Romney has best plan for replacing a bad health care law

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  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Nov. 7, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    Romenycare and Obamacare are both based on the Republican plan of 20 years ago they proposed as a promised alternative to Hillarycare.

    Watch the last republican debate. Romney got mad at spilled the beans the rest of us allready knew. ROMNEYCARE IS A REPUBLICAN PLAN. And Obamacare is just like Romney's plan.

    And Romney's promise to prove Opt outs for states is rediculous. The states can allready opt out if they come up with something that acheives the same goals.

    Republicans just have no intention of being christian and helping the sick be cured. Admit you worship the golden calf of greed.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    'Romney has best plan for replacing a bad health care law' - Title

    But Healthcare reform or 'Obamacare' was BASED on Romney's healthcare plan for MA!

    Now the Republican party is claiming they have a 'different' healthcare plan?

    Where was it in 2001!

    No. I have yet to see the Republican party do anything substantial about healthcare reform when they had control of the House, Senate a Presidency from 2001-2006.

    Now, they have all the answers??

    This, is what it was like under Republican 'leadership'...

    'Wellpoint Drops Coverage For Some Women With Breast Cancer' - By Mary Ellen Egan - Forbes Magazine - 04/23/10

    'Yesterday, an investigation by Reuters revealed that Wellpoint routinely drops coverage of women with breast cancer. According to the report, Wellpoint used a computer algorithm that automatically targeted...'

    Since Romney is now FOR a healthcare plan...after he was against it...before he supported it...

    I see no reason to give the Republican party support, for something they 1) helped BASE our current plan on and 2) FAILED to accomplish when they had control of this country.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    Yes, hold it against only against Obama. The Romney campaign wil sell blinders and kool aid to assit.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    Obama has taken us from a deficit of $10 trillion incurred since 1776 to 2008. Since Obama took over ( two years after the Democrats won control of Congress) we have gone to a $15 trillion national debt. We have not mentioned unfunded social security, medicare, etc. And you want to vote him back? China, India, Russia realized that socialism was a failure and have gone to their own brands of capitalism(private ownership of business and industry). So you don't want capitalism what do you want? The "fringe like" tea party is so bad? All the tea party wants is less regulation, not no regulation, red tape is killing our industry. We also want a balanced budget, free enterprise, more drilling and energy independence. Is that so radical? Sounds like right down the center to me.

  • Cora Smith BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Nov. 7, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    The GOP offers nothing new. Do we need more of the same?

  • T. Party Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 6, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    JoeBlow: "Haven't free market forces gotten us where we are today with regards to healthcare?"

    No, not really. A lot of government intervention in the health care market has gotten us here. The solution is not "more of the same." It's especially not "double down."

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 6, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    He won't get rid of obamacare because that would be such a damaging blow to his massive ego. If you take the time to read the obamacare bill, a lot of it isn't even about healthcare reform.

    Romeny has got the majority of his campaign money from wallstreet. So if he's elected, who do you think he will listen to? Your or wallstreet? Obama listens to wallstreet but liberals are too dumb to recognize that.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 6, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    Healthcare in GOP circles has devolved into vigorous opposition to ideas they originally came up with - eg, the individual mandate - to the GOP frontrunner hiding from his own reform effort, deferring to a States Rights position as a means of appeasing rightwing anti-US government fanatics.

    I don't think anyone would call that leadership. Really, it's cowardice.

    Presumably Romney would be fine to sit back while states under-bid each other with lax health insurance standards in an effort to pull businesses away from each other. It looks like many would be happy if employers were able to stop offering insurance, en masse, as it would lead to more jobs (presumably).

    But, this recession is an acute lack of demand, not businesses crumbling under regulations they've had for decades. Businesses are flush with cash, but won't hire because their customers aren't buying. If we reduce taxes on the rich, they won't hire more people. This is lost on most of the rightwing talking points.

    When the veneer is stripped away from shallow & meaningless platitudes for posturing, Romney advocates the US sliding more toward third world levels of income & wealth distribution.

