Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb: Was Utah's redistricting process fair and open?

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    Re: one old man | 11:52 a.m. Oct. 24, 2011
    "Don't all citizens of Utah have the right to ask questions and receive answers?"

    As a school teacher you should know that you have a 1st Amendment right to SAY anything you want within reason. (You can't yell "fire" in a theater and you can't joke about bombs at the airport.) But no, you don't have any "right" to receive responses from Jason Chaffetz or anybody else. You're going to have to get used to being ignored by Mr. Chaffetz for a long long time.

  • Brer Rabbit Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 24, 2011 12:16 p.m.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, just as "fairness" is in the political eye of the beholder when it comes to re-districting. Relax this will be a non-issue before the end of the year.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 24, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    No Rifleman, no one in Chafetz's office ever saw my email. It was automatically rejected by his computer system because my zip code indicated I was out of his district.

    You need to answer the simple question: How can a "Representative" live outside the district he "represents" if other citizens have no right to question him no matter what district we live in? Don't all citizens of Utah have the right to ask questions and receive answers?

    I could understand this response if I had been writing from southwestern Alabama, but last time I checked, I'm still in Utah.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 24, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    Fair and open?? Kinda like Fair and balanced reporting from fox news. Its just a sound bite. Closed door practices from the GOP legislaters gerrymandering districts, I hope the voters make them pay but we all know this is a pretty red state. Between the caucus system and this process the crooks in the GOP have a stranglehold on pollitics in the state. Get off your duffs Utahn's and show these people we arent going to take it any more.

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    Oct. 24, 2011 5:25 a.m.

    "Office-holders expend resources and effort to be elected, and they deserve (and the constituents they serve are entitled) to have incumbency a consideration when redrawing boundaries."

    Where are the Occupiers when you need them? Surely, they would protest such an arrangement. And, the rest of us should, also. It simply isn't a good thing to encourage public offices to be bought and sold. Our redistricting should not endorse such a practice, but instead seek to draw the lines just to suit the public.

    To the victors go the spoils? And, we say they are entitled to lay aside the betterment of the public so they can draw the lines for the betterment of themselves, the politicians? No, I don't think we need to grant them such a thing. They are elected to serve us, not themselves.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 23, 2011 7:34 p.m.

    Re: one old man | 3:36 p.m. Oct. 23, 2011

    Rob Bishop is the congressional representative for Utah's 1st District which includes Ogden. Perhaps Mr. Chafetz' staff sensed that your e-mail was frivolous and rightfully determined not to waste his time responding to it.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 23, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    The Tribune reported that Becky Lockhart stated that the only request for special consideration in drawing new boundaries came from Jason Chafetz who asked that his district lines be drawn so that he will actually live in the district he is supposed to represent. It seems it's not necessary for a representative to actually live in their district.

    But this morning, when I tried to send an email to ask Chafetz a question, it was rejected. Why? Because I don't live in the Third District.

    Do I smell a bit of Republican hypocrisy here? Sort of smells like the elephant enclosure at Hogle Zoo.

    I also don't believe Lockhart, either.

  • goatesnotes Kamas, UT
    Oct. 23, 2011 3:03 p.m.

    "Redistricting" - "Fair" - "Open" - all oxymorons that do not belong in the same sentence anywhere in America. If your party wins the election in the year the census is taken you are free to draw the boundaries anyway you choose. It's the consequence of election victory. The pretense that it's going to be any of those oxymorons is simply stating facts not in evidence anytime, anywhere, anyway.

  • Instereo Eureka, UT
    Oct. 23, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    There is plenty of blame to go around about the redistricting process. Of course you can say it was open because of all the statewide meetings. You can also say it was rigged because of all the closed caucus meetings. You can say it's fair because districts are "equal" in their numbers and political composition. You can also say they were rigged because they divided communities along arbitrary lines. I think the bottom line to whatever you say about the process, it would be much harder to criticize a non-partisan commission.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Oct. 23, 2011 4:08 a.m.

    I always thought public office was a public service. That one served because they wanted to contribute to the betterment of all. I didn't realize that they deserved the right to incumbency, after expending resources (in the words of Mr. Pignanelli). Maybe this the root of our problems. When are we going to ever revisit term limits, not only locally but nationally? Get away from this sense of entitlement and get back to a sense of service.