BYU/Utah basketball: Different time, different conference, same feelings in rivalry

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  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Dec. 11, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    Where's Stockton ??? can't accept like my fellow BYU fans that no conference will take us. We are after all riding the coat tails of the WCC. Are we going to make fun of the WCC and its NCAA titles as well?

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 11, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    Night owls quickly learn to eat out of peoples hands I guess Utes and Buffs can be satisfied to ride the coattails of others and live off of them as well.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 10, 2011 9:47 p.m.

    Game predictions?
    My prediction is that BYU fans will still be obsessed with the fact they are not in a major conference.
    You have zip, zero, nothing. Utah joined the Pac 12 which has more NCAA titles than any other conference. You did not get invited. Move on. I know, posters will make fun of sports other than football and basketball. Well if that is the case, kindly ask BYU to remove itself from olympic sports in the WCC. Leave it to BYU fans to set the standard for double standards.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    BYU has won six straight and 10 of the last 11 in the rivalry series. All things relative todays beatdown was as big as in football.... Typical scores in football are 2-7 or 8 points per drive...... In basketball they are only 1-3 points per bucket... So, do the math.... Don't give me any of that nonsense Utah spin that Utah won by more... More points yes... Indeed.... But, have they dominated the series 128-125? I mean seriously.... Get real utes...

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:20 p.m.

    As someone who loves BYU but disliked living in the state of Utah for the few years I was there (much of which had to do with boorish students and fans of other local universities), I cannot share the disappointment of so many of the Utah-based members of Cougar Nation. I love it when the BYU-hater fans' schools lose big. It is a weakness that I hope to get around to working on eventually. Not sure when that will be.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    CougFaninTX - "I'm glad BYU joined the much stronger WCC."'ve got us all believing you.

    gchris - "Learn how to spell Krystkowiak or find a new nickname."

    Coach K Coach K Coach K Coach K Coach K ... it's easy, deal with it.

    Cougarista - "How long before Jordan L. joins Cusick and Sharp?"

    Never...he signed his letter of intent, he'd lose a year or have to use his redshirt to transfer now...not likely.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    PAC-12, the Conference of Champions! I heard it on TV.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    Dec. 10, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    Utah showed they can keep the slow down going the whole game. My bad prediction it took us until 2:30 left in the second half to score 54 points. Guess the Utes wanted to keep the score under 54 to show superiority even if they were only scoring 33.

    If the idea was to get their stalling offense ready for the PAC 10.2 they were able to keep that focus.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    Utah vs BYU rivalry maybe still exists in the minds of some, but in reality it is over since the move to independence and other conferences. Let's quit kidding ourselves. Move on and forget about it as they say in New York. No doubt because Utah is in the PAC-12 they will over time acquire superior athletes; subsequently football and basketball will become somewhat uncompetitive for BYU. It just so happens that Utah is currently "out of business" in the sport of basketball. Basketball is a funny animal with only five players on the court, so it can be more competitive for lesser schools in terms of recruiting. This year Utah has one of the least competitive teams in the history of Utah basketball; quite unusual really.

  • Bluecat82 Minneapolis, MN
    Dec. 10, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    Thank goodness I shelled out a few extra bucks for the Direct TV Sports Package so I can watch this one (and it's on 20 (that's right, TWENTY) different channels on Direct TV)...

    I think it'll be a lot closer than most think...somewhere in the 15-18 point range.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    Let the boys play and forget the predictions. A ute win would truly be an upset -
    that's when a pitiful team beats a much superior team. How long before Jordan L. joins Cusick and Sharp? Coach Krystkowiak's indignation and team rules seem to be very flexible, here today gone tomorrow.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    BYU is missing Jimmer and Jacks, but this year's team is much deeper and more balanced - the Cougars have 6 or 7 players who could go off for 20+ points on any given night.

    Utah may not be as good as BYU's one-win 1997 team.

    The Utes MIGHT keep the game close for a little while if they're hitting outside shots early, but in the end, I expect an easy 20+ point win by the Cougars.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2011 9:26 a.m.

    This game will be different than last years. There won't be a Jimmer who goes off for 47 points this year. Watching the Cougars I see a very balanced scoring attack and a lot of good shooters. The emergence of Nate Austin will take a lot of pressure off of Davies and gives them more inside depth. Interesting that Utah's leading score who was suspended Monday was re-instated just before this game. That will help but it won't be enough against a very good B.Y.U. team. My prediction: B.Y.U. 88 Utah 63.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    BYU 54 Utah 10 at half time.

  • IA Cougar West Des Moines, IA
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:53 a.m.

    Living in Iowa, this is where the Pac12 TV contract kills BYU fans who will not see this game without a sports bonus/platinum (or whatever it's called) package to even get the Pac12 on Directv. I'll listen in on KSL radio and enjoy the fact that almost ALL BYU games are on TV this year thanks to BYUTV and ESPN! Go Cougs. Hope the Utes can assemble a team in the near future. BBall for them is painful and needs to Rise UP!

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    Utes will play unprofessionally and lose any sense of class in this one as they lose big.

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:31 a.m.

    "The team from Provo" whatever, I wish we could call what is currently in Salt Lake a "team" How about if that hodge podge from Salt Lake shows up and brings their A game, they might just make it within 20 points.

