BYU, Weber State basketball: Cougars clamp down on Damian Lillard, rout Wildcats

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  • I Love Lamp Layton, UT
    Dec. 9, 2011 6:03 p.m.

    Yeah, that comment wasn't the best thing Randy could have said. However, WSU was without TWO starters in the game. Missing their top rebounder in Bullinger and then lost their second-best rebounder in the opening minutes. He didn't get back on the court. They were already smaller, but stood no chance against BYU's bigs after losing those two.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:07 p.m.

    Do I recall someone referring to Weber State as the best team in Utah? It seems like that someone was anticipating a blow-out when BYU and WSU played last night. That someone got that part right, but I don't think the rout happened as that someone predicted.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    Rahe is neither gracious in defeat or informed on the age of his players. He will probably keep looking for any answer other than the correct one - Weber State played a better team.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    Well well well, guess Weber State isn't the best B-ball team in the state. I've just sent some wine and cheese up to Coach Rahe so his Christmas isn't totally ruined by this shellacking. haha.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    Best comment in this article: "BYU faces another in-state opponent on Saturday when the Cougars visit Utah." The use of the "opponent" in this sentence is funny.

  • deth Orem, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    Can we get Steve Cleveland back to call the games? I can't stand hearing Blaine Fowler commentary.

  • Big Pappy west jordan, utah
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Watched the replay of the Cougars vs. Wildcat game after I got home (early) from the Ute Debacle. What a contrast between these two teams. The Utes are a mess and the Cougars looked like they were in mid season form already. The Utes need a Center, along with two guards and two forwards. Other than that they looked pretty good!

    I will be there on Saturday and I expect another Blowout. Utah 53 Byu 6...Hundred.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    I think we should definitely buy out the HC on Saturday afternoon..... Would be fun to see the sea of red seats filled with a sea of blue shirts/jackets/what-not. Very good idea! If the same 7671 show up on Saturday how many seats does that leave for us coug fans?

  • RonBergundy SANDY, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    Rahe Rahe Rahe. If you want, you too can recruit kids that walk around and sit on peoples couches for two years and either gain 20 pounds or lose 20 pounds and now have to use Rogaine. Just accidentally drop a Book of Mormon out of your bag when you go into their homes on recruiting trips. Maybe stay for Family Nights. You guys can be old too

  • Triple B Milford, NH
    Dec. 8, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Don't know if anyone still calls Weber State - Harrison High School anymore but it semms fitting again today.

  • bleeding purple Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 8, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    Tough game Wildcats ... but on a brighter note, David Patten's announcing was the best! Keep it going Patten!

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    lost all respect for Rahe when he went with the "old" excuse. How about BYU players are just better than Weber players. And Rose is better than you.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    Offense really came to life both inside and outside but I was most impressed with their defense. A few mistakes but very solid. I am looking forward to seeing them play Baylor now. This is going to be another very good year for BYU basketball.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    It seems excuses are pretty common place at weber. If rahe is whining about missing Bullinger then BYU can just come back that they are missing Collinsworth so that's a push. But the truth is the better team is the team that can replace what they have missing and not skip a beat. With Bullinger gone weber had what to replace him? With Collinsworth out of action BYU just brings in Austin and he tears it up.

    Better teams have better depth and BYU is obviously far and away the better team.

    Oh and PGVikingDad nice job refuting the other one of rahe's whiney excuses. weber is older on average than BYU and had the oldest player on the floor starting for them.


  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    >"They're big, they're strong, and they're old."

    That's what people say about me, but they usually replace "big" and "strong" with "slow" and "bald."

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    I, too, can't believe Rahe went for the stale "These guys are OLD" excuse. Here are the facts, coach: Average age of BYU starter = 21.4; average Weber starter = 21.6. Also, Weber State has 5 freshmen on their squad, while BYU has NINE. Finally, the oldest player on the court all night started for Weber State (Darin Mahoney, age 25). BYU opponents need a new excuse.

  • BYU_Greg South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 9:06 a.m.

    When I heard their coach say "They're big, they're strong and they're old." on the radio in the post game, it bugged me.

