Cougs run away with it

BYU overcomes lackluster first half, explodes for rout over hawaii

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  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Dec. 5, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    The difference between good teams and great teams is the depth of their bench. That's been the killer for BYU for a lot of years. We have had some really good players on first string, but there wasn't anybody on second string. This is what kills us in basketball. We have good starters, but no bench.

    Happy for the win in Hawaii. I'm glad they pulled it off. Riley is a good interview. He totally credits the team in all victories. I thought for sure he would get popped just right because of his aggressive play, but that's probably what kept him in the game. Awesome.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Dec. 5, 2011 7:04 a.m.


    The Utes have an injured QB, RB, WR, OL, etc.

    The Cougies are back to the WAC. The Idaho, Idaho St., New Mexico St., Hawaii, Utah State games prove it.

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:01 p.m.

    Utah is a conference (an automatic qualifier or BCS conference) that is perceived better by pollsters (sports media and coaches polls) than what BYU schedule has. This year BYU was beaten by Utah 54-10 in our stadium. If BYU had a 9-3 season in PAC or Big 12 conference, BYU would be ranked in the top 25 and would be going to a better bowl payout than as independent. Why BYU isn't invited into PAC 12, big12, and Big East hasn't been disclosed beyond speculation because of its 8 year ESPN contract. Doesn't ESPN have tv contracts with other teams and conferences? What is BYU ESPN contract worth? Is it the same as Notre Dame with NBC or Texas 20 year $300 million contract with ESPN? Supposedly Texas in the Big 12 doesn't shares it espn revenue with the conference.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 4, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    Jenny 8,

    BYU played an injured QB who hasn't played for a few weeks, and only started a few games.

    Admit it, the utes were over rated. The Washington State and Colorado games are proof.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 4, 2011 4:50 p.m.

    Jenny 83
    Irrelevent... injuries are part of the game...That's why you recruit for depth...That's why backups are put in to gain experience when they are blowing out opponents...That's why Backups dress for games...thats why they practice every day before games....and it's football for another good reason...because the ball isn't round. Until people like you understand all of that you will never fully understand football. Who cares if Hawaii was starting it's backup QB...that's the whole point... it's part of the game. You go with what you've got.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    B - Hawaii was playing there back up qb who got his first start this game. Not the same. But Byu's backup in and it's a different story.

  • B Centerville, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 3:09 p.m.


    They played that game in Las Vegas. Hawaii is much tougher at home. In fact, they were tough enough at home to beat Colorado by 17 points. I realize that beating Colorado at home is no big deal. Everyone does that, right?

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    I loved this game - Hawaii gave it an all out effort. Very tough D line. Nelson was amazing - and lucky. But a great player makes is own luck and Nelson looked pretty great to me. The 2nd half BYU defense was a 180 from the first half. Takes effort to win and Hawaii gave it plenty of effort. Records aside, it was a good win. It would have been easy to lose this one.

    As for Heaps - calm down kid and wait your turn.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    UNLV also beat Hawaii by 20 this year. Just sayin...

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    @Mountanman 10:29

    You said - "If Utah wins, its because they are so talented!"

    What does it mean then when Utah loses? Like say at home to Colorado, a team which finished dead last in the PAC-12, in a game that if the Utes had won, would have landed them in the first ever the PAC-12 Championship game with a chance to play in the Rose Bowl.

    Wait for it. Wait for it.

    Yes I know Ute fans, "54-10" right? "54-10."

    Sorry Ute fans, you can't spends months and months demeaning BYU and its football team, demanding to find a "new and better" rival in the PAC-12, only to return to demeaning BYU when your dreams of a PAC-12 title and BCS national championship don't pan out.

  • TaipeiModerate New Haven, CT
    Dec. 4, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    We are drawing Houston in the bowl according to ESPN. We will truly see if BYU can finish strong against a top 10 team.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Dec. 4, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    If BYU wins, it was because they had a bad opponent. If Utah wins, its because they are so talented!

  • dfoke05 Menifee, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    Yes, Bronco still has a good winning record beating teams they should.

    Still want to see him coach his teams to a better winning percentage in the "big games". BCS teams, Utah, TCU, BSU, etc...

    I guess I am in the minority as to where I do not accept 10 win seasons all the time.

    could be worse I guess.

  • SoUtBoy25 Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Love him or hate him, Riley is a gamer and should be the starting QB next. Not sure why everyone thinks Heaps should transfer. If he does he will have to sit out a year and compete in a whole new system. Also, Riley has just what Heaps needs. Why not sit out a year learn some leadership from Riley and compete for the starting job at a place where he knows the system the following year. It worked for Jimmy Mac.

