A Guy With A Brain,Most people would not classify FOX News as the
liberal media. They beat up Romney every day. They constantly rail on his
"flip flopping" and give Newt a pass on his "flip flops" and
extra marital affairs. This not a liberal conspiracy, this is a right wing
Republican conspiracy. The Tea Party and FOX News don't want Mitt, and they
with Grover Nordquist speak for today's Republican Party.
Trump doesn't understand why Romney can't get enough traction to clinch the GOP
nomination?Here', I'll help him. It's called "the liberal
mainstream media purposely mis-characterizes Romney and spreads lies about him
at every turn because he actually has the character and skills to turn this
country around and the liberals who control much of our government and country
don't want that."There, that was easy.....
Both Mr Trump and Gingrich have a love for egotism and it is hard to see them
patting their own backs in front of millions of people, if the debate actually
goes on. Mr. Trump would fire everyone as his own ego is that strong and Newt's
debacles in the past have led him to believe he doesn't have excess baggage and
that his intelligence will overcome his morality issues. He was a Congressman
and was never a statesman. These two men deserve each other and it would be
interesting to see who is fired from the debate.
More conspiracies to contemplate..Was our President born in the United
States?Who really killed President Kennedy?What actually happened at
Roswell, New Mexico?What is the status of Donald Trump's hair?
Joke candidates or Joke Debate. Debates should not show partiality; Mr. Trump
already endorsed Newt Gingrich, didn't he? We need a leader who
will admit there is no solution for our many problems, nor true freedom in our
lifestyle of lifetime employment. It is glorified slavery. We position our
lives so there is little to do but work to pay bills we would not have if we
followed God's wisdom.Only living off the land can stop extinction
for polluting our air, land, water and food already making young and old
diseased. God guided all people in their holy books to trust Him and not seek
riches and honors. The way is prepared to bring in a government based on God's
written wisdom in the Bible; but we must ask for it. We cannot solve our
problems with the same lifestyle that caused them. God asks us to choose
between life and death, and guides us to choose life.
You all dont get it on these comments.Ethics dont mean anything these
days.Newt will cruah bho in the debates.The gop folks wont a person
with teeth to crush the obama.
People open your eyes. The republican party if it had any honesty would put up
a sign that said Mormons not wanted, except of course for your votes for our
candidates and our policies. Why can't Mitt gain any traction? It is not the
flip flop problem, he is politician and businessman, that by nature makes him a
flip flopper. The republicans play the flip flop card because they don't have
the courage to play the religion card. Why would you be so blindly devoted to a
group who's leaders still refer to you as a cult. Did the darling of FOX News
Mike Huckabee ever retract his cult statement in the last election cycle? How
can the party of the family now be close to nominating a man who has been
married 3 times and had affairs during the first two marriages over Mitt?
Because the would rather have an serial adulterer than a Mormon for a candidate.
If you think about all of the weird things that have been happening in the GOP
presidential race, it is easy to see that Romney is the only solid candidate.
He is the only candiadate who has consistently shown himself to be Presidential
material - in terms of his personal life, his career, and his public service.
@paperboy111:The Denocratic Party IS NOT "a much better home for LDS
voters" - look what they did to Lieberman, who was one of their own.
Either because he was not liberal enough or (hopefully not) because of his
religion, the Democrats ran a candidate against him and he had to run as an
independent to keep his seat. If you join the Democratic party prepare to be
ostracized if you stand for the right to life or for traditional marriage.I do agree that that the "Christina Right" in the Republican Party
have not been fair to the LDS. But hopefully they will not prevail - too many
voters see through their intolerance (although unfortunately some share that
I've said this time and time again, the LDS faithful electorate would do well to
separate themselves from their tight relationship with the Republican Party. The
Democratic Party is a much better home for LDS voters than the Republican Party,
which includes celebrities like Donald Trump and wingnuts like Ron Paul.
Trump has a new book coming out. Hence his threat to run for president.I find his nasty comments about Gov Huntsman and Rep Paul more about Trump
than about the candidates, since they chose not to participate in his 'debate'.