    Then he went on to answer a reporter's question "what was your game plan" with something like "to have a full team" implying his excuse for losing was not that he got dominated by a much better team, but that he was "short handed."

    Their coach sounded conceited, and very much the poor loser.

    Bad form, coach. Bad form.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    Jimmer didn't have the answer to 6th players at USU student section when he lost that game in Logan. His advise was insightfull for our young team. Now we don't have to push too hard for our next oponent against our neighbor up north at Salt Lake. Do I hear Carlino being ready yet for next week?

    Dec. 8, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Can't wait to see how the Cougars do against Baylor. That will be a big test and hopefully they do better than they did against Wisconsin.

    "Old" players? That canard has been around too long. If it's such an advantage, what happened the year they won 1 game? Obviously, they were too old to compete.

  • cork Murray, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    "They're old"? Eight or nine freshman on the floor is old? Why do these coaches persist with their pathetic excuses for losing to BYU? The jet lag comment makes more sense! Good one!

    Glad to see these guys starting to jell. Fun to watch. And other than the downside of putting good money into the Utah coffers we ought to buy the place out on Saturday to watch the team put a REAL hurt on the mighty PAC 12.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 8:13 a.m.

    @Whoa Nellie

    I agree, the black uniforms have to go. They need to go back to their classic purple road uniforms.

    To the rest: I don't know why you are bothered about the "old" comment, Rahe was just pointing out the maturity and delvelopment advantage. I guess the term length is the new word for height, but the Wildcats couldn't overcome that disparity.

    Wildcats need Bullinger back ASAP, and Mahoney, Treznik, and Otis need to learn how to play the inside game against taller opponents, otherwise Lillard and Bamforth will be smothered.

    Hopefully, they can regroup. I think both teams will make the tourney. Good luck the rest of the way.

  • Unlucky HEBER CITY, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    Coach Rahe BYU couldn't have anyone older than Darrin Mahoney, he's 25, maybe he's too old.

  • JustintimeY Boise, Id
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:40 a.m.

    This team is starting to come together and jell at the right time. It great to see guys like Zylstra and Nate Austin play well. Noah and Abouo have come to play every game if Davis can play more like he did tonight and continue to get better this could be a fun team to watch!

  • Griz Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:37 a.m.

    "they're old"??? Why don't you blame it on the biased WCC officials or that your team was suffering from jet-lag having to travel all the way down from Ogden?

    are you going to complain about the unfair advantage that byu coaches who are returned missionaries have as well?


  • 6'8 Lehi, Utah
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:34 a.m.

    That game may have been more fun to watch than Fredette pouring in 40+ last year. To see the entire team shoot lights out and play suffocating defense was really fun. Austin is extremely impressive, 6'10, athletic, coordinated, and extremely aggressive. He's going to be a franchise player in the years to come.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 7:22 a.m.

    I think that maybe Dave Rose should of had some more mercy on Weber State and actually should have started calling fans down from the stands to play.

  • generalM Frannie, WY
    Dec. 8, 2011 5:23 a.m.

    Dear Coach Rahe: Re: "They're big, they're strong, and they're old." We prefer "mature."

  • Realistic Goggles Alpine, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 4:21 a.m.

    BYU looked really good tonight but I was very impressed with Lillard. Although he didn't put up great numbers, the guy is a baller and he deserves whatever praise he gets.

  • Tyler McArthur South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 1:23 a.m.

    Great job Cougars! Now it's finally time for Utah. Let's try to get more Cougar fans than Utes at the Huntsman Center on Saturday. Who's with me?!

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:51 a.m.

    Nice win by the Cougars. Looks like the argument about best team in the state should be revamped to who has the best home court advantage. Probably USU has the best court advantage as long as the students are allowed to act without dignity or self-respect. For now the title of best team has to go to BYU. Once BYU found the basket on Wednesday night the game turned into an example of total domination by the home team.

    Parting thought: Weber State, you need to get new uniforms. Those black rags you wore last night are ugggglyyyy!

  • goodDr. sandy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2011 12:11 a.m.

    Diagnosis-patient is thriving, unlike the failure to thrive and life support for the team on the hill. See you there on Saturday. Tickets shouldn't be too hard to get.