Utah Utes football: Utes still not out of conference race

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  • Cougs4Life Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 8, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    We can all agree now...the Utes are NOT going to the PAC 10 Champions and will NOT be going to the PAC 10 Championship. But...the Vegas bowl is looking for a good match-up for BSU or TCU? Hopefully U get enough wins to qualify for that beat down!

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 11:39 p.m.


    Your team's problem is obvious. They're out in the cold and nobody wants them. And this independence idea only works if you don't lose football games. So unless BYU can figure out how to do something that it hasn't been able to do since 1984, this independence thing is going to lead to one irrelevant season after another. Many BYU fans have clued into this fact, hence all the blue faces today.

    Enjoy the rest of your WAC-Lite cupcake season. I'm almost curious myself to stay up REALLY late on Saturday to watch Riley Nelson and company take on the powerhouse SJSU, with support from the droopy-eyed boy on the sidelines.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:10 p.m.


    "weeing (sic) what the team down south is going through... glad we have a cellar to dwell in..."

    What pray tell is 'the team down south' going through as opposed to the train wreck in progress at Uteville?

    You got a couple of things right... 'cellar to dwell in' if the Utes don't post a win this next game and 'lucky' for a bowl game. Not what the masses were predicting for the first year in the Pac 10.2 and definitely not 'rosey'.

    Blame your recruiting staff, what a lousy position to be in and it could have been mitigated. A simple spreadsheet would have told a Mighty Mites coach that a good strong backup QB was needed on the roster.

    If the Utes had a resilient and experienced QB, if, if, if...

    Sorry Hays, not intending to slam you, but you have a big opportunity here, from a no jc program situation in Nebraska to a rookie season in a BCS conference, so good luck to you. You're going to need it.

  • myphed SOLDOTNA, AK
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    The staring safeties suck, put Blechen and Bird in. With the current line up we will get beat every time. No chance of beating ASU or any other good team. Until the coaches wise up we'll keep losing.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    This is a big game:
    Ranked opponent.
    Chance to prove you belong.
    Chance to get back in the race.
    Chance to get back to a winning record.

    Big Game. Hopefully, they can pull it off.

    Go Utes!

  • PAC 10.2 Doormat Springville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:09 p.m.

    Do I detect sputtering engine sounds of a plane trying to get to Pasadena???

    This is a far cry from the hype of fans marching their team to the Rose Bowl in its first year isn't it?


  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    There is no way the Utes are going to win the conference. The quarterback play is not there, nor is the defense. We will be lucky to be bowl eligible.

    However, weeing what the team down south is going through, I'm just glad we have a cellar to dwell in until this team gets healthier and stronger.

  • SoCalUtahFan Uteville, CA
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    The sky is not falling.
    The odds are against the Utes.

    But, I still believe in the coaching staff and the players will be able to pull through this.

    Good luck, Jon Hays.
    Play your best.
    Don't turn over.

    And....don't be a Jake!

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 5:27 p.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin

    "How's BYU's conference race going? You guys going to hang a banner that says "2011 Provo Independent Conference Champions"?

    I noticed at the u that u have a banner bragging about an undefeated season, but no National Championship. I know how much u like banners, but maybe you should wait until u have a real NC to put up a banner. Don't be so hung up by banners, if you want one that bad I guess you could make one up like u did when u were trying to steal the show after an undefeated season a few years ago. How did that work out for you. I was living in Big 12 country at the time and they all about laughed their heads off. As for me....I just laughed along with them.

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    By the way, if I were a Ute fan I would be extremely concerned for Saturdays game. Because according to U, U have only played 2 quality opponents this year....and lost both of them.

    I would consider ASU another quality opponent. Not looking good for U.

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    The way I see it, its all about wins and losses. Sure you guys are in the Pac12 and most BYU wish they were playing in a BCS conference, but what good does that do when you cant compete?

    Looking back on history no one is ever going to ask who the Utes played to go undefeated in '08, just like no one cares who BYU lost to in a 7-6 '10 season.