"I hope that Trump does run as an independent -- although he likely
wouldn't win the election, it will destroy any chance the republicans may have
had to win the election."Ms Molli: So what you're really
saying, is that your Boy doesn't have a chance unless the vote is split. And
there is no doubt about that, is there.
What's wrong with this newspaper? Total Republican, and doesn't like fair
criticism of the annointed party. This field of candidates is a joke. Led now
by Trump? Are you kidding me?
What is it about Donald Trump?Does he have "dirt" on everyone?
Does he have some of their money tied up? Has he threatened o go after their
wives and daughters?Quite difficult trying to figure out the power this
sleezy individual holds over so many "important people" and
Trump said that "a lot of Republicans, top Republicans, asked me to do the
debate." And he also said that if he isn't satisfied the GOP is putting up
a viable candidate against President Barack Obama, "I would certainly think
about running as an independent."============Yah.
Is that like, "I have a lot of investigators on the ground in Hawaii who've
been hearing some interesting things" regarding Obama's birth certificate?
He's so grossly narcissistic, and so clueless. Who does he think he is to be
the anointer of the GOP candidate? WHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS. What
is happening to the Republican party??
Traction in this article is the key word. However, all the speculating and
bashing of Romney or Mormons does not fit the new method of politicing that is
occurring in this primary season. Never has there been a primary season where so
many debates are being held which offers(for good or ill) so many candidates
with so little money and resources a chance to stay in the race because of all
the free time. The method until this election has been: raise money(lots of it),
meet,greet and avoid the biases of the national media or fight them with 30
second candidate ads. Now a potential nominee can lose his or her staff, run
while in debt or little cash and stay viable up to weeks before the
primaries/caucases start. Now however, organization, funding and ideas(whether
we like a candidate or not) will start to come out. Beyond the snipits used by
the media to push their horse in the race. Looking at this new method has
benefitted the Huntsman,Santorum,Bachmann group but reality is fast approaching
in the new process. The media doesn't understand this process yet either when
@ Pagan: You have called me a liar, but I never said that Obama was going to say
anything about Romney's religion as you have suggested. So I guess you are the
liar. Would you like me to cite your post in which you said this? As to why I
didn't cite those comments from Colbert & Maher, well it's simply because it
isn't necessary. Most people are either familiar with those comments, or ones
like them from other liberals. Besides, I grow tired of your posts where all you
do is cite references. Many times I fail to even find a point in your posts. But
if you insist on references, then please tell me where a candidate from this
election made negative comments about Romney's religion.
Trump claims to be moderate conservative than disses Huntsman as a joke
candidate? I don't know where Trump stands anymore.
In my opinion we have misplaced loyalties here in Utah We support
the conservative right wing of the Republican party nationally and yet many of
them consider us cultists.I am not saying that we should simply vote
for someone because of their religion.I would not vote for Romney
but I do take offense when people bad mouth him and Huntsman because of their
religion.I feel that there is a sizeable segment in the Republican
party who belong to the "Any one but Romney" camp.
@My Humble Opinion"I have heard some liberals make negative
comments regarding Romney's faith however. Stephen Colbert, and Bill Maher, to
name a few."Um... Stephen Colbert is a fictional character
played by Stephen Colbert. He mocks everyone and everything. It's a comedy show
and the segment was good natured and if anything kinda was more supportive of
Mormons than opposed. I'll give you Maher but you're really missing the boat on
Colbert. @PaganHe's talking about this articleStephen Colbert jests about 'weird' Mormons; Bill Maher's Mormon opinion
'absurd'By Joseph Walker, Deseret News Published: Wednesday, Aug. 17, 2011
11:51 a.m. MDT
@My humble opinion"And if you think the republicans have been
hard on Romney, the Democrats would likely be much worse. "Do
you really thing that team Obama, who has spent years with people attacking
Reverand Wright and making up religious affiliations (atheist, muslim) that he's
supposedly part of wants to get in a religion fight?
But seriously, folks. How did it come to this, in a nation like America, where
we are going to 'The Donald' to get HIS blessing on who should run the country?
The train has seriously gone off the tracks.
