Utah wins in overtime for fourth straight victory

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  • williary Kearns, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 5:20 p.m.


    Computer poll based on nothing but numbers and facts,

    Or the Coaches Poll, based on the SID filling out the poll for his/her coach.

    Question. What do you call a team who losses to a Mid to lower tier Pac team at home by 44 points?

    Not even good enough to be a mid to lower tier BCS team.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 21, 2011 2:43 p.m.

    Another update:

    Rankings by coaches poll

    BYU #30
    UTAH #35---Mid to lower tier pac team

    Chris prediction

    Colorado 36
    Utah 17

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    @worf & Pavalova

    For our still confused Cougar fans who are still actually trying to compare not only Utah and BYU on the field, but their schedules. A weekly update provided by Sagarin. Not opinions, just facts:

    Utah ranked #31, #29 Strength of Schedule
    BYU ranked #47, #95 SOS

    Average ranking of opponents -
    Utah #60.0
    BYU #90.0

    Best wins -
    Utah - #47 BYU, #52 UCLA, #59 Pitt, #69 Arizona, #76 Wash. St., #82 OSU, #88 Montanta State
    BYU - #79 Utah State, #82 OSU, #86 UCF

    Utah has 5 wins versus teams better than anyone BYU has beaten this year.

    Worst opponents -
    Utah - #88 MSU, #114 Colorado
    BYU - #94 Hawaii, #99 SJSU, #106 Ole Miss, #123 NMSU, #135 Idaho, #207 ISU

    BYU plays 6 teams ranked #90 or higher, Utah plays 1.

    "Colorado and Arizona are arguably worse than any team that BYU has faced this year."

    Again, always nice to have some facts to back up your bold claims. Arizona is ranked higher in the computers than ANYONE BYU has beaten, all year. Colorado would be the 4th worst team on BYU's schedule, they are easily Utah's easiest.

    Not to mention 54-10.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    Y fans keep referring to the PAC 12 as the PAC 10.2?? What did Colorado and Oregon State ever do to them?

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:33 p.m.


    Wow! New Mexico State has a football team?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:16 p.m.

    Wow! Is Washinton State even as good as New Mexico State or Idaho? Utah State mey not think so.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:15 p.m.

    Better that Utah is in a big boy BCS Conference building for the future than settling for mediocrity while getting fat on WAC teams that are barely college football teams and being satisfied with it. I'd hate to live the delusional life of a BYU fan.

  • utesovertide Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:46 p.m.


    "Utah has benefited by not playing Oregon or Stanford this year"

    You are forgetting something important. The Utes lost to two teams from the north as part of their four losses. If Utah would have played both Stanford and Oregon (in exchange for Washington and Cal) and lost to them, they would have two losses to northern teams, out of four losses.

    So we would most likely be in the same spot. Had we beaten UW or Cal, then you're argument would be more debatable.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    @RaininTime 2:58

    As a fellow Cougar fan, I agree with you. Utah started off poorly this year, but they've defintely picked themselves off the ground and have roared back. And yes, they have had a much tougher schedule than BYU, so they deserve more kudos, even from me.

    This is why I want to see BYU get into a conference again. Let's face is, this whole Independence thing hasn't been all that exciting. Sure, our team is 8-3 and going to a bowl game, but it's been a lackluster season at best.

    People may call the Big East the "Big Least" but in my opinion, it will still be better than these silly games against Idaho and New Mexico State.

  • AllSeeingEye Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 5:05 p.m.

    Pavalova is entitled to his opinion. I respect it.

    My opinion is that anyone who thinks Arizona is "worse" than Idaho State (lost Montana State 54-13, Eastern Washington 45-14 and Washington State 64-21) either lives in Pocatello or is a BYU fan. But, hey, that's just me.

    I said above I believe Tom Holmoe did the best he could with what he had to work with. And, props to BYU for taking care of business and beating teams it should.

