Amy Choate-Nielsen: Conversion: Most American adults have changed faith

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  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 5, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    My religion is the one true religion, and yours isn't.

    My scriptures are correct, and yours aren't.

    I'm right and you're wrong.

    God is on my side, not yours.

    There, I think that pretty much covers it.


  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    Bill in Nebraska:

    I agree. I wish more people would recognize this too. I'm typically one of these who say "those liberals are doing it again!" but I only ever mean "Those people who take liberalism and twist it to infringe freedom, rather than protect it." I consider many of my views to be compatible with both conservative and liberal premises. I generally don't find conflict between them nearly as much as the mainstream does.

    The only problems arise when the mainstream teaches one philosophical twist, which members choose over church doctrines instead. This happens with both parties on different issues, imo anyway.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Nov. 4, 2011 6:20 p.m.

    Either baptism is essential or isn't. The nicene creed is true or false. Truth is truth regardless of belief. You could choose to believe or not believe in gravity. But can you change the law of gravity by beliefs? Like science and math religios truths are indpendent of beliefs. If everyone chooses to believe or not believe something it still does not change truth of it.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    Nov. 4, 2011 6:01 p.m.

    To Hutterite: That is very inconceivable as there are many Latter-Day Saints that are democrats. In fact you will find that in the current Quorum of the Twelve there are probably 3-4 that are. There is a greater number in the Quroum of the Seventy so again to say what you said is just as wrong as someone saying that you can't be a Mormon and be a democrat. The same can be said of Catholics as not all are democrats. So I think you need to revisit and see that what you said is totally wrong.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    There are so many choices out there, you'd think it's a buyers' market. But they all claim exclusive 'truth'; it's a pretty safe bet that some of them at least therefore must be wrong. Then, when you do choose you have to fully buy in exclusively. This means you also exclusively buy out of all the rest; you then associate this exclusivity with your political affiliation and there you have it. Politics in America today, as divided by religion.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Regarding the 'unsureness' of which religion to join- I would offer this:

    From Joseph Smith's King Follett discourse,

    "There are but a very few beings in the world who understand rightly the character of God... and consequently they know but little above the brute beast..."

    The beast "eats, drinks, sleeps, and knows nothing more about God; yet it knows as much as we, unless we are able to comprehend by the inspiration of Almighty God. If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves. I want to go back to the beginning, and so lift your minds into more lofty spheres and a more exalted understanding than what the human mind generally aspires to."


    Some argue that religion is fancy, illusion, and/or arbitrary tradition- such claims lack substance as much as the idea of religion they fight.

    However, in the LDS faith our faith is built in works, revelation, and testimony. We preach a true gospel, not a blind one. The Book of Mormon is a literal witness, an account of others testifying of God's ministry on this Earth.

    It is easy to see why, without revealed truth, so many are religious 'wanderers'.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    I find that religion is music for the masses.
    Leaving organized religion, was the best thing that happened to me.
    Taking the great teachings absent the dogma, leaves one with many truths and peace.
    Religion in general pits man against man in some imaginary battle for the souls after life.
    God must be challenged every day by those who purport to speak and act for him.

    Somebody once said, "None of the churches got a corner on the truth," and it's still true.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    The "truth" is not the same for everyone. Appreciative of the fact that there are many choices for all of us.
    I understand this is a very difficult thing for the LDS to assimilate.

  • noneck62 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    I changed my Religion from Mormonism to the Episcopal Church, and I am very happy with this change; I have NO PLANS on going back to Mormonism.

  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    My heart goes out to those who face challenges in life and face uncertainty in their current church. Discovering discord between your thoughts and the teachings of your church is unsettling and can be the cause of much turmoil.

    During such times, as I see it, a person has two basic choices: 1) Go in search of a church that teaches doctrine closer to your way of thinking; or 2) go in search of truth, beginning with the basis for the teachings of your church in hopes of finding the truth. When truth is discovered, you're home.

    It seems to me that, if a person believes in an all-knowing, all-seeing God, they would choose the latter path and go in search of truth, as God knows it. I feel for those who go in search of a church whose doctrine matches their own thinking. That's not a path back to God.

    Peace accompanies the discovery of truth. Long-term peace comes from the discovery of the source of all truth. We can either find a church that teaches what we believe ... or find a church that teaches what God knows and yeild our beliefs to God's will!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    people who change from one protestant church to another usually do so because they tend to like the new minister more or some other personal thing. They aren't changing churches because they are searching for truth - just a life style change and personal preference. All protestant churches are basically the same as far as doctrine goes - they all mistakenly follow the traditional Nicene Creed and as a result are left wanting with unanswered questions regarding the very nature of God as well as the nature of eternal life.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 4, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    "That ye be no more like children, tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine".

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Nov. 4, 2011 7:25 a.m.

    How many people look at truth when it comes to religion and choose to go there? Since God does not need instruction from his children on how to be saved and true doctrine from above cannot be created by man and truths cannot conflict.

  • mountain man Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2011 7:21 a.m.

    and the point of using a stock photo of someone with their hands in a praying position is what again? isn't mr zimmerman's hands in a praying position adequate....please don't junk up your photo's of the story with stupid stock photography.....thats all i'm saying..