@PaganSome of the most rotten comments about Huntsman and Romney's
faith have come from the left. Not just political commentators but liberal
Hollywood people. Robin Williams is notoriously anti-Mormon. David Cross is
another one that is pretty bad. I would agree that the far right is
pretty ruthless to Mormons. Having talked to MANY people who are part of the
conservative Christian right, I believe that their comments are just pure
ignorance. The left, however, makes awful comments and parody that is based
purely in hatred of all religion.
'I have heard some liberals make negative comments regarding Romney's faith
however. Stephen Colbert, and Bill Maher, to name a few. And yes, I'm pretty
sure they are Obama supporters.' - My Humble Opinion | 3:32 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011
So, your NOT sure. You DON'T have a date and quote. And, as you put it: 'They are not running for
president.' You refuse to do any 'leg work.' Because you
don't have a point. Only, speculation. It is not MY job,
to support your wild accusation that Obama has said ANYTHING about Mitt Romney's
faith. But, I guess lying is part of the deal, right?
*'First Romney TV ad blasts Obama' - By Mercedes White, Deseret News -
11/22/11 'It appears that in that instance, Obama was quoting an
aide to then-2008 opponent Sen. John McCain (sic) That might be beside the point
though because...' Everything that you CANNOT prove, that is NOT
factual is... besides the point. It is truly disgusting
to watch people try to JUSTIFY making things up.
NONE of the Republican candidates ought to be attending Mr. Trumps's charade of
a debate. Most likely he'll just be using them to start his own
campaign!check today's column by Michelle Malkin to find out the
TRUTH behind the "debate".The "Donald" does
nothing for anyone EXCEPT the "Donald".
@ Pagan: Neither Robert Jeffress nor any host of Fox News is running for
President. Jeffress is backing Perry, but Perrry (to my knowledge) has not made
any comments ragarding Romney's faith. I have heard some liberals make negative
comments regarding Romney's faith however. Stephen Colbert, and Bill Maher, to
name a few. And yes, I'm pretty sure they are Obama supporters. If you think
Romney's faith would not be mentioned by liberals during a general election,
then you are kidding yourself. And I'm not going to bother doing the leg work on
those references, because you've proven yourself capable of googling those
Mc | 1:54 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 West Jordan, UT Trump is a joke, way too
full of himself. Gingrich will tell him what he wants to hear and get his
endorsement. I doubt Romney will pander to him.@MC, oh how people
quickly forget! Don't you recall the recent meeting Romney had with Trump !!!!
Even the DN posted an article about its occurrence. Guess that was something
other than "pandering" him??
cbird | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 Sandy, Ut"Why does anyone care
what Trump thinks? Is it because of his money?"Cbird,I hate to break it to you, but MONEY is the only reason anyone is listening to
Mitt Romney OR Jon Huntsman, too!
'And if you think the republicans have been hard on Romney, the Democrats would
likely be much worse.' - My Humble Opinion | 1:47 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011
I, disagree. *'Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd,
Deseret News - 07/17/11 *'Rick Perry backer decries Mitt Romney,
Mormons' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar, Deseret News - 10/08/11
"(Robert) Jeffress described Romney's Mormon faith as a 'cult,' and said
evangelicals had only one real option in the 2012 primaries. ... Asked by
Politico if he believed Romney is a Christian, Jeffress answered:
'No.' " Does Fox News or Robert Jeffress represent
Obama? No. They do not. And yet: *'President
Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire,
pundits say' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 08/10/11 The CLAIM that
Obama is talking about Mitt Romney's faith is CONTINUED to be perpetuated. How about this? Would you please be willing to FIND a quote
from Obama about Mitt Romney's faith? Not just the claim. I can't find any. Anywhere. Go ahead!
I'll wait.... (And I mean a FACTUAL quote. Not something McCain
Trump is a joke, way too full of himself. Gingrich will tell him what he wants
to hear and get his endorsement. I doubt Romney will pander to him.Google a Gingrich article in Esquire Magazine in 2010. It gives a lot of info
on Gingrich that will surprise most people. The Obama cmpaign will not hesitate
to bring it all out and Obama will win easily. We have to nominate
Mitt Romney if we want to beat Obama in November. There is no dirt for the Obama
campaign or the media to dig up on Romney. The fact that some companies that
Bain Capital took over were downsized or sold off is more a plus than a minus.