    The surprising thing is how some BYU fans can so adamant about their views as to believe things that are...shall we say (generously)...so silly?

  • RaininTime Orem, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    I am a huge BYU fan, but Utah's football program is currently better than BYU's. I guess I am a bit tired of all the "talk" some BYU fans and media are willing to do to pump up BYU football.

    BYU football is very average right now. I think if roles were reversed, every BYU fan in the nation would be saying what a great comeback season they are having. The BYU community needs to "get real" and quit making excuses. Our football team is maybe a top 50 right now, and I think that is fair.

    I give props to the Utes for making a run at a Pac-10 C-ship game after losing their starting QB. Their defense is championship caliber as is their special teams. Their running game is good enough and probably could be a lot better if they had a better passing attack.

    As far as BYU is concerned, hey we lost to Texas by 1, to TCU by 10 and to Utah by 44. The BYU offense is stagnant and without misdirection when given our talent level, misdirection should be an absolute. Doman needs more time, just like Heaps.

    Nov. 20, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    Umm yeah the Sun Bowl is always a step up from Vegas (except for the players, LV is a much cooler place for spending bowl season than El Paso), as it pays better and traditionally has better competition. However, the Sun Bowl now looks like it could be our worst-case scenario for destinations. Vegas is pretty much out.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    Colorado and Arizona are arguably worse than any team that BYU has faced this year. Utah has benefited by not playing Oregon or Stanford this year. Next year the schedule for BYU gets much tougher, so make fun of the last minute opponents from the WAC this year while you can.

    BYU did the best with scheduling that they could given the short amount of time they had to get things together. The road also get much tougher at the U too. Who would have thought that the Sun bowl would be a "step up" from the Vegas bowl...go figure.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    Here's my predictions for next weeks PAC-12 finally...

    Utah by 20 over Colorado.

    USC by 20 over UCLA.

    Can ASU lose 4 straight games?
    Yes, Cal is better than UCLA, WSU, and UofA.

    Cal by 3 over ASU.

    Go Cal!!

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    As a BYU fan, I enjoyed watching a real football game, unlike watching BYU v. New Mexico State.

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:33 p.m.


    That post was so bitter it was awkward.

    Your "true program" lost to the program you're truly jealous of by 44 points.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:33 p.m.


    Currently Utah at 7-5 is the #4 team in the PAC-12 overall. So yes Utah has been great after starting 3-4.

    Yes, with our defense @RES a win over Colorado is a given.
    Colorado is no better than New Mexico State and I had BYU by 30+ over NMS.

    Um, back to staid um size and TV exposure smack? Congrats! That's the only thing you have on Utah. On the filed, you lose 7 of 10.

    Go UTES!! 8-4 and a Sun Bowl is strong possibility.

    Nov. 20, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    smartiepants, you are a riot. Yep, you figured it out, it's because the UTES are so bad that eastern Washington residents couldn't be paid to go to a game at Martin Stadium. Meanwhile, 50,000 fans braved the cold (but not as cold as Pullman) to watch the only kind of competition that any Cougars not from Washington or Houston can win against. Hey at least you can say the Cougars are a top ten team... just not BYU.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Portland Trail Blazers | 12:18 a.m. Nov. 20, 2011
    Sandy, UT
    If we're going off facts and stats, then lets face it, BYU is the best team in teh state...


    54-10 ... you lose again.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    I listened on 700 for a while, then had to turn if off - I couldn't take the announcer who said WSU's field goal was a "victory for the Utah defense" but Utah's a few minutes later was a "great 3 points for the offense." Double-speak, those Ute announcers haven't got a clue about being the least bit objective on ANY play.

    So the Ute's won---congratulations. They have such a popular program that 1ess than 17,000 fans watched the game in person. Meanwhile, at the true program in the State, over 50,000 fans braved the cold and late, late start to see a 42 - 7 victory. Sure, NMS isn't a "PAC 10.2" team, but WSU isn't anything to brag about beating, either. Enjoy the Vegas Bowl, Utes. LOL!!!!

