Utah Jazz: NBA's shortened, frantic-paced season may help Jazz

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  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Nov. 30, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    The oddsmakers have the Jazz as one of the worst teams in the NBA as to winning a championship. Youth or not, the Jazz are a horrible team this year.

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    I know that is the Jazz preference with the PG, but it is time for a change. The offense can't be the same with Jefferson as the primary scorer. If your PG can't shoot, the D will do nothing but pack the paint. We had a PG who distributed, took care of the ball, and defended in Watson, yet we had our worst year offensively in years. Obviously he wasn't the only reason for that.

    As for lumping the wings together, you can do that offensively, but CJ & Hayward can not defend the 3 consistently. Certain match ups they can, but if both start together we'll be in trouble.

    I would use the amnesty on Jefferson, just to create PT for the youngsters who are the future. This isn't a playoff team, so why keep him. He hasn't proven himself to be any kind of a leader.

    If they choose not to use it on Al, maybe Raja. The savings aren't huge but every bit helps in a small market.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    I tend to lump the wings together. I believe Hayward, for example, can play both SG and SF. Miles is the same way.

    But your point is well taken. Hayward and Burks are young, Bell is old, Miles is erratic, and Millsap can't guard quicker players on the perimeter. That is a problem for the Jazz. That is also the area we need the 3-pt shooting, not the PG. The Jazz have always asked their PGs to distribute first and shoot later. We also need to remember that the Jazz are not looking for a starting PG but a reserve. The chance of getting a reserve PG who can distribute, take care of the ball, defend, and shoot the 3 is remote at best. 3-pt shooting is the least important of those four attributes.

    I wouldn't use the amnesty clause this year. Jefferson is still a major contributor (especially since the other post players are so young) and, as you pointed out, Okur is only painful for a year. You only use it is you have a chance at a top-tier free agent (such as Nene) and that ain't likely.

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 12:16 a.m.

    re: joe5

    PG: Harris
    SG: Hayward/Burks/Bell
    SF: Millsap/Miles
    PF: Favors/Millsap/Evans
    C: Jefferson/Kanter/Okur

    They obviously need a PG or two. I'm not sure who is available, but they need a PG with range. With 3 post up players in Millsap/Favors/Jefferson, they need the point to be able to shoot consistently from the outside (unlike Watson & Price).
    The real concern for me is the SF. Millsap is ideally suited to be the 6th man, playing at the 3 or 4. Problem is that CJ should not even be a 3, let alone a starter.
    Next question is the amnesty clause. Who do they use it on? If at all. Okur expires in a year anyway. Jefferson would give the most flexibility financially. But then do you start Millsap at 4 and Favors at 5, or go with Favors at 4 still along with Kanter (if he is good enough this early) or Okur (if he is anything like his old self) at the 5?

    Too many question and the Jazz don't have much time to figure them out. At least the young guys will get the playing time they need.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    Jazz roster/rotations:

    PG: Harris

    Wings: Hayward, Miles, Burks (3-man rotation) with Bell as the deep bench

    Post: Jefferson, Favors, Millsap, Kanter, Okur, Evans

    The Jazz like to carry 13 players and they have 11. Obviously they need at least one or two PGs and another solid wing who can contribute without taking away much need minutes from Hayward and Burks. Obviously there is a bottleneck in the frontcourt with five potentially starter quality people and one freak athlete who deserves some minutes as well.

    So play front office and tell what you would do if you were KOC.

    For me:

    1) Harris is a starter so whoever I pick up at PG has to be solid but cheap and willing to play limited minutes. I'd like one veteran and one promising youngster like Shakur or Bradley.

    2) Of our youngsters, I want minutes for Hayward, Favors, Kanter, and Burks in that order. Jefferson and Miles also need to be in the rotation. Evans won't bring much in trade value so we keep him. That leaves Millsap and/or Okur as trade bait to pick up a veteran wing and depth wherever else is needed.

  • bonuntr RICHFIELD, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 7:13 p.m.

    There will be no playoffs for the Jazz, but, there will be an excitement to the whole "new" package. I am excited, for one, to watch coach Corbin and how he develops the new rookie talents. We are going to have some sad nights of basketball with all the youth on the team, but the highs of when they all gel together and give us a glimpse of what they are capable of will be well worth the heartache of the losses. I can't wait to see what free agency brings...GO JAZZ!

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    Short season or not this will be a rebuilding year for the Jazz. I fully expect the Jazz to have 2 lottery picks in 2012 (theirs and Golden State's). I do think that the Jazz will be competitive and very fun to watch, but I'd be surprised to see them in the playoffs under any season length this year.

  • terra nova Park City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    The whole NBA lockout leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I have rather enjoyed watching more high-school and college ball. The game seems to matter more at that level. They try harder. It is far more inspiring than watching these over-paid NBA players. And it is also a whole lot easier on my pocketbook.

    Hmmm... more joy and intensity and far less cost. More humble players. What's not to like?

    I have not missed the NBA.

  • Sakshay Chaturvedi87 Noida, India
    Nov. 28, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    Jazz Need Some Serious Depth At Wing !! No Consistent Scorer in There !! Should Go For Jamaal Crawford even if it means Overpaying Him !

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    my question is what happens the first time Ty Corbin decides he needs to discipline one of his players.....will Greg Miller KOC step in and tell him he can't do it like he did with Sloan?
    The Jazz are now no different than all of the other pathetic NBA organizations who let the inmates run the asylum. They were one of only a couple of teams where the players had to respect the coach and run an actual system instead of running a bunch of one one one look at me crap we see with the rest of the NBA. Kevin O Connor and Greg Miller took what Larry Miller and Jerry Sloan built over 20 years and ruined it in 5 minutes.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    Yeah.. May help them lose, That's what the Spazz do.. is lose!!!