  • Itchy Lehi, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    Last time I checked, Vegas had BYU as 22 point favorites so I think an upset is highly unlikely. It's sad how far Utah basketball has fallen, but I have faith that they can rise up again in the next few years.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:49 a.m.

    @ I still can't say it

    You have to be a DN plant. And, by the way, Coach K, at last report was still coaching at Duke. Learn how to spell Krystkowiak or find a new nickname.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:38 a.m.

    Utah has not even covered a spread this year. With BYU a 22.5 point favorite, it looks like oddsmakers finally caught up to how bad Utah is (Harvard was only favored by 14.5).

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:35 a.m.

    I watched the news last night and only saw one station even report on this game. Funny how the local media only reports on the big "rivalry" game when it appears Utah has the stronger team. When the utes are in the tank, they report nothing. In fact Fox did a report about gymnastics but nothing about basketball.

    Hilarious stuff.

    It is sad how far utah basketball has fallen.

    Good thing they are in the pac12. They might actually have a chance to win a game but I doubt it.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 10, 2011 7:03 a.m.

    I Still Can't Say It 9:20pm Dec 9 2011
    Holladay, UT, said this:

    " ...I'm predicting an upset tomorrow night ..."

    If you tune in "tomorrow night" you might miss the "upset". The beat down will be played at 11am. Oh wait, there's always a re-run on BYU TV.

    BYU - 104
    utah - 38

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 6:36 a.m.

    Hey selway,

    In defense of Colorado, they were involved in big boy conference football (Big 8 and Big 12) long before Utah even dreamed about playing in its two BCS games.

    And wait for it... they were Co-National Champions in 1990.

    Simply here for the money and it made sense to move since the Big 12 was imploding.

    The real question is why did Utah get invited?

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Dec. 10, 2011 6:03 a.m.

    Utah should just send a fax of surrender. I am one BIG Ute fan but this is a year for practice!!! Not games...but the words of the famous A Iverson...oh yeah!!!! And some recruiting! Oh...and a new AD!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    I Still Can't Say It ,

    Somebody spiked your kool-aid.

  • che loco Springville, UT
    Dec. 10, 2011 12:06 a.m.

    Cougs by 30+. This game is already decided.

  • selway Paul, Idaho
    Dec. 9, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    Yea and the Vandels demolished them in Corvalis and Wyoming is 9-1. With all the braging of the Ute fans about the pac 12 how did a weak team like Colorado get in the conference?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 9, 2011 11:07 p.m.

    How bad is the PAC12 at BB this year?

    Idaho demolishes Oregons State today. This is the same Idaho team that lost to Long Beach St, Montana, and Eastern Washington.

    Wyoming beats up Colorado.

    Ute trolls continue to hype the Conference of Chumpions, but this could be a one team bid to the NCAA this year. The only good news is once they get into conference play, one of the teams has to get a win.

    I'm glad BYU joined the much stronger WCC.

    I know you can throw out the record most years when rivals play each other, but this year is the exception to the rule. It will be a Cougar blowout.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 9, 2011 10:46 p.m.

    I'm really interested to see what utah's "best effort" is?

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Dec. 9, 2011 10:19 p.m.

    Isn't it funny how Watkins gets reinstated from an indefinite suspension so soon after the utes get their worst spanking ever and BYU is coming up?

    It's too bad Josh Sharp won't get to play after the ute coach and fans cried so hard when he decided to transfer to BYU and get out of a bad scene at Utah.

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Dec. 9, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    byu 103 utes 36

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    Dec. 9, 2011 10:00 p.m.

    I'm thinking first half score BYU 54 - Utah 10, but the moral victory that Chris B. will bring from this is Utah will come back in the second half with a three pointer to start the half. But still final score will be BYU 93 - Utah 41.

    Not a hater just a realist.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    With so many new players and freshmen on both teams, it'll be interesting to see whether either team can match the intensity of years past.

    Cal State's 31-point beatdown of the Utes may be tough to match with Jiggy back for the Utes, but, curiously, BYU has already beaten the Utes by 31 points a couple of times, just not in the SLC

    1965 BYU 98 Utah 67, in Provo
    1994 BYU 96 Utah 65, in WAC tourney

    BYU nows leads the all-time series
    BYU 127
    Utah 125

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    Dec. 9, 2011 9:20 p.m.

    Most people will think I'm nuts -- but I'm predicting an upset tomorrow night. The Utes men's team will beat BYU.

    A couple of reasons, the Utes will be pumped to beat their hated rival. On the other hand, the team from Provo will completely overlook the Utes. The blue team probably didn't even practice for the game and will be in for a big surprise.

    Coach K knows how important the rivalry game is. The Utes will come out playing harder then they ever have and beat the team from Provo. It will be epic.

    Utes 49 BYU 45

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2011 9:19 p.m.

    I don't think it will come down to the first two minutes in this game. Hopefully BYU doesn't come out flat. However, it might not matter in the W/L column if they do, only the margin of victory.

  • IndianaCoug Bloomington, IN
    Dec. 9, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    Rivalry games are always pretty exciting but I don't think it's going to come down to the last two minutes for this one. It will be nice to see how our backups do. Go Cougs!