    Kyle thinks the Utes have done great things to get a 4 - 4 record against a weakened conference. LOL!!!

    Since you've already decided that you have defeated Colorado, don't bother preparing for them. Your new rivals (CO) just might be up to it and if not, you can always become rivals with WSU; you know, they're COUGARS too!

    Rose Bowl, anyone.....(except Utah of course)??

    Nov. 20, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    The anxiety next week will be agonizing! We'll likely be up until near midnight Friday seeing how the ASU@Cal game plays out. And if ASU loses, it will be nearly the same situation Saturday at the Coliseum. First things first, give Colorado its blackest Black Friday in recent memory!

  • AllSeeingEye Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    Are BYU fans really saying that teams like Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State, and San Jose State compare to UCLA, WSU, Arizona, and Oregon State?

    I mean, is that really the argument? That, in terms of atheletic ability, coaching, all-around quality, etc., etc., the teams on BYU's independent schedule are the same caliber as PAC 12 teams, especially BYU's November slate?

    Wow! Shocking! Who else in the college football world would believe this?

    Give Tom Holmoe lots of credit for doing the best he could in the first year of independence to put together a schedule with twelve games that met BYU's needs in terms of home and away, etc.

    Give BYU lots of credit for beating the teams it should beat.

    Give the Utes lots of credit for their first year perfomance in their new conference, especially considering all the injuries they have had.

    Give everybody lots of credit, except those who think playing against Idaho State is the same as playing against Washington State, or that playing Idaho is the same as playing against UCLA.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    @ Portland Trail Blazers | 12:18 a.m. Nov. 20, 2011

    I have 64... I mean 54 & 10 reasons that say you are up in the night.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    @ worf | 8:10 p.m. Nov. 19, 2011

    If you paid attention, the graphic displayed late in the game showed the Utes D ranked 1st in several categories including scoring D.

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:28 a.m.


    Don't you have some armed forces bowl tickets to buy? Or a Heisman candidate to hype up?

  • Luv 2 Troll U Sandy, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:26 a.m.


    "really people think before you type. lol"

    Funny you should say that... BYU is the most overhyped team in the nation.

    The teams Utah beat are better than the teams the Cougies are playing.

    Which high school district was New Mexico St it? What about Idaho?

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:18 a.m.


    Funny you should mention that, being a BYU fan and all.

    Remind me, which school district is New Mexico St. in again?

    Nov. 20, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    sammyg, yes Ticklefest Provo '11 continues. Meanwhile, in Pullman, the Utes survive a gut check to win their 4th straight conference game.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    UCLA actually controls destiny in PAC-12 south, they beat USC, they go to the championship game.

    U goes if it wins, ASU and UCLA both lose.

    ASU goes if it wins and UCLA loses as it owns tiebreakers because of win over USC and all three teams would be 5-4.

    That's how I understand the tiebreakers and possible scenarios.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    If ASU, UCLA and the U all tie at 5-4 ASU holds the tiebreaker because it beat the team with the best record (USC) and would go to the championship game, that's why ASU has to lose out for UCLA or the U to have any chance to go to the championship game.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    @Cougars wise little brothers

    "BYU handled their opponent 42-7"

    All that tells me is...

    BYU: NMSU :: Utah: BYU

    I am sure you do not understand analogies, so just look it up on google and it will show you what I mean...

  • i luv UTES Sandy, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Portland Trail Blazers,

    Serious? Well, if you're going off strength of schedule, Utah is the best team in the state.

    And if you're going off of the head to head matchup, then BYU is 44 points inferior to the best team in the state.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    @ Cougars- wise little brothers

    "lol at the delusional Utah fan spin; why would BYU fans be wasting their time on a Utah blog DURING a BYU game?"

    I have no idea honestly! You tell me why BYU fans are on a Utah blog during a BYU game every single week...

