View from the Booth: Utah Utes football: Utes can have a winning season

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  • PAC 10.2 Doormat Springville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    Utah High School Conference Standings

    1A Whitehorse and Altamont 1-6
    2A Parowan 0-8
    3A Tooele 0-8
    4A Cyprus 0-8
    5A Weber 0-8

    Big Boys BCS

    Utah 0-3

    Utes 0-3

  • ClassyUte SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 5:49 p.m.


    BYU's whole schedule is pathetic when compared with Utah's. I don't even know why this is an argument. We played one of the better FBS teams, a horrible BYU team, Pitt, and probably the easiest pac-12 conference schedule. At the end of the day, Utah's SOS is still way tougher than BYU's SOS that they are "breezing" through. I guess you can pat yourself on the back for being 4-2 right now though.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 14, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    Utah'95 | 1:03 p.m. Oct. 14, 2011

    Okay Montana State is a legit team that's beaten the cream of the FBS. Humboldt and Minot are not found on the Sagarin.... hmmmm. But Byu's opponents are a joke since they are rated low and they haven't played and beaten those kinds of teams. Sorry guess I just don't get that.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Oct. 14, 2011 1:03 p.m.


    1. The USA Today Sagarin ratings from 9 OCT have Montana State at #90.

    2. Where did I say that "any of BYU's opponents couldn't hang with Montana State?" I just pointed out that the most often quoted computer ranking says that the Bobcats are respectable, and are likely better than 4 of BYU's opponents this year. But since you brought it up, I doubt that #213 Idaho State will be able to "hang" with MSU!

    3. Whether you have heard of Humboldt State (I have, by the way) or not is irrelevant. The computer's algorithm is designed to remove bias (like you just demonstrated) from the argument of who is better than who. The computer's analysis isn't always right, but it is more likely to be right than either you or I are.

  • alsoaduck COTTAGE GROVE, OR
    Oct. 14, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    I am a BYU grad and a 15 year Oregon Duck season ticket holder. I was really hoping that the U would show the PAC that the MWC was as good as they are. I told lots of people in Eugene that the U would not only hold their own but could become one of the better teams in the conference. Now I am not so sure. Unless there is something done about the QB situation I see a problem for quite a few years. Who is going to QB for the Utes next year? If is is the one with both shoulders in trouble then the Utes are in trouble. If it is a JUCO transfer, they have to hope he gets a lot better and if it is a freshman get ready for an early season learning curve. I hope I am wrong because I am taking a lot of grief from the guys here.
    By the way, I sure hope my cougars can take care of business this week. Loosing to OSU would be even worse than losing to the Utes.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 14, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    Utah'95 | 11:52 a.m. Oct. 14, 2011

    Not sure where you are seeing a Sagarin rating of 90 for Montana State, I'm seeing a 64 on USA today.

    Yes Montana high is 5-1 but lets look.
    They beat UC Davis who lost to Humboldt State??? Who and where is that? I defy anyone to tell me they have heard of this school without googling it.
    They beat Minot University, again same question.
    Sacramento lost to Weber nuff said there.
    Portland State: Destroyed by TCU and beat nobody but they have a winning record.
    Can't convince me as to why any of Byu's opponents couldn't hang with Montana State.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Oct. 14, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    A series of observations:

    Riley says, "While this may not be a championship season, establishing yourself as a program that can compete week-in and week-out is vital. So far, the Utes have proven that they can do that."

    Maybe if the games only lasted two quarters each!

    Utah is 0-3 in the Pac-12, and have been outscored 46-14 in the second halves of the last two games. Until they can put check marks in the win column, they haven't proven anything.

    While it is possible that the Utes could win out, it's extremely improbable.

    I would love to get a win at Pitt, but it will be difficult.

    To those who have ridiculed Utah for scheduling Montana State, have you noticed that the Bobcats are 5-1? BTW, their Sagarin rating of 90 is better than four teams on this year's BYU schedule.

    This year's schedule is the toughest one the Utes have played to date. If any of you know different, please tell me.

    I predict the Utes will finish 7-5. Anything better should be viewed as a great success in their inaugural Pac-12 campaign. Anything less will be disappointing.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 14, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    jake heaps = ben olson | 9:48 p.m. Oct. 13, 2011
    Wow then that makes the Utes a horrific team at 2-3, ouch!