  • kokua KAYSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Riley obtained redemption for his freshman year pounding he and the Aggies suffered at the hands of the Hawaii Warriors.

    Pay back can be delicious !

    Where are all the comments about how Riley was going to be pounded, battered, smashed by the Warriors ? It is all crickets now.

    Yes as Riley quiets his detractors is truly delicious indeed !

  • The Dixie Kid Saint George, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    Let's just play Utah again for our bowl game. This time we would win big.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    BYU fans

    We need to be happy, but come on if you are a fan you can't be thrilled that we have only beaten only 1 team with a winning record this year. Stop with this was a "good win" or "a great win Cougs". And if anyone besides myself did not think that Heaps was leaving BYU, after yesterday that can be put to rest. He is gone!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    It's always nice to come on to a BYU article after a particularly good performance and hear the empty(of Y haters) echo on the comment boards. Nelson put in a very good performance against an average Hawaii team.
    Heaps will be very lucky to win the starting position next year. I hope he stays and competes through next Fall and red-shirts if he does not win the position but it would not surprise me if he ends up at a PAC school next Spring. Either way, he has matured quite a bit and should be able to do very well wherever he ends up. I still think he will be an excellent D1 QB and will at least get his shot in the NFL.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    "At halftime we kind of got mad. Riley gave us a little speech." Let's face it, I can't see Heaps doing to same thing to rally the troops/team. Heaps is as good as gone next season, and I'm fine with that. Without a doubt, Nelson gets this team to perform; he gets positive results. I don't see Jake putting in all the work that he'll undoubtedly put in to be a back-up again. This was a very good, solid win for the Cougs. Playing the Warriors over on their turf is never easy. Good job, Cougs. Excellent game, Riley!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    Sorry drudge
    Dude...beating Oregon in BB doesn't count for football...still holding at 9-3!!!

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    I want to play Utah with Riley Nelson. Seriously...

  • FreeMan Heber City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    The turning point is an interesting play. Nelson is in the grasp and throws the duck to Hoffman. The rest is history. Just think if the duck was intercepted, as it usually is when QB's make decisions like that.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 8:28 a.m.


    Hawaii has had completely lopsided victories over BYU, and it was considered a rivalry then?

  • Common-Tator Saint Paul, MN
    Dec. 4, 2011 7:58 a.m.

    At the risk of sounding negative, during this play:

    "The key play came on third-and-8 from the Hawaii 33. Nelson found himself in the grasp of a pair of Hawaii would-be tacklers behind the line of scrimmage when he lofted the ball up in the air. Hoffman came down with the pass, a 21-yard completion that kept the drive alive." ...

    Doman and Mendenhall are mentally screaming, "NO - DON'T THROW THAT, NO, NO!!! ... nice play!"

    Nice job Hoffman. Riley, what were you thinking?!

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 4, 2011 4:55 a.m.

    Awesome win. I was pleasantly wrong on my prediction (too many memories of past games there). This was one of the most decided wins against UH in many decades. It was great to see the team play with emotion and energy.

  • abejones SCOTT DEPOT, WV
    Dec. 4, 2011 4:04 a.m.

    This BYU team has become one of my favorites; it ignores (1) The fans and (2) the Media. C/USA will throw a tough, well coached team at them down in Texas, but I know they will be ready. I live 30 miles from Marshall University where fans are celebrating a 6/6 season because of wins over Southern Miss and East Carolina.As well they might. If YOU don't take C/USA seriously, the Cougars will.

  • drudge Layton, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 1:51 a.m.

    Terrific win for the Cougars! I remember 2001 very well as Hawaii crushed our undefeated season.

    Hawaii has always been a very difficult place for BYU to play. The Warriors have always considered BYU it's rival.
    I was a little nervous about this one given all the difficult games back in the WAC years, so nice win and finish with another 10 win season!

  • RaininTime Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2011 1:18 a.m.

    Good victory after a long trip.

    Now, according to Rock, after both Mendenhall and Heaps transfer or sign elsewhere, or whatever the point of his article and subsequent KSL interview was, BYU can go on into ESPN lore as everyones rivalry.

    I have no idea why Brad Rock is still considered relevant? He has learned to push my buttons and the buttons of Cougar Nation in the hopes of being someone important, and for that reason alone, he bugs me.