Huntsman calls out 'pandering' Romney

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  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    Sorry about the typos.... was typing on my phone.... should have known better.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 18, 2011 3:18 p.m.

    No, actually my grandmother was quit good friends with the Alice Marriott and family, and threw them out families were linked with the Romney family. We were also attached to the embassy in France, and had connections with the family that way too.

    Since that time I have had business dealings with Bain and company on several deals. I used to work in M & A. Sharing the same degrees at Mitt (JD/MBA), I had worked directly and indirectly with his teams in the late 80's.

    To the Huntsman clan, we also knew them through my grandparents who grew up together. My family has also been deeply tied into Utah politics for the last 20 years, with my uncle serving on his staff. My uncle also served on Mitts fathers campaign committee during his run for the same office.

    Bey hey "Letsdebate"... your on the same continent with Romney now so you must be an expert on his family life as well. Why don't you share. Do I exchange Christmas cards or visit either of these chaps... nope. But I know them from a little closer distance than being on the same continent.

    Nov. 17, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    @UtahBlueDevil - you throw out comments like Truth's talking points "equally apply to Romney." Do you understand the meaning of the word "equal?" I think it's laughable to suggest that Huntsman and Romney relied "equally" on their fathers' largess and influence.

    Regardless of whatever benefit Romney may have originally received from his father to get started, his sterling educational accompmlishments and successful career are self-made successes based on very hard work and intelligence. The amount of coattail riding is nowhere near "equal" by any reasonable standard.

    But hey, if you were on the same continent at Romney during his mission - what, 45 years ago? - who I am to question your insider information about his father's influence on everything after his mission?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 17, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    LetsDebate.... no, his dad did do those things for him... but he sure as heck helped him out. Based on his high school grades and activities, do you really think Romney got into Stanford on his own credentials.

    Every successful person has become so by leveraging their relationships. To say Huntsman has while Romney did not really flies in the face of the history of these two men. They both leveraged their family relationships to get to where they are. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

    And that isn't necessarily a bad thing, unless you weren't smart enough to do likewise yourself. I got my first real job after my mission because of my dad, and have been riding that wave ever since. My father has had little to do with my success over the last 25 years, but without his assistance getting that first position, the other 25 years would not have happened.

    BYW, Romney served in the France mission while I was there as well.... so... perhaps you might just reconsider your remarks.

    Nov. 17, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    @UtahBlueDevil - your post shows a total ignorance about Romney's money and history. I don't know how much he inherited, but I know his Dad didn't do Mitt's homework that resulted in his collegiate grades and accomplishments. I know Mitt wasn't carrying his Dad around when he made millions at Bain. I never heard of Mitt's Dad helping with the Utah Olympics or putting up the money for his run at the Massachusetts governorship.

    Huntsman has only a fraction of personal success that's disconnected from his father, in comparison to Romney. I think your comments show who really has no clue.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 16, 2011 8:14 p.m.

    Truth..... So what do you call it Romney did last election cycle? That was an investment in what? I think your comments about Romney could equally shadow Huntsman. Romney surely benefited from his daddy as well. You comments show that you really have no clue about Romney's history. you picked the absolutely worst talking points because they equally apply to Romney.

  • rigbits Ivins, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 2:33 p.m.

    The reason why former U.S. Ambassador to China, Jon Huntsman Jr. is the best candidate to be President is that he understands China!
    Lets also not leave out the problem of North Korea who is attached to China at the hip-pocket wallet.
    And I dont believe he would jump into another ground war while dealing with China, N. Korea, Iran or others!

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Nov. 16, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    Huntsman is trying anything he can to be relevant. He's been riding others coattails for so long that now he can't find a way to be a factor. He is just as likely to withdraw as a republican and run as BO's vice president as anything. DNews must have an added value deal with Huntsman on his ad buys, the coverage of him in definitely not warranted.

  • don17 Temecula, CA
    Nov. 16, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    Mommy mommy you know what Mitt did?

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    Re: "This is the scary thing about many [M]ormons .. just follow the white horse . . . ."

    I'm not a Mitt fan, but, yeah, we can readily analyze Huntsman's comments and tease from them his real meaning -- don't do anything to make China mad.

    Though he probably disagrees with Huntsman's Chamberlainesque approach, I suspect Mitt agrees with him on American currency manipulation -- we ARE in a bad spot to accuse China because deranged liberal spending has forced us into embracing inflation and devaluation. Surely, you don't blame that on Mitt.

    But, we can't let past liberal lunacy and hypocrisy paralyze us indefinitely. It's the opposite of hypocrisy to point out and own up to past mistakes, then correct them and move on.

    Can't tell whether the horse-color allusion was intended as racial accusation, but I bet more Utah Mormons would prefer following Cain, than Mitt. Even so, all but a tiny few will take Mitt over the current horse any day.

    Not because we don't think, but because we do.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    Donald Trump does a great deal of business in China and he agrees with Romney. Donald says the Chinese are ripping us off and laughing about it. I am not a Trump fan but look for an endorsement of Romney by Donald soon.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 2:15 p.m.

    Amazing isn't it? That John Huntsman can run for president and waste all that money.....and not bat an eye! Must be great to have a dad who pays your bills so that you can look important to a bunch of LIBS who haven't a clue what it takes to be a John Huntsman Sr in the first place......