Shows Romney will get rid of government agencies that are wasteful or unneeded.
Gingrich is not a person of moral, fiscal or political character. We
will be sorry if we nominate him.Read Romney's book and website if
you really want to know him.
Mr. Trump loves to hear himself talk....
@ Iron Rod: Are you saying we should vote for religious affiliation instead of
party affiliation?And if you think the republicans have been hard on
Romney, the Democrats would likely be much worse.
'I hope that the Utah Republicans remember all the disrespect heaped on Romney
and Huntsman from the extreme right wing of the party when election time
arrives.' - Iron Rod | 1:33 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 THANK you! Because if the Republican party is so 'great'... *'Trump on
Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation -
03/30/11 Then why do they use the SAME attacks of FICTION on
Romney? *'Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd,
Deseret News - 07/17/11 As Fox News: *'Fox News Parent
News Corp. Gives $1 Million to GOP' - by Brian Montopoli - CBS News -
04/17/10 has attacked the 'Christianity' of BOTH Mitt Romney AND
I hope that Trump does run as an independent -- although he likely wouldn't win
the election, it will destroy any chance the republicans may have had to win the
I hope that the Utah Republicans remember all the disrespect heaped on Romney
and Huntsman from the extreme right wing of the party when election time
arrives.We should not just vote for a candidate because he or she
has a R in front of their name on the ballot.
I actually think that Trump is in Romney's camp. I think that Gingrich is going
to be the GOP's biggest problem, because he cannot beat Obama, yet for some
reason, the conservative right is looking past all of his personal and political
flaws. I find this fascinating.
donald is a perfect whats wrong with america. he lost a fortune of other peoples
money on the new jersey investment and he came out with money and many others
now have nothing. he has values but no principles, morality, or class.
In the interview, Trump also labeled Rep. Ron Paul and former ambassador Jon
Huntsman as "joke candidates," Any candidate with any
morals would not accept an invitation to Trump's debate when said moderator says
something like that against a fellow candidate. Trump is the joke, and if no
one showed up, that would be awesome! Then we could watch him throw a childish
Why does anyone care what Trump thinks? Is it because of his money?
Listen up Mr. Trump, Mitt Romney is holding his own quite well and has been at
the top of the race with or without your support. As of today, Mitt Romney tops
the GOP Gallup Poll as "Top Contender". Romney is consistently strong
in all debates, most presidential, most qualified, and ranks as most favorable
Calling any of the republican contenders "joke candidates" is really
rich coming from Trump. And IMO, Gingrich speaking favorably of Trump costs him
points as well. I think the repubican candidates are right to stay away from
his debate. It's probably goning to be full of "gotcha" questions; he
just wants to make himself look better and thinks he can do that by making them
look bad. He's just looking to collect press time.
We can diss Trump all we want, but he's right, Mitt isn't getting good traction.
Yeah, I know. Not so much in Utah. But his party in general seems to keep
looking for a more likable contender.
Talk about "joke" candidates.....
Poor Trump. His over sized ego is suffering because most republican candidates
are not accepting his invitation to debate with himself as moderator. Who can
blame them. He is hardly the most neutral person to moderate a debate. It is
hard to have much respect of the man.
After this: *'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says
He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11 I don't hold Donald Trump's
opinion in high regard. As: *'Obamas to attend church
for Easter Sunday' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 04/11/09 And 'yes', that DID happen more than two years before Trump made the
foolish claim. A 'succesful' business man... shouldn't
file for bankrupcy... four times. *'Donald Trump's
Companies Filed for Bankruptcy 4 Times' - By AMY BINGHAM - ABC News - 04/21/2011
Why does Trump look like a grump? I think he's upset because he's not running
anymore, and will find something to criticize about any possible person. We saw
it when he was hitting on Obama, and others, until his whole case of Obama's
birth certificate imploded.