High school boys basketball: Hoops season tips off

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  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 29, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Podunk....they are good but they will lose some games this year to the better 2A competition. The Jones boys from South Sevier have not come in to play yet.

  • podunk utah DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 28, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    I have to agree, this Wasatch Academy deal is farce.. I am sure the UHSAA has not run across something like this before.... if their coach is that good and the players are specifically recruited as D1 prospects... the school and coach should push to be reclassified to 5A for basketball

    if his players are that good they should be playing against the best in the state, consistently. Just like that prep school in Vegas. They should not be playing 1A or 2A....give the recruiters a real measure of these kids, week in week out

  • just fyi American Fork, UT
    Nov. 25, 2011 1:38 a.m.

    Lone Peak will have all 5 starters this year as D1 recruits. Good luck beating them

  • hsballfan MOUNT PLEASANT, UT
    Nov. 24, 2011 10:27 p.m.

    Exactly my point. You could not compare our little part of the world with last year's WA starting team who consisted of France, Lithuania, Canada, Croatia, and Bulgaria. I am not familiar with their team this year yet. When you watch a high school basketball team you need city boundaries. When you watch WA you will need a world map.

  • Central Sports EPHRAIM, UT
    Nov. 24, 2011 8:39 p.m.

    @hsball fan and 2afan you both are right about WA being orchestrated, I am sure it was not the luck of the draw either. I am aware that WA did find some of it's players, not by chance. It does seem a bit unfair that they can find kids from around the world while most are restricted to out little part of the world. I hope ushaa considers this in the future. I still think that Manti will have a great year this time around and be a contender for the title.

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    Not to worry. Hunt will coach them up for the next time.

  • 2afan Layton, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 1:08 p.m.

    @hsballfan: Well said. While WA is a significant foreign student body these last two teams have no doubt in my mind been orchestrated (with a new coach I believe) with the intent to load up and run over the intent of UHSAA rules. I am not convinced this is the luck of the draw. Further it makes it easier for people to paint all successful private schools with the same brush unfairly. The differences between public and private can be a good and healthy experience when accurately understood, but this situation is difficult to defend. Having said all that, these kids may have found WA on their own and thus I am wrong about their approach. Regardless WA will win as you said save a major upset.

  • No name Provo, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    @binghamalum:I agree with you in the sense that it would be hard for a 2A school to beat 5A school that has over tripple the numbers (get off the high horse and just play SS), but to rip on the smaller classifications is really unclassy. A lot of the athletes in smaller schools average 3-4 sports a year, which does have a lot to do with numbers, but that does not mean these kids do not put in the hard work just like the big schools. They are deciated to everything they do, not just to the sport they play.A lot of these kids may not go on to play college ball, but they know that sports are not the most important thing in the end, and to be quite frank it shouldn't be now. Even for those that do go on to higher levels, it all ends eventually. I love sports and loved playing, but it's not and shouldn't be the main focus in life. For those that think it is, you really need to get your priorities straight. Good luck to ALL of the teams

  • hsballfan MOUNT PLEASANT, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    Yes, Hunt will use this game as a learning tool. But the tool SS does not have is the tremendous benefits others do. Many of the 2A fans may not be familiar with last year's 1A basketball season and the upsetting feeling it left. If all the teams would have had the same rules to follow, then the tournament would have been a different story. Schools like Rich, Liahona, ICS, Piute, among others had seniors who had been waiting for this year to bring it all home. I hope that I am wrong and that the story does not repeat itself with the non-recruiting opportunity which the majority of schools do not possess in the 1A and 2A division. SS may have D1 player prospects but last nights game proved which school has bigger boundaries. Again, I hope I am wrong, but I do believe WA will have 2 state championships in a row. Mark my words.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    Wait, SS lost? to a 2A team? well, there goes the theory that they could win the 5A title. Jeez, every season someone gets on here saying that their team could win a different division title. How about you just win your division title first. There are alot of "ifs" but they won't happen, so play your division and if the state ever comes up with a post season champions tourney, then you can get riled up about that.

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    Wasatch Academy...early in the season. Hunt will use this game as a learning tool.