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    "'First of all, I don't think, Mitt, you can take China to the WTO on currency-related issues,' Huntsman said. 'Second, I don't know that this country needs a trade war with China. So what should we be doing? We should be reaching out to our allies and constituencies within China. They're called the young people, they're called the Internet generation.'" - Article

    Romney is not JUST trying to start a trade war.

    *'Romney: God wants US to lead, not follow' - By Steve Peoples - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/07/11

    *'GOP contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/12/11
    "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," vowed the former Massachusetts governor.'

    And yet:

    *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11

    I am NOT in the mood for another war based on the lie of 'WMD's' and cost ANOTHER $3 trillion dollars and...

    4,000 American lives.

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    Huntsman has a point.

    However, we wouldn't be in this boat if we weren't so manipulative with our currency. We are doing the EXACT same thing China is... We can't expect to believe that our Federal Reserve and monetary policies are more innocent than theirs. It is the same game.

    If we had a commodity-backed currency instead of a loosely-based fiat currency, then we wouldn't be in this mess anyway. The U.S. Dollar would always be strong.

    Monetary policy governed by the Federal Reserve is a huge problem.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Nov. 15, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Don't they all pander? That's what politics is about!

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    critical thinking, yes, always critical, no. good luck and have a great day.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Nov. 15, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    Clark is right. Real governing is about knowing the details and using them for everyone's benefit, not just to be confrontational. Pandering means declaring everyone else "enemies" and making threats that, if carried out, would end in disaster. Polls (and the audience for this event) aside, Huntsman scores on this one.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Darrel: spoken like a true American, very inspirational on you end!

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    @ ute alumni, I guess the answer to my question for you is no, correct? Are you capable of any critical thinking whatsoever?

  • radically_independent Orem, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    Understatement of the week.... and the thing that holds me back the most from supporting Romney.

    Romney - Stand for what you beleive in yet stay teachable.

    You weren't a NRA member until you ran for President. What? You just discovered you owned a gun - or perhaps it was you decided you wanted to pretend you were pro gun.

    I wish the real Romney would show up and just let us vote on him as he is... not as he thinks will get him elected.

    He is for universal coverage except when being for it will keep him from being elected.


  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    At this point all want is someone to bubble to the top who can beat Barack Hussin Obama in a year. My T-Shirt says "ABO For President 2012". ABO stands for Anybody But Obama. I believe any of the GOP candidate would be light years ahead of what we have now in the White House. Romney, Huntsman ..... doesn't matter. Just need to get rid of this virus called Obama.

  • Gr8Dane Tremonton, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    Looks like somebody wants attention! And it's not Romney. Maybe those tacky websites and you tube videos by the Huntsman daughters aren't having much impact?

  • Sikeli Herriman, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    And Huntsman knows a pander when he sees it. He went to China after all! They are sooo cute!

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    Unless there is some major swing in support Jon Huntsman Jr. will not be the Republican Candidate for President. If Romney gets the nomination Mr. Huntsman will not be the VP candidate either but he is certainly one of the best, most qualified persons to become secretary of state.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    is this article only being responded to by mormons? glad you always find a way to bring your mormon drivel to light. remember, half of the state is non mormons and the rest of the readers may also be. look at jr's record and you'll see why many don't want him for president. you might consider wandering back into your phone booth and get out of that tight suit..

  • PA Rock Man Allentown, PA
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    Romney, pandering?

    No kidding!

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    Amazing how multi-billionaires have so much to say about our nation...
    have they ever had a callous, or a dirty finger nail? I think not. Has Huntsman
    ever worked a day in his life to earn any of what he has? Now he wants to be
    President...that's nice.

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    It's my impression that Huntsman resents Romney's Olympics work.

    If you remember, when the 2002 Olympics became scandalized and the governor was looking for someone new to head up the organization, Huntsman volunteered. He said that "people close to him" (people he didn't name) were encouraging him to volunteer. And as we all know, Romney got the offer, and he took over and did a great job.

    Consequently, there is some resentfulness, and it's showing.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 15, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    So are any of the Romney supporters here capable of giving this article a rational thought and actually responding to Huntsman position here, cause he may actually be correct. Is your poster boy on such a high pedestal that no one could be correct if their opinion opposes Romney's opinion? This is the scary thing about many mormons .. just follow the white horse no matter where it may lead you.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    good for you. o is doing a great job. fortunately, utah will not vote with you.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    Darrel, well said. I could tolerate Romney as president, but Huntsman clearly outweighs him in foreign affairs matters, also better on social policy, and I'd bet he'd do almost as well in economic matters. No, better there too because he is a truly balanced, rational leader. Huntsman was right when he called Romney a weather vane.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 9:05 a.m.

    I hope Mitt can bounce back from Huntsman's rebuke. He might need the 14 voters who are supporting Huntsman.

  • Darrel Eagle Mountain, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    Huntsman is the only Republican I would even consider voting for in the General election next year. He seems to be the only candidate not trying to out right wing the others. He appears to be the most calm, collected and moderated tone of any.

    If anyother candidate wins the nomination, I will simply cast my vote to re-elect the President.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    jonny jr
    and what is it that you are constantly doing. go work for your brother and get out of the limelight. you have no chance. remember, you are not jon sr.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    And Huntsman is irrelevant...

    He must not want a job in Romney's administration.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Nov. 15, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    I really wish Johny Boy would go back to China or where ever he calls home and quit taking up space in this or any other election.

    Nov. 15, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    Go Jon Boy!