BYU's quarterback situation vs. Hawaii up in the air

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  • hornetfan declo, id
    Nov. 30, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    To all the naysayers and antis. I would suggest that if Bronco would have said he was starting Heaps that the same people would have posted the same remarks with the quarterbacks names reversed.
    Go Clubs and please try hard.
    Cougars... my bad.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 11:12 p.m.


    Thanks for Mismanaging Jake Heaps, should he transfers it's on you. Riley is a Great kid who works hard but has absolutely no chance to get BYU to a BCS Bowl let alone win one. Should Jake Transfer and win a BCS bowl for some other Team, most of Cougar-nation's will be shaking there heads.

  • yourmomgoestocollege Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 29, 2011 5:59 p.m.

    @Noblepromise-BYU played more AQ teams this year than they did in years past - Ole Miss, Texas, Oregon St, and Utah, as well as TCU (AQ next year). When have they ever played 4 (5) AQ teams in one season? You need to check yourself before making statements like that.

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    I would think BYU would prefer a mobile quarterback instead of drop back pocket quarterback against defense schemes used by Hawaii. Wasn't Riley hurt this season, because he stayed in the pocket and that team's defense is not comparable to Hawaii? Hopefully the coaching staff has worked with the offensive line on quarterback protection otherwise BYU might see 3rd string QB Lark playing. I think Hawaii knows Heaps will start and possibly Riley can play even though he is nursing a chest injury. Even if BYU wins, BYU won't be ranked top 25 team, because BYU scheduled so many teams from non AQ conferences. Has BYU declared their 2012 schedule? Hopefully its not a repetition of this year as even though BYU was on ESPN, game day attendance was lower than previous years. Most postseason Bowls are locked into Conferences so independence teams have a hard time getting in just like BYU getting into an AQ conference when as an independent.

  • LouisD Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 29, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    Actually, Nelson was hurt so early in the Idaho game, Heaps also lead BYU to a 42-7 victory in that game as well. I believe DN is understating Heaps obvious success over the last two games. Heaps is 36-56, 64.3% - 423 yards, 6 TDs and 2 Interceptions during that period. Those are not shabby numbers against competition that is not at the same level as Texas, UCF, Mississippi or Utah.

    We have no idea how Nelson would have fared vs. the same, but his tendency to cough the ball up in the red zone should not be glossed over by critics of Heaps. I think either QB is capable of defeating Hawaii if allowed to get into a rhythm.

    I actually hope to see Heaps start and Nelson play in his traditional wildcat role on 7-10 carefully selected 2-3 down or goal-line snaps. Play calling is more important than who plays, so long as it is taylored to the style of the Quarterback at the helm.

  • Cougar Nation #1 Provo, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    As a BYU alum, I'm begging you Bronco, please no more Riley Nelson at QB. He's Tim Tebow without the size and with half the arm strength.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    Duckhunter Hunter,

    Well obviously the competition at the beginning of the season was much better than the last few games. Both Texas and Utah have great defenses. I was simply stating that because there was no run production, all the pressure was on Heaps and the passing game. For instance, Heaps threw over 50 times for 345yds with 1 TD 1 Int and 1 fumble, and somehow he is blamed for the loss against Utah when 3 runningback's combined for 11yds rushing and 4 fumbles.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 29, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    The QB controversy is over, except in some fan's minds. Nelson is the starting QB. Nelson will probably not play against the Bows because he is not 100%, and will be held out three more weeks to be ready for the bowl game. But rest assured, he is the Cougs starting QB and Bronco will play him if he's 100%. Don't expect to see him come of the bench if Heaps struggles. Nelson will either start or he won't play at all.

    I can't imagine any Cougar fan wanting Heaps to transfer and come back and beat the Cougs. Obviously not a Cougar fan at all. I hope Jake stays and progresses and wins the starting QB job because he is the best available option, whether that's in 2012 or 2013. This year, Nelson has proven to be the best option to win games. If Jake does transfer, that will tell me more about his character than anything he's done or hasn't done on the football field.

    My respect for Davies escalated exponentially after he worked through his challenge, and was crucified by the media.

    Working through difficult situations is required in life. People can't run away from their challenges.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 12:54 p.m.


    "But the running game did not emerge until San Jose State. In both of Heaps losses this season, total yards on the ground were less than 50 (43 vs. Texas, 11 vs Utah). Heaps threw the ball over 250 times in his first 4 games."

    I submit that the lack of run production in those 2 games had more to do with the level competition than with anything BYU has or will do. Texas is 7th in the country in run defense and Utah is 8th.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Nov. 29, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    For NT and IDC.

