Real Salt Lake advances despite Seattle's 2-0 win

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  • georg Parowan, UT
    Nov. 5, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    20 posts and not even near the soccer hate we saw in the past, Progress is being made.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 3, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Sanford, I agree 100% with your last comment. It doesn't make any sense at all that opening rounds are aggregate and the semis and the final are a single match. But trying to figure out MLS' playoff structure is like trying to figure out how the BCS works.

  • Sanford SANDY, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    Brave and Caleb, I understand the problem with a best of 3, that is why it should be a one and done. It seems weird that the first round is a two game aggregate, but the semis and final are one and done.

  • PHealey Holladay, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    The officiating was lopsided in many ways. We could not get organized because they would cheap shot us and not get the call. We ended up just clearing it out of the backfield to rest. When a team attacks as much as sounders were should have the fouls to show for it, but the inverse occured. Sounders fans thought it was great but a lover of good soccer could see this was leaning toward the sounders from the outset. Even the penalty kick could have gone either way. Who grabbed who first in that? I was shocked the first goal was disallowed but I guess it was to obvious of a foul.

    Good luck RSL against MLS Media darling

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    Congrats to RSL! The only reason I'm a fan is because I was foreign exchange student in Mexico City during the World Cup in 1986. It was a blast.

    Watching the game was frustrating to say the least. Playing a defensive game was smart but I would have loved to have seen at least one goal from RSL in this one. Great fans in Seattle.

  • Nussdorfer AC Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    Advancing is what matters most. RSL did it. Hopefully they can regroup for the semifinal.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:15 p.m.


    I appreciate what you're saying, but a multi-game series wouldn't work in soccer. It's too physically demanding of a game - you can't play back-to-back like in baseball or basketball. There has to be time between games. Think of how bad the NFL playoffs would drag if every matchup was a 3-game series. Not even the World Cup Final has multiple matches.

    What I like about the aggregate scoring model is that neither team can afford to take their foot off the gas, ever. Even in a blowout, you have to keep playing hard. Imagine if RSL had called off the dogs up 2-0 on Seattle at home with 5 minutes to play - they wouldn't have scored that 3rd goal. Seattle's 2-0 win last night would have sent the game into overtime and Seattle likely would have won. I think it's awesome that a "meaningless" goal late in a blowout ended up being the difference in the series.

  • Nikolas Sabaan Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Playing not to lose puts you in a losing position. A high school team could play better than RSL played last night. Where was the control this team has had the last part of the season?

  • Beaker Draper, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 11:47 a.m.

    @Portland Trail Blazers,

    Kind of sad that you're trying to start something with basketball fans. Just because most of us don't understand what the big deal is about soccer, isn't a reason to start an argument.

    Enjoy the win and have a Capri Sun on me.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Nov. 3, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    @ Sanford - There was only one game that RSL won 3-2. RSL was ahead 3-0 at halftime and Seattle came back and almost tied it up.

    While not impossible, longer series, such as a 3 game series, are difficult to pull off for soccer and are definitely more difficult to pull off for soccer than for basketball or baseball because longer recovery times between games for the players is necessary in soccer. One soccer match has a greater toll on the player's body than one basketball game or one baseball game does. Under the current MLS and international rules, each team has a limited amount of subs (3) available to a team during a game. With so much running for the players occurring during a typical soccer game, the teams need three or more days of rest between games.

    A longer series in soccer would therefore be far more dragged out than a longer series for basketball or football.

  • crunchem Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 3, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Or, to look at it another way, imagine a long drawn out seven game series we are so familiar with in major sports compressed into a two game series, with each team having one game of home field advantage. In case of a tie (each team wins one game) the tiebreaker is who scored the most total goals. This certainly encourages full effort play through an entire match, because one extra goal can be so valuable in the long run. It avoids the "garbage" time you see at the end of an NBA blowout.

    The last fifteen minutes last night we some of the most frenetic action I've ever seen! And a 4-5-1 defense..? WOW!

    Kudos to Keller for a great save on Espindola at the end; great way to end a career and keep the Sounders alive to the very end.

  • Sanford SANDY, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    It would be much better if it were a one game win and advance or a best 2 out of 3.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Nov. 3, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    I think the best way to think of aggregate scoring is to explain it that there was only one game in the RSL-Sounders matchup, with the first half of the game played at RSL's stadium and the second half of the game played at Seattle's stadium.

    So even though RSL lost the second half, they still won the game.

    That was a pretty soft penalty for Seattle's first goal but it definitely added to the drama at the end when Seattle had 30 minutes to get the equalizer.

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    The beautiful thing about aggregate scoring is that it takes into consideration your play throughout the whole series, rather than just a game at a time. In the end, Seattle was punished for giving up a goal in the 88th minute when they were already down 2-0, giving RSL a 3-2 win overall.
    Yeah, RSL did not play great last night, but it was something that they were able to do because of how well they played at home the game before.

  • armchairQBonthehill Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    Seattle is weak - - played that way Sat. night. Last night the Sounders played like a bunch of pansies all game long - - touch them and they fall, look at them wrong and they wince like they've been punched in the gut, looking for every opportunity to get fouls / cards on RSL hoping the referee would honor home field advantage. That is not the way American Footbol should be played. Glad it worked out for RSL - - to give the center backs more rest. I hope at least 1 will be able to play in the next game - maybe both.

    Go Red Bulls - would love to have another one here at Rio Tinto.

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 7:20 a.m.


    its aggregate scoring. RSL won 3-0 in the first game. So, they essentially started last night's game with a 3-0 lead. Since Seattle only won by 2, RSL advances.

  • njndirish NOTRE DAME, IN
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:33 a.m.


    MLS rewards strong regular seasons of teams by merging the table at the end and giving spots 7-10 wildcards rather than seeding them in their conference like NHL and NBA do. This is better because it eliminates many bad teams that could sneak in like they do in the NBA and NHL and allows the teams that play in the better conference in.

    RSL won the East and NY have won the west in previous years I believe

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 3, 2011 12:15 a.m.

    Wait... what?

    RSL loses but they advance?

    This is indeed a weird kicky ball activity.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 2, 2011 11:57 p.m.

    I admit to knowing little about soccer, but RSL deserves congratulations nonetheless. However, how can a league be taken seriously that has New York in the Western Conference?

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Nov. 2, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    Kind of sad that real got a championship before the jazz

  • Laurels Sandy, UT
    Nov. 2, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    That was quite a header Beltran came up with, saving what looked to be a sure goal by Seattle in the first half.