Ofahengaue was the Region MVP and All-State first team and yet was the 3rd best
DL on the Westlake team! Their DTʻs were unreal. #50 was our coaches
priority in making sure he was blocked first and with double teams as much as
possible. Dupaix (Skyline) and Whitehead (Olympus) would tell you the same.
Hicken is a stud and clutch and I think he has the second most point afters in
STATE HISTORY. He doesn't get to kick a lot of FG's because his team scores
touchdowns. I also don't have any problem with him on the all-state team because
he is also a great DB and WR and all-around good player where Baird is only a
kicker, though good.I also think Kyle Larsen of Provo is a beast. He
ran for over 200 yards on four different occasions and had 125 or so against a
tough Highland team. He also was among Utah Valley leaders in tackles. Like the
Murray player noted above, he played on a subpar team which may have hurt him
for first, or at least, second team consideration. But you ask a lot of coaches
and players in Utah Valley and they would all concur, this kid could bring it.
Congrats to all the Bountiful Brave All State selections!
Hey FiefuSam.After reading your post, I agree with you. Digging
deeper, how is your QB not First Team??? Explain that one to me. The Timpview QB was better than both the First Team players stat wise.Player A First Team- 2432 yards, 22 TDs. 12-2 Team RecordPlayer B First Team- 2572 yards, 25 TDs. 9-2 Team recordTimpview
Quarterback- 2876 yards, 32 TDs. 10-3 Team Record.The Second Team
players had half the stats of your TV QB and were both beat in head to head
competition. Very good players, but both were on losing programs. As a fellow Region 8 fan, I think all those years of Timpview beating people
may have caught up to you. Unfortunately, its at the cost of your players. The
voting system shouldnt penalize a kid thats deserving IMO. They should make a
Where and when do the all-region teams come out? Is that the fault of the
coaches or the local newspapers in Provo, Logan, Tooele or Salt Lake?
There are obvious errors in the selection of All-State players. For example,
look at the kickers (which most people don't think are very important, but who
are important by the coaches' estimation).Yes, Jake Thompson from
Logan is the best kicker in the state and has 74 PATs and 10 Field Goals, but
second to him, statistically, is Tyler Solorzano, a junior/DB, from Timpview
with 10 FG and 47 PATs for a total of 77 points plus 57 tackles and 3
interceptions. Third is James Baird of Maple Mountain with 8 FG, 33 PAT and 57
points. Fourth (but selected second-team all-state) is Hayes Hicken of Highland
with only 5 FG and 41 PATs for 56 points. Where is the rational in this
selection?Are all the positions this flawed? If were going to have
All-State selections, lets make them mean something. This can help determine or
jeopardize a student-athletes resume when it comes to college recruitment.
In my opinion.......it is more of a popularity contest. I know of a kid who
made first team all-region, had better stats, but because his team had an
average season he was passed by for all-state. He made all-state honorable
mention and had better stats than the person who made 2nd team all-state. I
feel all this happened because the 2nd teamer belonged to a more popular team.
Oh well, who said life was fair anyway.
Hello people it is stats, you either have them or you do not. Now with that
said, can there be bias absolutely and perhaps some of that bias opinion has
sunk in with a few of these selections but by and large the stats usually
prevail.Good job boy's and lest et ready for another awesome 4A
season in 2012 !
wow. congrats to these kids. But the system is seriously flawed.re
UTNFL BALLER and hsftball#1fanheres your answer....As
stated before...start at the Region level. Have the best kids selected there as
Region Coaches know who to prepare for and who is the best in thier Region.
Then combine them to have the best players and decide. Letting a
Coach not nominate a kid (only Seniors or only Offense kids for example) is
wrong. Making it a popularity contest is horrible. The SLC Coaches cant know
how good a lineman is from Pine View...etc But his Region teams do.How does Springville know how good a Box Elder RB is? Coaches are engrossed
in who they play the next week.Some of these picks are mysitical.
Losing teams, way lower stats, etc. So UTNFL your answer is your
player either was left off the list from your coach or he lost the popularity
contest from Coaches outside the Region that never watched him.
Congratulations to ALL the young men who spend their summers practicing the
sport they love so much. What would we all do without "The Boys of
Fall". A special congratulations to all those who have received these
individual honors because they above all realize that football is a team sport
and without the support of their teammates they could not achieve these honors.
Cmon now, Herriman finishes 8-4 and gets 1 total guy on the three teams. Woods
Cross finished 4-6 and gets 4. Springville goes 3-8 and loses to Herriman by 22,
and gets 5. Northridge in 5A has the same record and gets 7. Something is very
wrong there Deseret News...Herriman was much more than a 1 man team.8-4
with one player...better make Wilson coach of the decade if that is the case.
Seriously?? Who is selecting these?? What about Derick Sanders, LB/FB from
Murray. It shows in stats the kid had 12.5 tackles/game, 3 sacks, 3 int and as
I remember watching the only Murray game on tv this year #35, Sanders was the
only kid on the field that played defense/offense/special teams. This kid is a
leader!! I see him going to a Stanford/Cal/Oregon/Boise type guy. Smart
football player!! I was impressed and have played at the most competitive level
of football. I don't see how a kid like this was not in the top 12 LB in the
state. As a reader of the Deseret News I request this to be reconsidered!!