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    I can't believe that ASU lost to AU! Cal played Stanford to within 3 points on their field too. Getting interesting for sure. I will sure be watching that ASU vs Cal game on Friday.

    Utah in the PAC 12 Champ game? It CAN happen. Utah's D just might be the ticket to slowing down the Ducks too.

    Ducks and Utes on Dec 2nd!

    Go Utes and Cal!

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    Cougars - Wise Older Brothers,

    Congratulations little brothers on your coptor bowl. We'll take pictures for you at the PAC championship game.

    Oh by the way, could you remind me which school district is New Mexico St. in again?

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:57 a.m.


    "I'll take victories against Arizona, UCLA, and Washington State over victories against San Jose State, Idaho, and New Mexico State any time".

    And that just helped some up the mentality it takes to be a ute fan. Those teams are as bad right now if not worse than those teams mentioned adn so many others in "bcs conferences", but ute fan thinks just becasue they are in a "bcs conference" they are good, really people think before you type. lol

    Soon the bcs will be gone, then what ute fan? Welcome back to reality.

  • Team Jacob New York, NY
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    Whoa Whoa Whoa fans who are smelling roses. I am as big of a Ute fan as there is, but IF we get to the PAC-12 championship game do you really think we have a chance against Oregon? I think we could score 10 points against them, and maybe "hold" them to 38 or 45.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    It was a nice win for the Utes. I would expect them to blow out Colorado next week too. I just wonder how Utah got taken to OT by a team that is 4-7 (one of the those losses coming from blowout loss to San Diego State.) The PAC 12 has got to be one of the most inconsistent conferences in the country. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Utah in the PAC 12 title game.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    Congratulations to the Utes!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:27 a.m.

    Okay, I made my earlier comment before I saw the results of the USC/Oregon game. With ASU playing so poorly and USC playing so well there is a very real possibility ASU and UCLA will lose next week putting the Utes in the Pac 12 title game with a win over Colorado. Can U believe it!?!?!?

    Go UTES!!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 5:55 a.m.

    And the ticklefest continues by beating another cupcake.

    Nov. 20, 2011 4:25 a.m.

    @ Mormon Ute.
    UCLA has no chance their last game is USC consider them obliterated. If we Beat CO, Cal Beats AZ ST & USC wipes UCLA out we will be tied with UCLA in the PAC but since we beat UCLA we will be the contender for the south.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:47 a.m.

    @niners 11:48

    You said, "There are very few BYU fans on the Utah board tonight, thats unusual..."

    It's because our game started so late this evening. A lot of the Cougar fans, especially those who live in Salt Lake and Davis County, are still driving home. True, beating up on New Mexico State in freezing cold LES isn't exactly what I call the funnest way to spend a Saturday night, but the true blue Cougar fans will stick with their team regardless.

    As a Cougar fan I say, Well Done Utes! Your team has definitely risen from the ashes and I'll be interested to see how things play out next week.

    If ASU and UCLA both lose next week, and you guys beat Colorado, all of which are strong possibilities, you WILL face Oregon for the PAC 12 title. And even if you don't get into the the title game, you should still end up in a quality bowl game like the Holiday Bowl.

    It would be easy for me to say, "Oregon will cream the Utes," but given Utah's past history against big named teams, I'm not going to underestimate them this time.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:06 a.m.

    There was a big change in my feeling about the BYU--U rivalry tonight as I switched channels back and forth between the Stanford-Cal and UA-ASU games. I was interested in those outcomes, particularly the UA win because of what it means to Utah, but also in watching Cal to see if there is a chance they can beat ASU next week to complete ASU's total implosion. BYU's games mean nothing whatsoever. My immediate neighbors are alumni of UCLA, USC, Stanford, and Colorado. It was a great day talking PAC-12 football on the street.

    Nov. 20, 2011 12:47 a.m.

