PSU trustees fire Paterno, Spanier

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  • Peter Coyotl West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    Firing Paterno was the right move. McQueary also needs to be removed. How can anyone witness a child rape and not call the police? I wonder how any man could walk upon the crime of child rape and not immediately intervene to stop the act.

    McQueary failed in many ways. So what if he feared for his job? If your job is dependent upon being quiet about child rape, other than reporting it to authorities who did nothing about it, then you have a job that is not worth keeping.

    How did McQueary sleep nights?

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    @Just the FAX

    Your name is ironic. The perp wasn't JoePa's assistant coach at the time. JoePa wasn't a witness to the crime. Were you there? Did you personally see and hear what JoePa did with the information? He has admitted, with the benefit of hindsight, that he didn't do enough. But he did something about it. I'll reserve judgement until I have more FACTS about this case.

    Again, he doesn't deserve this at this time.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    I have talked to an Attorney and they said you can get an grand jury indictment on a ham sandwich.

    What evidence do you have? you have a highly slanted grand jury report. You have ALLEGATIONS not evidence.

    Second, IF we are suppose to report Suspected Abuse. Then why are you not convicting MeQuery? he saw the abuse and went home.... wow... Talked to his dad, then the next day went to Jopa. Jopa WENT directly to the AD.

    So if you all for Jopa being demonized then you need to do the same thing for this McQuery.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:47 a.m.


    "So you are convicting someone without a trial right?"

    There's ample evidence to support suspected abuse. Talk to any attorney familiar with child abuse law and you'll quickly learn that you are REQUIRED to report SUSPECTED child abuse to legal authorities.

    It's not up to you, or Paterno, or the school president, or the AD to determine if the abuse actually occurred.

    Sandusky will get his day in court, as will Penn State authorities who failed in their duty to report the suspected abuse.

    The Penn State board of trustees had no choice but to fire Paterno.

    They could hardly afford the public relations nightmare of seeing thousands of Penn State fans on national television cheering for a coach who was suspected of failing to do everything he could to protect young children from being sexually abused.

  • SouthernUtahUte Hurricane, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    Wait, wait, wait. Let's get this right.

    Mike McQueary still has a job....? He WITNESSED the crime happening and did nothing! That is much worse than anything Paterno "didn't" do!

    What about Sandusky? I want to hear about what is going to happen to Sandusky, and how long he is going away for.

    What about McQueary? Shcultz? Spanier? They are all more to blame than Joe Paterno. Why McQueary still has a job, I have no idea.

    Let's get this right: Paterno didn't do enough. That's evident; but none of his superiors did enough either. As a university, Penn State fires Paterno, but McQueary is still coaching? That is downright ridiculous.

    Sandusky needs to be charged and arrested, bottom line.

  • CaliforniaCougar Lake Elsinore, CA
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Remember recent reports that have said that there are only two football programs to win AP national titles that have never been on probation? Penn State and BYU.

    Ironic that both schools were in the spotlight this year:

    One school did self report and one did not.

    (Both situations were non-NCAA violations)

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:22 a.m.


    "Paterno doesn't deserve this."

    Paterno absolutely deserves this.

    Everyone at Penn State from the school president, to the AD, to the head football coach knew what was going on and did nothing to stop it. Nobody even lifted a finger to find out who the first victim was.

    Anyone who wants to defend or feel sorry for Paterno needs to ask themselves this question:

    How would you feel if that was your 10-year-old son being sexually assaulted in the Penn State football showers by one of JoePa's assistant coaches, and when JoePa was informed of the assault, he wasn't concerned enough to even find out the name of your son, let alone do everything he could to ensure that the assault was fully investigated by legal authorities?

  • Pawps Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    Say it ain't so Joe!

    46 years of greatness, tarnished because he didn't make a stronger stand.

    Its worth throwing a friend under the bus to help a child.

    Sad day in Penn.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:16 a.m.


    So you are convicting someone without a trial right?

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    I love how everyone like to convict on a simple Grand Jury indictment.

    You do realize that any DA worth his salt could get an indictment on a ham sandwich right?

    Jopa did inform his superiors as per State Law. It was the responsiblilty of the AD to inform the Authorities.

    This is nothing more than finding a scapegoat for the Regents, President and AD office screw up.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    Penn State is a just few miles from Independence Hall in Philadelphia. I couldn't help but consider and compare the demonstration last night to the truly significant events that have occured in that area in American history....

    Is a lawyer wasting his time on-line today? I am curious about the legal implications against these two individuals. They certainly failed in their moral obligations. However, neither had first hand knowledge of the event and neither will be considered mandatory reporters. I have a hunch that all they will lose are their reputations and legacy. Which, for Paterno, is the greatest price of all.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 9:07 a.m.