    If you want to say "we are playing high caliber opponents every week!" thats awesome for you, but you still have to win. Justify it however you want, but a 6-6 season is still a 6-6 season no matter how you slice it.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 6, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    That is the right attitude. We get to watch our team lose to a higher quality team. Just like a Utah ST. fan told me as we were walking out of LES last week. She said "well at least we won most of the game." I almost fell down, laughing so hard.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 6, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    ute4ever - problem is, u will lose most of the rest of your home games, while the Y will not. I am glad u ponied up all that money to watch your Utes lose at home so much. BYU lost as many home games as you will win at home this year. 1. Too funny.
    Chris Hill Thanks you for your contribution to the first and worst PAC 10.2 season for the Utes.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    The Utes have no shot at winning any division or championship this year. It's all about recruiting. They simply don't have the horses, ponies, or doggies; however you want put it. They do have a shot of winning the UCLA, Oregon State and California games, but that is all. All you unrealistic fans need to come back to reality. Go Utes.

  • RT Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    Ute fans are absolutely delusional. You guys do realize that you have ZERO (0) yes, NOT 1 Pac-12 win under your belts and you honestly are thinking about playing for the Pac-12 title and Rose Bowl. I can't actually believe someone is that irrational that this thought would even cross your mind.

    I am still laughing right now.

    Las Vegas Bowl or bust!

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    Love the chatter from the haters watching the big boys play football from the sidelines. Clearly that 44 point lesson we taught you still stings. Your season is over, but at least you still have all that hate for our program to keep you going!

    Welcome to our articles :)

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    A lot of BYU fans minimizing the Utah progam on here because of losses to USC on the road and Washington at home. The sky is not yet falling for me or for Ute fans. The bigger question is why do BYU fans want the sky to fall so badly? If Utah's program is really in shambles as much as BYU fans on here seem to insinuate, then where is the BYU program that got embarassed by Utah by 44 points in their own stadium?

    I don't see the Utes in the championship game this season. Next year will be the year they compete, with Jordan Wynn as a senior and all of the skill positions back. They have very few seniors starting this year, so that should help their cause next year. That said, there are scenerios where the Utes could be there....its not out of the realm of possibilities.

    In contrast, there are no scenarios where BYU is in a championship game....none at all. And if they lose, at least we get to see them lose to ASU rather than to an Idaho State team.

  • NC FROGS 2010 Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    Whit said that the winner of the South won't have three conference losses...it sounds like he already agrees that the Utes are out of it...there is no way that the Utes win all seven of their remaining PAC 10.2 games. But don't worry, the Las Vegas bowl is still a worthy goal. I for one hope you achieve it.

  • goinfishn Orem, Utah
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    The Utes have as much of chance of going to the Rose Bowl this years as does BYU. The Utws and the Cougars are both a sad bunch this year. Go fishin for your entertainment they are a bitten at the berry.

  • Montana Mormon Miles City, MT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin:


  • Mr. Caveman Omaha, NE
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    The game plan for ASU is simple. Pressure Utah's new and very inexperienced QB by blitzes and constant, varying defensive looks, get your DB's in situations similar to where he was picked off vs. Washington, and don't give up the big plays. Utah's running game has looked terrible, so they'll have to hope that continues.

    Utah needs wondrous things to happen on defense and special teams if they want a chance in this game. Tricks plays and successful fakes are also crucial. They have these in the playbook, and they'll probably have to bring them out.

    ASU knows if they win this game, it's between them and UCLA for the title.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    @Montana Mormon

    How's BYU's conference race going? You guys going to hang a banner that says "2011 Provo Independent Conference Champions"?

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:10 a.m.


    thats a nice theory, but sad to say i am not any of those other users. I have been a member of the Des News for about two months. Before that, I just read the stories. Not sure how you can link me to those other people, the only one i have ever seen is duckhunterr..

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Cougar fan here hoping the Utes beat ASU. It ain't over till it's over and we'll find out this weekend. GO UTES!

  • Mesa Coug Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Come on now. It could happen. Utah could win its next 8 games, win the conference championship and play for a national title. Really though what are the chances. Get real and get ready for a beat down against ASU.

    ASU 38
    Utah 9

  • El Capitan LEHI, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    It's kind of funny what people will resort to after getting absolutely pounded by their rivals by 44 points, at home nonetheless. It's like "Hey, our team sucks so bad that we're going to give up on them and just hope that our rivals lose too so that we can have at least one thing to be happy about this season." I guess that's all that's left to do when your remaining home schedule is San Jose State, Idaho, Idaho State, and New Mexico State.