    Mormon Ute, UCLA looks like the most likely Pac 12 South winner? Really? You realize they play USC next week, right? Like THE USC? #18 about to move maybe close to top 10 USC? No, it's pretty much down to whether or not ASU wants to actually take control of their season against a good Cal team next week. And if they don't, it's up to the Utes to win at home against 2-9 Colorado and go to Autzen (or could it be Stanford with a Civil War upset?).

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    Arizona State just lost again. Utah is 4-4 in conference, ASU is 4-4, and UCLA is 5-3. UCLA will lose to USC next week. Utah has to show up and play hard, but a so called likely win, puts Utah and UCLA at 5-4 each after next week (speculation). Utah has the head to head tie breaker against UCLA.

    If the skidding out of control Sun Devils lose to California, then Utah earns the right to play for the PAC 12 championship under the scenario put forth above.

    Facing Oregon for the title would be a major hurdle to the Rose Bowl, but we the Ute nation will take it. Big opportunities is where Utah and Coach Whittingham thrive.

    One more miracle week scenario left. Then another at Oregon. And yet another in Pasadena. What's left is miracles. Magic happens eh? Come on Cougars that is a little funny.

  • BYU still rules Nephi, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    @SoonerUte: Nice to see even after a mighty pac win, you STILL hearken back to the BYU game to get your jollies. Thought ya'll were way past the whole BYU thing!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:40 a.m.

    So Utah loses to USC by a missed field goal in the Coliseum. Oregon loses to USC the exact same way at Autzen stadium tonight, and yet everyone thinks Utah is so inferior to Oregon...I don't get it...

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:38 a.m.

    Frankenberry, I wasn't trying to call out your fan-ness, just hoping you'd expound a bit. And you did. I see your point.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:34 a.m.


    "There are very few BYU fans on the Utah board tonight, thats unusual...Looks like most of them have givin up on this college football season..."

    lol at the delusional Utah fan spin; why would BYU fans be wasting their time on a Utah blog DURING a BYU game?



    "Just wanted to point out how amazing Kyle Whittingham is. He has taken the first non-bcs team to the big leagues and (assuming the Utes beat Colorado next week) will finish a very respectable 8-4."

    more delusional Utah fan spin; non-BCS teams Cincinnati, Louisville, and South Florida joined the Big East in 2005, six years BEFORE Utah joined the PAC 12.


    Congrats little brother on beating your 4-7 opponent by 3 points in OT.

    Your big brother handled their 4-7 opponent a little more easily, 42-7.

  • Burreyein TEMPE, AZ
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:27 a.m.

    Let's be real, UCLA is playing USC next... if it wasn't for the probation USC would've represented the South division. Utes definitely have a chance playing in the PAC-12 FCG, especially after Arizona State lost to UA tonight. Regardless, it has been an amazing season.
    BYU fans are really bitter and annoying, go away or get on Pac-12 level.

    Great day of college football!

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:18 a.m.

    If we're going off facts and stats, then lets face it, BYU is the best team in teh state...

  • ahmyers San Leandro, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    @Portland Trailblazers

    If anything is evidenced by the way the Pac 12 teams have picked each other apart this year is that there are no UNLVs or New Mexicos in the conference. The teams that are down this year are still dangerous and there is no doubt that they would all easily be heavily favored over every team on BYU's schedule with the exception of Utah, Texas, and TCU... coincidentally BYU's three losses and the ONLY teams on BYU's schedule that have winning records.

    I'll take victories against Arizona, UCLA, and Washington State over victories against San Jose State, Idaho, and New Mexico State any time.

    I'm sure BYU players feel the same way, I hope for their sake they end up in the Big East so the players can at least feel like their competing for something against some other decent teams.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    I hope the Utes continue to improve, but somewhere along the line the offense needs to help White out, 42 carries, a win is a win, but this offense can't compete with the upper tier teams. And one last thing that needs to be pointed out. In watching great teams, they seem to thrive on the big stage. It's a mentality of ...lets play...anytime...anywhere,ie: LSU-Alabama. Something I find consistant with true power houses....They never claim to be BCS bound or National champions before the season begins...They also never have fans who pin their hopes on not having to play two of the top teams in the conference, as well as thank their lucky stars that another top program is on probation...therefore they're eliminated also. People always remember one very simple fact.....You're only the best....when you've beaten the best.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    Congrats Utes. I'm surprised WSU didn't go for the win in regulation, electing instead to go for the FG and the tie.