    "The incident was reported to Paterno and then by Paterno to PSU officials. This was not associate with the football program or in any way to the team or current staff."

    Penn State gave Sandusky emeritus status when he retired in 1999, allowed him to set up an office directly across the street from the football training facilities, and allowed him unrestricted access to the Penn State campus - Sandusky was seen in the football training facilities just last week, the day before the grand jury report was released.

    Every single person who even suspected child abuse had a legal responsibility to report it to legal authorities. Every single person who witnessed child abuse occurring had a moral responsibility to intervene. At the very least, JoePa should have loaded Mcquery into a car and driven him down to the Division of Family Services and asked them to listen to what Mcquery had witnessed.

    Penn State failed miserably in their primary duty, to protect kids from being abused while on Penn State property.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Getting Paterno out of there is the right move.

    We all need to send a message to Pedophiles and anyone who tolerates or protects them that no matter how long it takes to discover their activities when we do then they are finished!

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    witch hunt.

    Paterno doesn't deserve this.

  • Peter Coyotl West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 7:44 a.m.

    Joe Paterno set a record for most career wins by a coach by obstructing justice. He knew about the rape of a child by one of his coaches, and he,along with many others at Penn State, did not do the right thing. Instead, he chose to protect a friend who is a pedophile; he chose to protect his football program; and he chose to protect his football legacy.

    Before this story broke I admired Joe Paterno for his great coaching career. Now I see him as a scoundrel who failed to protect the most valued commodity of our society-our children. The only record I acknowledge Paterno holding is his record for protecting a pedophile who continued to commit heinous acts because Paterno, and others in positions of authority at PSU, refused to, morally and ethically, do the right thing.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 6:45 a.m.

    "Paterno said in a statement earlier Wednesday that he was "absolutely devastated" by the abuse case, in which his former assistant and onetime heir apparent, Jerry Sandusky, has been charged with molesting eight boys over 15 years, with some of the alleged assaults taking place at the Penn State football complex."

    Sad to say, but this response by Coach Paterno is totally inadequate.

    Over the years, one on one, he's got in the face of at least a thousand of his players and commanded them to "Put up or shut up. If you don't want to do the job, turn in your uniform and your and leave it to the men on the team to get the job done!"

    In your position, Coach, you fumbled the ball and gave away the game. You failed to step up, stand up and be a man.

    There's no justification in the world for failing these eight innocent children.

  • JJ1094 Saratoga, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    The PSU Board of Trustees did NOT do the right thing - the caved to political correctness. Facts are just not there to make this a Joe Paterno problem. Sandusky left Penn State in 1999. Sandusky was observed with the victim in 2002. The incident was reported to Paterno and then by Paterno to PSU officials. This was not associate with the football program or in any way to the team or current staff.

    It would make just as much sense to blame the parents of the boy - did they come foward yet? This is just a incredible spin on what "coulda" or "shoulda" been done by whom.

  • S.Andrew Zaelit Deseret, UT
    Nov. 10, 2011 1:23 a.m.

    Heinous crime no doubt. Heads will continue to roll. I doubt Penn St, has enough insurance to cover the lawsuits that are going to come down as a result of this. One thought here though that makes me wonder. Mike McQueary saw an assault and reported it to Paterno. Paterno reported it to his supervisor. Now Paterno is gone, the University President is gone. Both had a moral duty to do more. Early reports claim Paterno followed the statute yet morally he should have done more. Why is Mike McQueary still employed when he should have done more both morally and ethically after seeing an assault? There is no room for a double standard or moral ambiguity in cases like this, period.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Nov. 9, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    The Penn State Board of Directors made a courageous and painful move tonight. Letting JoPa coach Saturday and "leave on his own terms," would simply be saying that PSU cares more about institutional damage control and JoPa's legacy (and the bucks created by football) than about honor, integrity and the pain that their negligence has caused young victims. Penn State (other than the idiots who place their icon and football fun on a higher scale than the protection of children) should wake up tomorrow, saddened--but proud of their administration. Horrifying mistakes have been made, legends have fallen and will be tainted for life, victims lives have been ruined by an old boy network that played hush hush because the old boys club and the schools reputation were deemed the most important (sound familiar, Roger Mahoney and Cardinal Law...). But this administration and board has claimed that, beginning Wednesday evening at about 10 Eastern time, Penn State University is playing a whole new ball game. Bravo. Be proud! You are Penn State and you will have better days ahead.

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    Nov. 9, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    1. I am a Joe Paterno fan.
    2. I am greatly saddened by this entire scandal, but JoePa, as Sandusky's boss, should have done more, which he admitted he didn't.
    3. When the lawsuits are over and Penn State has paid out millions for this, those losses should come out of the football program's budget. They should not raise tuition or fees, passing the bill to the students.