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    Hahahah, Just Sayin...I played at WX a couple years ago. This year will be very tough. Hunsaker left to Orem, Gerrard and Russel to Bountiful, Rawlings to Layton Christian, and Sefakis wouldnt even try out. It will be a long, long season after last years success. Maxwell, over at Bountiful should have a very nice team and season, however. Go cats.

  • ADIDAS Tooele County, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    Who won out of South Sevier and Wasatch Academy?

  • McSports BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    Watch out for the best 4a basketball team, the Bountiful Braves! the BIG 3 are Back!!!

  • Jxc#1 OGDEN, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 9:37 p.m.

    i go to fremont and trust me... if SS beats us it is not an accomplishment. especially not this early in the season. We had 3 key players hurt from the last 2 football games including Nick Vigil with a broken foot one of our best defensive players and rowdy stucki with a broken foot also. Fremont will be weak at the start of the season. Just like last year when we had players hurt from football. But towards the end of the season we should be up there in the running but we are no where near as good as last year. (we were beating LP by 17 in the 3rd quarter of the semis and blew it by taking our key guys out which is no excuse i know but still.) but to be saying that SS could even come close to beating lone peak this year you must have a pretty good imagination. My pre season is that LP wins it all again this year and the next year. But i sure hope our guys can get healthy so we can have a good run at them. #GOWOLVES

  • just sayin' Woods Cross, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 6:23 p.m.

    Don't sleep on the CATS, we're going to make some noise. GO WX!!

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Race Parsons is a D1 prospect. Ask some of the scouts and D1 schools.

  • LP suppporter Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 3:44 p.m.

    A fun time of year as we wrap up the high school fall sports and begin the winter sports. As usual anticipation is high throughout the basketball world. The good thing is everyone starts out equal. I cannot see anyone going undefeated this year. The season is long and good teams always have a target on their backs. LP for example plays 15 road games, with 10 in a row at one stretch. Six of those are in South Carolina and Wisconsin. An ambitious schedule to say the least. In 5A there are some very good teams with talented players on them. Obviously LP starts out as the favorite, but anything can happen. As far as the smaller schools there really are some good teams. SS is talented I watched them play 5 times last year. They will be fun to watch and we will see what Wasatch Academy does moving to 2A. Good luck all...

  • Jimmer4pres SwagCity, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    JD Books comments get more outrageous everytime he comments, Davis should not be in the top 5, 10 or even 20. They will lose tonight big to Riverton. Number 3 McCleary is the best true point guard in the state and is going to have a hayday tonight! Mark my words. By the way the SS rams don't have any D1 prospects they dont even have a player who could start at the 4a/5a level let alone at the collegiate level

  • Ballfan6 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    With the Mika thing, i actually agree with the UHSAA on this one. You just have to look into it a little and read between the lines. He is only transfering to play. He does live in LP boundries but why else would he go to Waterford? for the schooling? Why all of the sudden did it change? His sibilings are still going to Waterford. This is one time i rarely agree with UHSAA.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    This mika kid lives next to some friends of mine in alpine. Apparently he has lived in lone peak boundaries since he was in elementary school. why can others- like skylines best player transfer from skyline to WJ? mika actually lives in LP boundaries and cant play for his high school instead of a private school. Uhsaa is messed up

  • zelmob57 Vernal, Ut
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:36 p.m.

    An end of season inter-class playoff would garner a lot of interest. How about featuring the top two teams from class 5A, 4A, 3A and 2A. Have the 5A champ play the 4A second place team and the 4A champ play 5A's runner-up. The winners meet and play the surviving team from a similar playoff between 3A and 2A's top teams. Sounds like fun and would certainly create a lot of comment fodder.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    SS will prove to see where they stand when they play fremont. But remember fremmont is far from being one of the best in 5A.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    I agree that SS could definitely compete well in 3A and beat some teams in 4A but it would be an absolute blowout if they were to play any of the big three in 5A. no question.