    So who wins the tie breaker if UCLA, ASU and U all finish 5-4 to go to the championship game to face the Ducks? I wonder what the spread will be . . . I'm guessing the Ducks will be 18 point favorites over any of the three.

    I can't believe ASU lost to Arizona. They are fading fast.

    It's too bad the Trojans aren't eligible. I'd love to see an Oregon vs USC rematch, as would most football fans.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:03 a.m.


    "UCLA looks like the most likely Pac 12 South winner".

    Really? So you are saying Utah has a better chance of losing to Colorado than UCLA has of losing to USC? You do realize if UCLA loses to USC and Utah beats Colorado, Utah and UCLA are both 5-4? Utah holds the tiebreaker buddy. If anything it is more likely that ASU wins the South...All they have to do is beat Cal

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    Over 100 yards in penalties. Not good. If we do make it to the conference title game, we won't beat Stanford or Oregon doing that. The Utes still don't control their own destiny. UCLA looks like the most likely Pac 12 South winner.

    Still I'm excited for the possibility of finishing 8-4 after the way we started Pac 12 play. Go Utes!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:48 p.m.

    There are very few BYU fans on the Utah board tonight, thats unusual...Looks like most of them have givin up on this college football season.. how sad:( although I cannot say I blame them.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    I predicted title game a month ago. You all laughed! Utah over oregon for roses!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    @Portland Trail Blazers | 11:14 p.m. Nov. 19, 2011

    7-4 and soon to be 8-4 is no "fluke".

    Having a top 3 PAC-12 defense is also no "fluke".

    Speaking of "fluke" please tell us why winning Ole Miss (2-9) 14-15 wasn't a fluke? WSU (4-7) is a much better team than Ole Miss.

    Face the facts Utah is the best team in the State!

    Go UTES!!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:29 p.m.

    AZ WON!!! I am starting to smell roses!

    Nov. 19, 2011 11:27 p.m.

    Portland, yeah it's a fluke. A fluke 9/17 leading to a fluke game tonight, which is turning into a fluke 2011 and perpetuating a fluke generation of great Utah football since 2002, and by some random accident we mistakenly got invited to leave BYU behind and move on to bigger and better accomplishments in a new conference.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    Portland Trail Gangster and Worffy...

    Did you read all the props on this site for Coach Kyle? Awesome eh?

    But to round out his performance, can you guy see if having your O line leave the sidelines from the 3 point stance is patented by Bronco? It is really cool and I want to petition Utah to add that to our current regiments.

    It's a pretty good addition to BYU's play book and I feel we should steal it...

    Do that for us and report back...I would hope we could add that for our bowl game...

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    A fluke.

  • Frankenberry Saint George, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:02 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin "Spoken like a true BYU fan"
    Them's fightin' words, cowboy.

    @MiP: I didn't say WSU 'deserved it.' Utah did lead most of the game. It just seemed that when the weather set in; the greatest 12th man there is; we gave up a 10 point lead. Their QB could barely see the receivers he was throwing to. Maybe I shouldn't have said we didn't deserve it but we were lucky to win it. Could've gone the other way real easy.

    Understand guys: I'm as much a fan as you are. I'm glad they won today and in recent weeks. As much as anyone I hope Utah keeps building and improving to the point they're in the discussion with the top teams in the country consistantly. But today showed there's still work to do.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    Re: Portland Trail Blazers

    What would you call the 54-10 beat down of our little brother earlier this year?

