dictate what MUST happen with the lineup. Last I checked it will be Corbins call. Looking at the team it is really a combination of big guys and the smaller ones. This is the most diverse team I can remember. Lots of Combo players. I believe Tinsley contract is a look see one. He has to make the team. I hope the team carries fourteen players this year because last year when injuries started to pile up they were way short handed that added to theit woes. Should be fun to watch.

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:28 a.m.

    I still don't thinks there is enough talent on the Jazz team to make the playoffs.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:58 a.m.

    I like this SF Paul carter they invited in to camp, kind of reminds me of Glen Rice (from his highlight reels at least). Has a sweet looking outside shot and runs the floor.

    If Milsap is to start it has to be at small forward, Favors is the man.

  • Matt1986 MIDVALE, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 3:46 a.m.

    The Jazz should be really good this season. They might have the deepest front court in the NBA. I want this depth chart:

    PG: Devin Harris, Earl Watson, Jamaal Tinsley
    SG: Gordon Hayward, C.J. Miles, Alec Burks
    SF: Paul Millsap, Jeremy Evans, Alec Burks
    PF: Derrick Favors, Mehmet Okur, Jeremy Evans
    C: Al Jefferson, Enes Kanter, Mehmet Okur

  • Chris from Rose Park PROVO, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 2:02 a.m.

    I'm excited for this season. I get more excited as time goes on. I want to see the guys play. I honestly have no idea how everything will jell together but I hope it's great. I'm hoping for a 4-6 spot in the playoffs. Obviously, I would like more, but I'll be happy with a 4-6.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    The Jazz have a bevy of bigs. Millsap and JEfferson know what to do with the ball. Favors is a quick learner and should pick things up.

    Get after it Jazz