  • Montana Mormon Miles City, MT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    "Utes still not out of conference race"


  • 4BS St George, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    The only silver lining for the Utes is that they don't have to play Oregon and
    Stanford this year, or it could get really ugly. They will not only lose to ASU, but to Cal and UCLA. They do get to play Washington State and Arizona who are bad. So when it's all said and done, the Utes will end up in the middle of the pack.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    @kosta fesenko aka "duckhunterr", "officer coolguy", "articuno BYU", "duckhunter hunter", etc.

    "Wow....I leave this thread for an hour and I come back to find that the usual trolls are out and about"

    I love it when you whine about other posters being trolls LOL! Especialy considering how many screen names you have and the fact that even your statement above is a lie since you posted as "duckhunterr" during that hour you lied about "being gone".


  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    So much for the utes winning the pac 10.2.

    Oh the dreams of playing in the Rose Bowl and then the National Championship so that they can be like their big brothers.

    Hey utes, it's time to wake up and go to school. Get up off your mothers couch and tidy up your little space and thumb a ride to the elementary school.

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Wow....I leave this thread for an hour and I come back to find that the usual trolls are out and about.

    Most of you promised that you would enjoy Sep. 17. Makes me laugh that you didn't learn your lesson then.

    Utah is going to be fine. This game will tell us a lot though.

    Check your math TJ, Utes only need 4 more wins to get bowl eligible. Wins count no matter what.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    The Utes had the easiest road to the Rose Bowl that any team has ever had...

    Key PAC-12 programs are historically weak this year, and Utah looks like it will cede the Rose Bowl to another mediocre PAC-12 team.

    I hope the Utes can win this week and keep their Rose Bowl hopes alive. I am afraid, however, that this is simply seeing with rose colored glasses.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    That was a pathetic attempt at humor fake duckhunterr.

    Reality is going to set in for Utah fans this week.

    I thought they would have a decent chance to make some noise this year.

    I was very wrong.

  • Black Knight American Fork, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Chris B. The only time the Utes will play in Pasadena during the next 20 years is when they are the visiting team versus UCLA.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    Duckhunter said:

    "Well the pac10 is not all that good so if the utes cannot win the south division that says alot about the state of their program. Looking at the games they have left asu is about the only one that is even semi formidible. But that doesn't mean the utes are going to win any of the other ones because they are just one more of peice of the mediocre whole that is that pac10.

    I predicted 5-7 wins going in and they will be hard pressed to get to 7. 5 is far more likely."

    Ah such bitter words from a fan. Will a conference invite ever arrive for BYU?

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    Delusional thinking my friend. The Utes hopes of winning the South division died last Saturday with the loss to UW. This Saturday is merely a formality for ASU. Utah will be very fortunate to even be bowl eligible, let alone play in the conference championship. They have to win 5 more games and they have lost to two middle of the PAC teams already. Losses to ASU and PITT will put them at 2-4. They will be lucky to beat Cal to finish with 6 D1 wins IF they don't lose to WSU or one of the other PAC patsies.
    I was pulling for them to win the South but it ain't gonna happen this year.

  • Duckhunterr Highland, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    I wish that BYU was as good as the Utes......unfortunately, we just aren't. Frankly, the Utes are so superior that we should have to play at RES 4 times for every time they come to our humble abode in provo.

  • GACougar Atlanta, GA
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:15 a.m.

    "This is a competitive league. Every week is going to be like this," Whittingham said. "I don't know if people thought we were going to come in and take the Pac-12 by storm and just walk through it. That's not reality."

    Yes, they did. Now, not so much. Just a few dreamers hanging on.

    Welcome to the new reality. Welcome to the PAC 10.2.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    Utes still not out of conference race . . . yet.

  • sldad Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:01 a.m.

    Chaz Walker had a major Freudian slip when he said it would take a top-notch effort to get "thongs" done. Or the writer gets a "D" on this paper for his lack of proofreading. Funny stuff, though.

    On the topic, the Utes are showing mediocrity like every other team in Utah. Previous teams would have shown better in the PAC-12, but they are down a bit this year. It happens to ALL teams. Case in point--Texas has a 5-7 year last year, surprising everyone. The real challenge for Utah going forward is recruiting. It is doubtful in my mind that being in the PAC-12 will instantly boost recruiting to the level they need. It may never happen. BYU has problems recruiting to Provo and the honor code. Utah has the same problem on a smaller scale. I would love to see the Utes be a force in the conference, but I predict they will compete for the PAC-12 championship every 5 years.