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    Congrats on beating the UNLV, Colorado State, Wyoming and New Mexico's of the Pac 12 (Oregon State, Washington State, Arizona, UCLA)...

    Wake me up when Utah actually beat a good Pac 12 team.

    Guess we'll have to see IF it happens next year.

    Nov. 19, 2011 10:26 p.m.

    I couldn't agree with my fellow Ute fans more. This was a great victory over a hot Washington State team that had beaten Arizona State the previous week. This showed a lot of guts in adverse conditions. And White is a beast---one of the very best RB's to play at Utah, and that is saying a lot considering NFL players Jamaal Anderson, Mike Anderson, Chris Fuamatu-Maafala, etc.

    At 7-4, with non-conference victories over an excellent Montana State team, Pitt on the road, and a 54-10 slaughter of BYU, it's been a good season. No one said that playing in the Pac 12 would be easy. But it's sure great to have quality opponents each and every week.

    Go Utes!!

  • scarlet Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    Penalties could have broken it for the Utes, but they pulled it out. Very satisfying win. The Utes are right at home in the PAC. As a fan, this year has been unfolding even better than expected.

    Nice to see games and competition worth seeing, isn't it?

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    Need to get a few things out of the way: 1) I missed the very first part of the game, as it was announced that it would be delayed by 30 mins, so when I tuned in around 3:30 PM, the game was already in progress. Come on KJZZ. Announce it correctly next time. 2) Penalties reared their ugly head again. 3) Disappointing defense in the second half prevented Utah from putting WSU away like they should have. But, I can't expect perfection every game.

    Now, on the positive side, I am amazed at Utah's coaching staff. Most likely Utah will win next week and end up 8-4. That will exceed my early season prediction of 7-5, and had I known Utah's QB for most of the season would be from a no-name junior college that shut down its program, and end up 8-4, I would have freaked out. Now, if a win comes against Colo. I get to do just that.

    Utah has one of the best coaching staffs in the country. Definitely top 10, and probably top 5.

    John White IV gets 40+ carries! That guy is a freak of nature!

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:15 p.m.

    What an absolute gut check! This may have been their best win of the year.

    Well, except for the 54 - 10 drubbing of little brother, of course.

  • FYI Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:53 p.m.

    Well Chris B was correct that through 10 games Utah ranked #1 in the PAC 12 in Scoring Defense, USC is #6. However he was wrong in total defense where Utah was #3 behind Cal and Stanford, not USC #4, Oregon #5, or ASU #7. WSU came in at #8. In fact, the only defensive category where USC outranks Utah is in rushing defense where they are #2 allowing 100.4yards/G and Utah is #3 with 100.8 yds/game.

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    I completely agree. Whitt has put together a fantastic coaching staff and taught these kids to play ball at a level never seen in the state of Utah. Being in the Pac-12 is an incredible experience! Well done, Coach Whitt!!

    Congratulations to the Utes!

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:51 p.m.


    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Utah is #2 in scoring defense and #3 in total defense in the PAC12.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:49 p.m.

    "Looks like Utah and Washington State are the same caliber."

    Worf, then I guess there is a huge separation between Utah/Wash. St. and byu considering the 54-10 beatdown earlier this year.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    Big time in big-time league.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    Just wanted to point out how amazing Kyle Whittingham is. He has taken the first non-bcs team to the big leagues and (assuming the Utes beat Colorado next week) will finish a very respectable 8-4. With a possible 9th victory in a bowl game against another BCS team, which probably is the third highest tier bowl game in Utah history. Utah lost their staring QB early in the season and have been using a QB who did not have one division 1 offer and did not participate in fall camp. Utah returned NOBODY at running back, the only team in division 1 to not have at least someobody who had played before. Utah's RB is statistically one of the best in the Pac-12. Finally, the Utah defense is absolutely tough as nails, one of the better ones in a long time. Whitt should be a candidate for Coach of the Year. What he has done is unheard of, Utah was playing 2-3 BCS teams a year and going undefeated a few times. This year Utah played 10 BCS teams and was kicking a field goal to send the USC game in OT in the Colisium.