  • redcliffs Ivins, Utah
    Nov. 28, 2011 11:46 a.m.


    Feel free to ignore portland trail blazers comments. It's just some disgruntled Jazz fan that constantly sends in the same boring comments on every Jazz news story because the blazers are nothing to write about and Seattle couldn't support a team. If we all ignore him/her then they will give up and go get a life. Don't waste your time reading or responding to them anymore!!

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    Did this article actually mention the Jazz and the playoffs in the same discussion?

    Somebody needs to take another look at all the new inexperienced players on this roster...and even a bigger look at the list of veterans. CJ hot as the sun one night and then cold as the dark side of the moon for the next 8 nights? Memo trying to come back off a year long plus injury? Young guys needing and possibly getting big minutes? A new coach? How many games has this group played together?

    Uh, there will very likely be no playoffs for this team unless our division rivals collapse in some unforseen way.

    I'm not saying it won't be exciting to see what these young guys potentially can do. One night you will get to see it and then the next night you will be asking "where did that guy disappear to"? Such is life with a bunch of young guys that are totally new or relatively new to the NBA.

    Adjust your expectations accordingly or prepare to be disappointed.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:15 a.m.

    Portland Trailblazers

    What is the real reason you hate the Jazz? From your comments I don't get the impression that your even a Blazers fan.

    The Sonics are dead. RIP.

    You should keep supporting that WNBA team you have in Seattle.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    Nov. 28, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    The whiners and complainers are just jealous that they can't get people to pay money to watch them do their jobs. Instead of complaining and whining, why don't you guys find a way to get people to pay money to watch you do your job?

  • Tyler Holladay, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    Brave Sir Robin

    How about YOU boycott the NBA while I watch every Jazz game (and any other game that is worth watching) I can during the season? Ok sounds good.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 28, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Boycott the NBA! Don't pay their exorbitant ticket prices so owners can crack crab legs in their private suites and players can make $100k per minute. And kill their ad revenue - don't watch games on TV. Let's put NBA ratings down in the neighborhood of the Home Shopping Network.

    Time to push the reset button on pro basketball - time to go back to the days where players worked hard for a reasonable wage. The NBA has spiraled out of control and it's time to blow it up and start over.

  • YouthforEagar MONROE, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    @Portland Trail Blazers
    Go right ahead. I'm not signing.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    This is all nice in theory, but the reality is that the Jazz has a very inexperienced team who have not played together. There is a lot of young, untested talent which should make for a great future, but this season I tend to doubt that the Jazz will do much, let alone make the playoffs. It's doubtful that Kirilenko will be back, Okur will grind out his contract away from the court, and trades of some of our veteran players will likely offset any chance that we will compete this year. However, we have great talent coming up and will be a contendor in the future.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 7:49 a.m.

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Who cares?

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    Nov. 28, 2011 7:35 a.m.

    Portland trailblazers.

    It seems like you care more about the Jazz being in seattle than you do about the trailblazers.

    So if the Jazz were to move to seattle under your logic, they would automatically be contenders with the exact same roster they have now.

    Seattle didn't want to build a new arena for a very good OKC thunder team so they deserve no basketball team.

    Give me 5 logical reasons why Seattle who wouldn't do what it took to keep a title contending team in their city, deserves a stable franchise like the Jazz who sell out the majority of their games when they are in the playoff hunt?

  • redcliffs Ivins, Utah
    Nov. 28, 2011 7:09 a.m.

    I agree with you. I at least don't think a short fast paced season favors the Jazz. We are too young. It seems that 1st and 2nd year players take awhile to adjust to how many games the pros play. Coming out of college where they maybe play 30 games and then jumping into the hectic schedule of the pros is tough and most rookies hit a wall

    @portland trail blazers

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 6:41 a.m.

    By the time Corbin gets the team to a point they are playing together the season will have already been over. The Jazz are going to need time playing in games to get better and of course the younger players will need more time.

    Chances are Corbin will lose his position before the end of the season.

  • myjazz Ogden, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 6:33 a.m.

    Last week I received a holiday 2011 advertisement for the NBA STORE. It had advertisements for 26 teams. It had a T-Shirt advertisement for the JAZZ on the very last page. The only problem is it had New Orleans Jazz. That is how the NBA feels about the Jazz they don"t even know that we are now the Utah Jazz.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:42 a.m.

    A young, Tim Duncan-led team would have been a threat in any length season. Durant's team obvious front runner anyway, but yeah, they should play well right away, too. Hey Portland from Sandy, I think you are wrong. Jazz have a good shot. Maybe you should move to Seattle.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Who cares...

    Jazz are not making the playoffs this season anyways.

    I'm going to start a petition to move the Jazz from Utah to Seattle!

  • jazz4ever San Mateo, CA
    Nov. 27, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    I dont know if I can agree 100% with Sloan. At the start of the shortened 99 season, it was thought then, that it gave the aging but veteran Jazz team an advantage. I still believe that, even though it did not work out. Tim Duncan showing so much maturity in the playoffs so early in his career was an anomaly. Whatever the effect age factor has, I do think teams with a set rotation from last year will get the early advantage, say for the first 20 or 30 games. That could well translate into a post-season berth before the teams with new additions get to catch their breath!