    Sounds like you 2 need to learn that in Bronco's system, you can't lose your starting position due to injury. Once an injured starter is ready to play again, he moves right back into his starting position. Riley lost his sport to injury and will gain it back once he's recovered and ready to play. It's not a knock on Heaps. Jake understands this concept and could be the beneficiary of it at one time in the future as well.

    Go BYU. Beat the 'Bows.

    BYU 33
    UH 21

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 12:18 p.m.

    How can you want Heaps back in there if Riley is healthy? Riley is a leader and mature enough to deal with the different personalities on the team. Riley is also a better runner and a smarter guy.

    I am all for Heaps playing in the Hawaii game, but not because he is the official starter. Heaps sees the field as the starter so that Riley can rest up for the bowl game. If we win our bowl game I can see another top 25 finish.

    How cool would it be to have 2 top 25 teams this year (basketball and football), with both teams claiming victories in the postseason?

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    Heaps is the obvious choice to start. He may not be the vocal leader that Nelson is, but that should be expected with the age difference (Heaps 19, Nelson 25), and life experience.
    Heaps had to go through breaking in a new OC at the beginning of the year, which made him look bad at times. But the running game did not emerge until San Jose State. In both of Heaps losses this season, total yards on the ground were less than 50 (43 vs. Texas, 11 vs Utah). Heaps threw the ball over 250 times in his first 4 games.

    Bronco needs to either hire a new QB coach or Offensive Coordinator, Doman splitting duties is not working.

    Nelson is too small to be a duel threat QB, and has already been injured twice in 2 seasons. I think the trend will continue. Heaps needs the next 2 games to regain his confidence,and hopefully set him up for a great 2012 campaign.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 29, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    I think either QB will give BYU the win. However, if Hawaii gives us a tough game, I think Nelson is more likely to lead us to victory than Heaps, based on my observations since the beginning of the season.

    On the other hand, I don't know if Nelson has been getting very many reps, and he may be pretty rusty.

    Right now Heaps is NOT even close to being an NFL caliber type QB. After next year (i.e.,after a year of redshirting)? we'll see how well he has matured.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Nov. 29, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    Heaps deserves the start. He came in and has performed well. Go with Heaps as long as he moves the offense - if he has trouble, give Riley another shot.

  • kokua KAYSVILLE, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    @V in Morgan

    After all he is the coach. It is apparent that you are getting all up in a twist about something you have zero control over.

    I hope Riley does not play in the Hawaii game, that would allow him more healing time for the bowl game on the 30 of December in Dallas.

    Hawaii will be up for the BYU with all the local boys from dakine prep schools that are on both teams, as well as all the Ohana { family } that will be attending. The atmosphere will resemble the Utah game, and we all saw how effectively Heaps handled the heat when he faced that caliber of aggression.

    I hope Lark gets the 2nd spot behind Heaps so he can go in and rescue the game thus muddying the controversial Q.B. positions even more.

    Chaos Rules !!

  • NT Springville, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    If you're Heaps and you've just been slapped in the face by your coach's comments like that and then you end up starting - or even coming into the game for whatever reason - just how motivated can you be???

    Although I am for BYU, this would seem to be a good opportunity for Hawaii to come away with a win while watching BYU self-destruct - with the QB controversy that (as was said in the previous post) was created and propelled by Bronco.

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    Riley all the way. He is the one that has shown leadership and maturity and he is the one that can scramble. He is also the smartest player on the field 99.9% of the time and a future doctor.

    I hope Bronco lets him rest this game so he is at full strength when the stakes are higher.

  • cougarNV Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 29, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    I would rather Watch Riley than Jake. I like the leadership that Riley gives along with the winning this season. I like his heart.

    I don't care whether the Cougar's QB is NFL material. I care about winning the game.

    However, it seems as though Jake exhibited some maturity and leadership in his last game. It appeared the rest of the team rallied around him. He is growing.

    Patience is a hard thing to live with when you want things now.

    I hope Jake remains a Cougar. But I believe Riley will give more to the team in the near future. I think Jake will be ready to lead the team after a red shirt year. Just in time for a much testier schedule. (And who knows what the conference landscape might be then)

    Go Cougars!

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 8:28 a.m.

    It is great Bronco has maintained his loyality to is just too bad he could not retain his loyality to Heaps...

    Bronco words..."Heaps is an NFL quarterback" I'll play erractic Riley...

    The contraversity about quarterbacks lays directly on Bronco's shoulders...he has created the problem and he propells it forward...

    I hope if Heaps transfers, I hope he goes to a team that BYU plays and he burns BYU bad...both the Riley fans and Bronco would deserve it and Heaps has the guns to do it...after all, "Heaps is a NFL quarterback"

  • Timp South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 4:24 a.m.

    If you're looking for stuff to do Bronco, can always look at some film for your upcoming game. Just saying.