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:31 p.m.

    Hate the prevent defense in the 4th quarter, but a win none the less.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:10 p.m.

    Umm! According to Chris B, the utes have the best defense in the pac. Washington State, twenty seven points and Oregon seven at half with USC. Again, Chris off target. USC has a better defense. Yep--Stanford, Oregon and Arizona State also has a better defense.

    Looks like Utah and Washington State are the same caliber.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    Where's Lifelong? U of A up 7-0 at ASU.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    Kyle will be upset with the silly penalties. We will destroy Colorado next week. How about Hayes in the 2nd hale and the Wolfman played like a stud again. The weather was crazy. Utah has a serious shot at playing in the pac12 championship. About a 50% chance. Hard to believe. Keep it up. Going 8-4.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:36 p.m.

    Way to go Utes!! 4 in a row and counting...

  • Ute's R Gr8 Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:35 p.m.

    Isn't it great watching your team play PAC 12 games!

    And beat them!

  • region1fan Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:31 p.m.

    Have to agree with the DB disappearing act. Not good. Thank goodness for a reliable kicker.

  • HarperValleyPTA Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    I like the win but the DB's going MIA the last quarter is disappointing. Immature penalties were also ugly.

    One more next week!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    Change of pace to see a Cougar team that didn't quit.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:06 p.m.

    I thought it was over with Utah leading 27-17 with a little over 6 minutes left after White's 60 yard TD run. WSU made it exciting. I admit to getting nervous, getting a first and goal at the six with less than a minute to go down by 3. Our defense generally played well, but WSU was able to exploit the prevent defense to get it to a tie. Much better defense in overtime, driving the Cougars backwards and setting up the interception, which took pressure off the offense.

    Meanwhile 9 miles away, USU was also in overtime at Idaho at the same time, where they also were able to get the win sealing it with an interception after two reviewed calls went Idaho's way. Aggies keep their bowl hopes alive and with 5 wins on the season, this is officially their best season since joining the WAC 7 years ago.

  • Provo, Ute Fan St. George, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    Great win Utah! Wasn't the prettiest of wins i've ever seen but ill take it considering the weather conditions and how the game played out. A couple of fumbles allowed WSU to stay in the game but as well as their 4 turnovers made for an interesting night. Need to work on penalties! Fun game to watch

    go Utes

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 19, 2011 6:59 p.m.

    This win was special. As in hooray for the special teams.

    With Washington losing, Utah ascends the bowl tie-ins. A win next week, and the Utes (regardless of who plays for the PAC-12 championship) will at least head to the Sun.


    Frankenberry | 6:45 p.m. Nov. 19, 2011
    Saint George, UT
    "Well, they won it. But they didn't deserve it."

    Explain why Washington State "deserved" it. The Utes led for most of the game, forced 4 INTs, and had awesone special teams play. Yet, we're supposed to believe that a team that had a quasi-miracle last drive was supposed to win? But I do enjoy the monster cereals....

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 6:54 p.m.

    @Frankenberry "Well, they won it. But they didn't deserve it."

    Spoken like a true BYU fan.

    Doesn't matter who had more yards, or more turnovers, or more penalties. Winning is winning.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 6:53 p.m.

    On a snowy day in Pullman on Senior night, Ill take any win! Good game Utes! U showed Halliday what a DI defense really looks like (21-48??, 4 INT)

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 6:46 p.m.


  • Frankenberry Saint George, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 6:45 p.m.

    Well, they won it. But they didn't deserve it. How do you give up a 10 point lead in that kind of weather? Congrats Utes, nice win.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 5:14 p.m.


    Nice prediction.

  • International Cougar Fan Tacoma, WA
    Nov. 19, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    I am having problems with my internet feed and can't watch this game. What's up with that?

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    This will be as competitive as the other game with the cougars.