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 11:00 a.m.


    yet again, you need a fact checker. Oregon and Stanford are not on Utah's schedule next year either. You would think someone who passionately follows utah football like yourself would know that.

    BTW, did you figure out that Utah only needs 6 wins this year to get bowl eligible, or are you still claiming 7?


    yeah, I actually have to agree with you. Riley is a week-to-week kind of guy and for him to say this now when he said a couple weeks ago that the critics had been answered seems kind of silly at best to me.

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    oh boy....

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    It was just 2 weeks ago riley was telling that utah had "answered all the critics".


  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    Utah might get 6 wins this year if they can beat either Pitt or Cal on the road. My guess is 5-7 Those of you who think that the Utes have a shot at winning the PAC South next year may have overlooked a few things. USC, Stanford, Oregon, ASU and the fact that U will have either a JC transfer no one wanted, a true freshman or a senior that will be lucky to last 5 games starting at QB.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 14, 2011 12:38 a.m.

    I disagree, we are going 9-3 and winning our bowl game. If Graham were healthy at Pitt then I could see 8-4, but hamstrings don't heal quickly and Utah will get a break against Pitt. GO UTES!

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    Using the blowout of your own team as the basis of your trash talk defies all logic. Maybe it's just me though...

    No matter what certain "fans" (as Duckhunter would write) say, 54-10 is 54-10 is 54-10. That result has also happened the previous two years that the game has been played; also, 7 out of the last 10.

    Life is good in the Pac-12. I get to wake up and walk a block to beautiful Rice Eccles Stadium and mingle with fans from new and interesting places. I enjoy my free meal provided by the MUSS. I then make my way to the stadium and get to watch top notch football against storied teams. Being in the Mighty Utah Student Section is an experience I would definitely recommend.

    Go Utes! Beat PITT!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 14, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    Bill Riley, August 31, 2011

    Utah now controls its own destiny when it comes to the BCS and potentially a National Championship.

    Bill Riley, October 13, 2011

    Winning the Pac-12 South and playing in the first-ever Pac-12 championship game was a long shot this season.

    Bill Riley, October 13, 2011

    I've maintained all along that next season was going to be the year for Utah to make a push for a Pac-12 South title, with just 10 seniors on the current depth chart and a quality recruiting class in the pipeline.


    Serious, those are the three talking points most my Ute fan buddies have had this year, Bill.

    Pre-season: Smelling like roses, baby. Can you say NC? It's a great time to be a Ute!

    End of ASU game: Well, winning the South was a longshot.

    This week: We've said all along that "next season" would be the season where we will play in the Rose Bowl, and the NC!!! It's a great time to be a Ute!


    Really, Riley, any of you buy this stuff?

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 13, 2011 11:47 p.m.

    Uteology | 5:49 p.m. Oct. 13, 2011
    Fort Worth, Texas

    "In just 4 years Washington went from being 0-12 to 4-1 this year. Why? They finally have a good coach."

    I say we give Kyle a chance.

    Kyle thinks he needs bigger, faster players.


    Uteology, using your special research powers, will you Google that for Kyle and get back to us?

    How does the U get the bigger, faster players?

  • jake heaps = ben olson Utah, UT
    Oct. 13, 2011 9:50 p.m.

    Oops, my bad. Hurricane High schools is 4-0 in region, and 7-0 overall. They are way better than BYU.

  • jake heaps = ben olson Utah, UT
    Oct. 13, 2011 9:48 p.m.

    Re:PAC 10.2 Doormat

    Hurricane High School is better than BYU.
    Hurricane is 4-0, while BYU is 4-2

  • PAC 10.2 Doormat Springville, UT
    Oct. 13, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    "Utes can have a winning season..."

    ... in their dreams.

    Beating BYU 54-10 is, was, will be the crowing jewel of a 4-8, 5-7, etc. glorious (all the way to the Rose Bowl not) season. Yippee!

    We love our weak remaining schedule, Utes showed the way last year through cupcake 'strategery'. Big difference will be that the Cougars will actually have chance to win their bowl game.

    In the end it's always about season W/L, nevermind about who you lose to, right Utesies???