BYU football: Cougars have experience winning at Cowboys Stadium

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  • SoUtHapa Saint George, Utah
    Oct. 26, 2011 8:47 p.m.

    No disrespect, but none of us tell it like it "is" when predicting outcomes. The are just that, predictions. Nothing will qualify for an "is" until the final score is posted on the scoreboard. Here's to your opinion!
    Comments you make that, just my opinion, have yet to be proven:

    That OU team was only overrated after Bradford went down which was during that game.

    Offense struggling? Maybe, offense much improved, but untested would be more accurate.

    Don't have the horses? We have plenty, I just think it's a matter of the right guys on the right seats on the bus, if you will, long enough to get the necessary chemistry.

    Where I agree 100%, defense is a big question mark. Two of the most dominant players on the roster are on this side of the ball, Van Noy and Pendleton, but they can't do it all. Either things will improve or it could get ugly.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    @coach Biff

    No kidding, like you I see the glaring issues in the secondary and hope the coach's have been working particularly close with the cushion Eason gives to every WR even the ISU players.

    The name of the game Friday night is attention to detail baby.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers Anaheim, CA
    Oct. 26, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    Only in Ute nation would a "fan" spend the vast majority of his day slamming a non-AQ team that is supposedly "irrelevant".

    That 0-4 PAC 12 monkey is really starting to take its toll.


  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Oct. 26, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    @Biker 100

    Yes... It's hard to argue...Utah and "Wynnie The Do" did have a good game against BYU...if you really want to call it that... which as of now is looking like that will probably be Utah's entire season in a nutshell the way things have gone for Utah since. And Yes BYU did implode on themselves during that game and undeniably Heaps fizzled miserably...but isn't that just the point of the ficality of football. Still just as last least... it's not BYU that's in a flaming downward the moment. And that brother says volumes to where each program stands at this time. Come this weekend we'll know a lot more. I predicted a loss to Texas and a loss at TCU...but the Utah game caught me as well as almost everyone else ...including many Ute fans... totally by surprise...something we'll have to live with...So enjoy your bragging rights...because that's all you'll probably have.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 2:09 p.m.

    @ Biker 100 | 1:58 p.m. Oct. 26, 2011
    Sandy, UT

    54-10 never happened. Look at all the posts since then by Cougar "fans" and you will see that is never occurred. Only in Cougar nation would a "fan" spend the vast majority of his day slamming the team that humiliated you earlier in the year. Priceless.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 26, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    Biker 100

    Utah 54 at BYU 10
    BYU 38 at OSU 28

    According to 54-10 "logic", Utah should beat OSU by at least 64 points, but we all know Utah's chances of beating OSU are 50-50 at best.


    54-10 was a fluke.

  • Biker 100 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 1:58 p.m.

    If this will be the toughest game of the year, as you said, does that mean the score will be worse than 54-10?

  • Fubecao Bellevue, WA
    Oct. 26, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    Of course, TCU already has a win in Cowboys Stadium too.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 26, 2011 12:55 p.m.

    Deductive reasoning: thank you for emphasizing those points. Just a little added info for those who want to know. The '09 OK team finished the season averaging 32 points per game and the four other teams they lost to (Miami FL, TX, NB, TX Tech) had combined records of 41-13. Furthermore, this was a defense that returned most of its starters -- a defense that held some very tough opponents in 2008 to an average of 23 points per game.

    This was no cream puff team even without Bradford.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    and the Cougs quit.


  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Oct. 26, 2011 11:22 a.m.


    "Remember that same OU team ended up at 8-5 and were not ranked."

    Nice spin, but you conveniently ignored the big picture:

    Oklahoma had three of the first four players selected in the NFL draft, including #1.

    Sam Bradford played the entire first half and the game was tied when he was injured.

    All five of Oklahoma's losses were to Top 25 teams, including four losses by a total of 12 points:

    #12 BYU 14-13
    #19 Miami 21-20
    #2 Texas 16-13
    #14 Nebraska 10-3
    #21 Tx Tech 41-13

    Oklahoma ended the season shutting out #25 Oklahoma State 27-0 and beating then #21 Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

    Oklahoma barely missed finishing #25 in the AP poll and finished #29 in the Coaches poll:

    Final 2009 AP Poll
    #25 West Virginia 91 points
    #26 Oklahoma 90 points
    #27 Oregon St 89 points

    btw, BYU's bowl opponent, Oregon State finished #27 in both the AP and Coaches polls, after being #16 in both polls before BYU destroyed the Beavers in the Las Vegas Bowl.

  • newintown WOODS CROSS, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 10:50 a.m.

    @ Ute trolls:

    4th and 28.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    It'll be a good game!