    No thanks.

  • The Missing Link A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Nov. 6, 2011 12:52 p.m.

    This is all the GOP has, that's running for President in 2012. "NOTHING". They remind me of this. Romney vs Cain, Perry and Huntsman in their own flip flop vaudeville comedy routine, is to Abbott & Costello on stage in Who's On First, and that's all the RNC has?.

    Costello: What's the guy's name on first base?

    Abbott: No. What is on second.

    Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

    Abbott: Who's on first.

    Costello: I don't know.

    Abbott: He's on third, we're not talking about him.

    Costello: Now how did I get on third base?

    Abbott: Why you mentioned his name.

    Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?

    Abbott: No. Who's playing first.

    Costello: What's on base?

    Abbott: What's on second.

    Costello: I don't know.

    Abbott: He's on third.

    Costello: There I go, back on third again! PAUSE

    Costello: Would you just stay on third base and don't go off it.

    Abbott: Alright, what do you want to know?

    Costello: Now who's playing third base?

    Abbott: Why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

    Costello: What am I putting on third.

    Abbott: No. What is on second.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Nov. 6, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    "Really? Haven't free market forces gotten us where we are today with regards to healthcare?"

    I would argue that government involvement has played just as much of a role in rising health care costs as the free market.

    Financial Aid and government run student loans were meant to give more the opportunity of going to college. What has government action done? They have been involved for decades now and college tuition prices are skyrocketing. I heard one analyst on TV the other day say she knew of universities who set tuition not based on demand or value, but by how much federal student aid they believe the students can receive.

    The collapse of the housing market is another example of what happens when government colludes with private or quasi-private companies to try to fix a problem. The government's artificial inflation of the housing market led to the eventual bust and the destruction of what many called "a safe investment". If the Affordable Care Act actually reined in big business and cut into obscene profits, companies like Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson, and GE would have opposed it. It is telling that they supported it.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 6, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    We need a single payer health care system, and to get the insurance industry totally out of it. Care is not insurance.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 6, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    #1 Despite Romney's pledge a president cannot overturn a law with an executive order. Moreover, the health law lays out an onerous process for letting individual states off the hook from its requirements; that process cannot begin until 2017.

    #2 The CBO projected the public option would save $115 billion over 10 yrs.--twice as much as tort reform. Pres. Obama made an offer to Republicans in the SOTU speech to put tort reform on the table. However, Republicans continue to refuse to come to the negotiating table. Vermont is moving forward developing a single-payer plan which has been projected to decrease the cost of healthcare moving forward.

    The author held positions in the Bush Administration. One would think he would be better informed.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Nov. 6, 2011 6:52 a.m.

    I'm not in love with Obamacare.

    But lets be clear.

    The GOP is, and has been content with the state of health care.

    They have shown NO willingness to make any changes when they have had the power to do so.

    So, while there are certainly problems with Obamacare, know that the GOP plan is to bring the system back to where it was 2-3 years ago.

    With unsustainable rising premiums, less coverage and more and more people falling into the ranks of the uninsured.

    So, fine, get rid of Obamacare.

    But does anyone think that reducing lawsuits and allowing insurance across state lines will really make a dent in the problem?

    And lastly, "we need to bring back free market forces"?

    Really? Haven't free market forces gotten us where we are today with regards to healthcare?

  • Mike in Texas Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 6, 2011 6:37 a.m.

    This commentary is long on assertions and short on facts. Costly? Too early to tell for certain, but the CBO has calculated that it will reduce health costs. Unconstitutional? The courts seem split on that issue, but even if it is found to be unconstitutional is is only the individual mandate that is at issue. You can't keep your existing plan? The new law has a grandfather clause that allows businesses and individuals to maintain their existing plan, unless they make choices under that plan that weaken it.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Nov. 6, 2011 1:53 a.m.

    The Affordable Care Act is based on his plan for Massachusetts which he recommended as the model for the rest of the nation.

    Of course that was before he flipped and needed to appeal to the Tea Party fringe.