    Another thing- why is it that this jaden kids from skyline can transfer from skyline to West jordan if this Mika kid can`t transfter from waterford to LP? Sounds really messed up if you ask me

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    To BinghamAlum, No one has said that SS will go undefeated this year or any other year for that matter. What is being said is that with the type of program that Hunt has year in and year out that we could compete with higher classifications. Remember Hickory Hs in Hoosiers? It is too bad that there is not some type of inter classification tourney after the state tournaments are over to see where each team really fits.

  • binghamalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    One more thing to SS fans!
    Won title in 05-06 by 2 points against Juab, lucky JD moved up to 3A that year!
    Won title 10-11 last year! Congrats!
    2 titles in 10 years! with the best coaching staff in the state??
    I know you win 20 plus games and only have lost to one team in the semis or during season, but if its the best coaching staff, how do you win 27 games in a year and then dont even win state in 2A! ha

    Win this year and next year 2A SS then you can comment that you can beat anyone in state!

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    Clark & Parsons are both D1 prospects. Both have D1 interest. Plus Hunt and his staff can coach rings around most other coaches. SS never has the biggest or fastest kids but somehow they continue to collect the gold trophies.

  • binghamalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    Race Parsons, is a good player, 6'4 and 150 pounds., ya I would own 2A with being a 6'4 stick, but he comes to 4A or 5A he gets bullied! But I have to say I HAVE SEEN him play, he is good. but your competition is not good,
    One game at Fremont wont say much to how good your team is, but I will watch and see what all this hype about the best coaching staff in state, and the best team in state from 2A!

    I bet its a good team, becuase you went 24-1 last year, and now you return one senior, and like 9 juniors back, you will be good this year and next!!

    to bad no one outside of 2a worries to much because no one will play the, or will go play them where ever south sevier is!

    But 2a title is something to brag about for sure, and the way you all talk, this team will go undefeated this year right?

  • binghamalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    SS will lose to Wasatch academy tonight! ha good luck!

    Jd Brooks,
    Best coaching staff in the state? but yet there coaching 2A basketball and have good players,

    my best friend played for JD in 2A they went 24-1, and won with marquiz wilson over all that 2A competition, guess what... only one kid on that team went to play college ball.... ha

    so 24-1 against 2A, is not anything great! but good for them!

    agreed with HS sports guru!

    Who are these 2 D 1 recruits that you have? how tall are they? talkin to who exactly?

    best coaching staff in state, stuck in South sevier or what ever its called,

  • JustTheTruthMan bountiful, ut
    Nov. 22, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    Keith West? Is he the one that was there in the 90's and prior? If so, man that guy is tenured! :)

  • HS Sports Guru West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:50 a.m.

    For anyone that goes to the Dixie State Team Camp every summer you should already know that whoever says any 2A team could compete even with a 4A team is way off the reservation. Every year Enterprise and South Sevier play in the "B" Varsity Division playing against all the 5A and 4A second team guys and they still get beat. Thats why you never see a 5A vs 2A challenge because there would never be a challenge.

  • SS Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    First off to say that it isn't hard to go 24-1 in 2A shows ignorance and that you haven't had anything to do with coaching a team in any classification. And your comment about SS getting killed by any 5A team . . . well I guess we will find out when SS faces Fremont on the 6th of December. While I believe that SS has an amazing team this year, it is in their own best interest to check themselves and be humble if they want to achieve their goals this year.

  • Ballfan6 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    I am all for the under dog, but there is no way SS could come close to any of the LP, AF, or WJ. Not even a chance. I'm sorry but it just wouldn't even be a game.

  • carver Enterprise, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    Iam going to jump on the 2A bandwagon and go on record right now and say that South Sevier could finish no lower than 3rd in any 4A/5A region in the state. Yes, this comment has some homework behind it!

    There could be some fine teams in 2A this year. Let's get started!

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    SS has 2 D1 prospects plus arguably the best coaching staff in the state.

  • binghamalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Who is SS???

    If you mean south sevier, that is funny!!!

    24-1 Lone Peak, with 2 BYU signees,
    21-4 West Jordan, Utah Signee, 6'6 230, I bet your tallest guy on your team is maybe 6'4 which in 2A is massive!!!
    American fork would murder you! ha all of 5A most likely would!!

    24-1 in 2A BASKETBall is not hard! ha

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    SS Rams could probably win the 5A title!