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 26, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    The keys to this game are turnovers and if the BYU secondary can handle the TCU pass game. Hopefully they will benefit from playing two pass-first teams in their past two games. That should give them plenty of plays to look at and hopefully the BYU defensive coaches will see just how many times teams threw toward Eason and just how many times the balls were completed. Maybe, just maybe, they can make a move to correct that.

    I would love to see a BYU DB actually break up a pass, without PI, rather than have the WR make the catch for 8 yards and then see them come with a big hit and jump up and start screaming and jumping as if they just did something great. How about actually preventing the gain in yardage?

    Let's go Cougs...RISE UP!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Oct. 26, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    So Vegas... Let's not "Monkey" around here. Whom did you play as a lawyer...Clarence Darrow...or William Jennings Bryan??? The rationale of your pathetic "Evolutionary" analogy rides on the part. Regardless...Jimmy loves having the Cougars come to his stadium...and wants this to be an annual event.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Oct. 26, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    This will be the toughest game of the year, hands down.

    If we play well, we can pull it off. I like Jake Heaps but feel more confident with #13 starting.


  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 26, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    Sam Bradford played most of the game, before being injured against BYU. BYU was competitive even when Bradford was still playing. With Bradford, the '09 Sooners were a Top 10 team.

    The keys to a win against TCU are turnovers and defense. We need to keep the turnover margin at 0 or in the plus category for the Cougars. And our defense needs to have their best game of the year. TCU's offense is not in rebuilding mode after losing Dalton, they simply reloaded and are a high powered offense. We must keep them below their average. If we keep them in the 20's, we have a good chance at winning.

    Prediction: BYU - 27, TCU - 24

    I'm surprised the odds makers have the Frogs as 13 point favorites. If I were a betting man, I'd take that bet.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 9:05 a.m.

    I am not a Ute troll. I'm a died in the wool BYU fan. The Cougars will be in deep du du at Cowboys Stadium on Friday night. TCU could phone this game in; but won't. They will blitz the Cougars big time. Oklahoma was extremely overrated in that last Cougar victory. This is 2011. As I have already mentioned in a previous message board item, the Cougars are struggling offensively and defensively, and don't have the horses in this one. I see the score something like 45-20, TCU, best case scenario. Not enough thugs on the Cougar squad to pull this one out. Sorry Cougar fans. I have to tell it like it is.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Oct. 26, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    " .....when the Cougars upset then-No. 3 Oklahoma, 14-13, in the first collegiate game played at the new $1.2 billion, 3-million-square-foot domed Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, before a crowd of 75,437 and a national television audience on ESPN. The improbable victory sent shock waves through the college football world."

    This was only one of many "improbable" wins over the years by the Cougars. The ute trolls can't stand it. And Johnny Harline is still open.

    Go Beavers!!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    Dear Vishnu: The Oklahoma quarterback went down because of BYU!!!!

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    TCU's team speed will once again be a problem for our secondary which is susceptible (sp?) to the long ball. I feel good about the front 7 but I still cringe when I see speedy recievers running free in the deep. We really need to clean that up.

  • vishnu Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 7:54 a.m.

    Remember that same OU team ended up at 8-5 and were not ranked. It was a nice win but once the QB went down it was not a good OU team. Now if you would have won with Bradford in at QB that would be different.

    Oct. 26, 2011 7:22 a.m.

    Beating OU of 09' is a lot more difficult than beating this year's TCU.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 6:57 a.m.

    Jealous much?
    Attorneys are a scourge to our nation. Good analagy between you and them. Bad to compare the Cougars to them. They have played exactly one time in the Cowboys stadium and they have won exactly one time in Cowboys stadium, against the #3 team in the country.
    I think you should have been in bed by 9:30 last night.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 26, 2011 6:48 a.m.

    See folks, there really are wonderful advantages to football independance! What other team from Utah can have the experience of playing in this venue?

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Oct. 26, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    Most folks post to make a valid point. Others post silly nonsense and think they've made a point. Even so, here's hoping the Cougs will have a repeat of their previous "winning experience" at Cowboy Stadium.

    To make it two wins in a row in Cowboy Stadium against those tough Horned Frogs is no easy task of course. But, I don't believe it's impossible.

    Go Cougs!

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Oct. 26, 2011 6:01 a.m.

    As was mentioned, it will be important for the Cougars to focus on their play and not the distraction of the venue...go Cougs, focus on playing hard, celebrate,after the game is over, not at any point during the game.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Oct. 26, 2011 12:48 a.m.

    >I'm going to go get a job as an attorney because I obviously have experience, having played one once in a play.

    Very poor analogy. Now, if you had actually won a court case against an elite team of attorneys that were expected to roll over you, then you would have a relevant analogy.

    Best of luck in your future endeavors.

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 25, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    "Cougars have experience winning at Cowboys Stadium"

    Ha! 1 game, that's a good one.

    I'm going to go get a job as an attorney because I obviously have experience, having played one once in a play.