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:58 a.m.

    Uhmm, yah it's pretty much over. ute lineman are going to have to hold, grab and tackle ASU d-line to give Hays even a small chance for success. Flags are going to fly like crazy on Sat. There will be a lot of stretched jerseys.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    Stick a fork in the Utes - they're done.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:54 a.m.

    Utah will win the PAC 12 south division in our FIRST year and battle with Oregon for the FIRST PAC 12 championship. I admit we got lucky avoiding stanford and Oregon this first year.

    Pasadena here we come!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:54 a.m.

    If the Utes win the next two, ASU loses the next two, both win out after that and the Utes are tied but own the tie-breaker. That's reality. Saturday is the first big "IF."

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:48 a.m.

    Well, if Chow can get Hayes up to speed and Oregon beats ASU, and Utah wins the rest of their games, and then gets the tie-breaker, and if Jupiter aligns with Mars, and....

    ASU 38
    Utah 10

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    "Well the pac10 is not all that good so if the utes cannot win the south division that says alot about the state of their program."

    The bigger question is, what does that say about a program that loses to utah, at home, by 44 points?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:27 a.m.

    Well the pac10 is not all that good so if the utes cannot win the south division that says alot about the state of their program. Looking at the games they have left asu is about the only one that is even semi formidible. But that doesn't mean the utes are going to win any of the other ones because they are just one more of peice of the mediocre whole that is that pac10.

    I predicted 5-7 wins going in and they will be hard pressed to get to 7. 5 is far more likely.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 7:09 a.m.

    I believe there's a lot of people in the state of Utah that hasn't been living in reality this year.

  • PistonHonda Houston, TX
    Oct. 6, 2011 6:37 a.m.

    I've been reading for 1 year from Ute fans how the Utes had a cakewalk in their mind to the championship game. What's happening?

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 5:37 a.m.

    "Turn out the lights the party's over".

    AA this before it ever got started.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    Give it a week or two and it'll be over for the season. Next question is will they remain bowl eligible?

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Oct. 6, 2011 12:16 a.m.

    it ain't over 'til it's over

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    I'm a realist and I'm looking from a neutral standpoint, the Utes are out.

    They're not going to beat ASU, and with that loss, that will be their nail in the coffin for them in the Pac 12 this season. They're not beating Cal, Washingston State, Arizona or UCLA either.

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:46 p.m.

    It's do or die time this week. If we win, we're right back in it. If we lose, it's the end of any hope of a conference championship this season.

    Honestly, my biggest fear is of a conference win becoming a monkey on our back. Even if we lose this week, we need to keep battling to get that monkey off before if turns into a 500 lb. gorilla and we miss out on a bowl this year.

    That said, I have a surprising amount of confidence in John Hays. At the beginning of the year I thought if Jordan were to go down, we'd be finished. Now, after seeing John play against BYU and UW, I have some hope that he can come in and perform well enough after a week of preparation to get a win.

    Go Utes!

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    Utah at 0 - 2 in the PAC 12 is where Larry Scott thought they would be when he required them to play this season for nothing. Come on Utes. Come on Kyle. Prove to Larry that he was wrong. Learn from the legend down South and turn this season around like Bronco did last year and is doing again this year. Prove to the PAC 12 that you are worth more than you are being paid to play this year which is nothing. Come on Utes....Come on!Yes you can. Yes you can. Follow Bronco's example and you will have a win in the can

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    I'm looking forward to the game Saturday. The Vegas odds makers have us only a 3 point underdog. I know that's not always the predictor of success, but it gives me some hope. If Coach Chow can tailor the offense to Jon Hays skills, I think we'll do fine. Time to dig deep and gut it out.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    I have been saying this all week. Arizona State has a guaranteed loss against Oregon next week. That means if we beat ASU, which I believe we will, we control our own destiny to the Pac 12 championship game. Everyone agrees only Utah and ASU have a chance to win the division.

    When we beat ASU, we hold the tiebreaker over them as clearly Oregon will steamroll them. We still control our fate. It still could be a very Rosey year. Hayes will "rise up" with Chow showing him how.