usbummer:"It is my understanding that BYU has been invited to
join the Big 12...This Okla. State fan would be thrilled to see this."Oklahoma St. fan? Whatever. It's been MY understanding that the only
people who have heard those rumors wherein the Y had already been extended an
invitation are cougar fans. How is it possible that every run of the mill Y fan
all across the country has that inside scoop, but sports media giants such as
ESPN, Sports Illustrated, CBSSports, and Phil Steele are all out of the loop?
And out of the loop STILL, despite this leaked information?
Hmmm....implausible.ESPN has only reported that the Big 12 was
"considering" the Y. Of course they've ALSO mentioned considerations
for TCU, Houston, Louisville, WVU, & Cincinnati [among others] as well, yet
no Frog fans, [Houston]Cougar fans, Cardinal fans, Mountaineer fans, or Bearcat
fans have heard rumors that THEY've been invited. And haven't there ALWAYS been
rampant [albeit unsubstantiated] frantic and emotional rumors that the cougars
have been extended [if not close to finalizing] invitations to AQ conferences
since the dawn of the BCS? Seems a lot more like "same story, different
chapter" to me.
JohnInSLC:While it's true that the SEC WAS ogling Va. Tech, the ACC
schools all recently signed $20 million buy-out clauses to ensure no ACC team
gets poached [including Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina, who the B1G had
been vetting]. So, no, Va. Tech will not be headed South. The only realistic
schools for the SEC now are Missouri, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Oklahoma
will bring a lot of luggage with them in Oklahoma St. and the Sooners aren't
really all that hot on linking up their academic institution with those in the
SEC anyway. West Virginia has no where near the household TV sets as Mizzou.Conclusion: The SEC's top target is most likely Missouri.And I think the Tigers should go if asked. Sure beats being a Texas toady.Go Tigers!
I do not expect Missouri to leave the Big 12. We now have 9 members counting
Missouri, 4 in the North Division and 5 in the South Division. It is my
understanding that BYU has been invited to join the Big 12 and would be assigned
to the North Division. This Okla. State fan would be thrilled to see this. I
hope to see two more added but not anymore from Texas. I would suggest San Diego
State to the South and perhaps Boise State to the North. I'd like that.
Missouri knows they'll have to pony up big-time to leave the Big12. While
they'll make noise about leaving, they are just posturing to get a bigger share
of the pie previously consumed by UT and OU. The SEC doesn't want them--there is
a reason the ACC took 2 schools out of the Big East, because they know Va Tech
is in the SEC's sights.It'll settle down in a week or so, then
they'll have to decide if they want yet another diva (BYU) and/or take the
red-headed stepchild (TCU). Chances are they just ignore those two and raid the
current Big East: Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati.
SEC members earn $20 million/team now, and will have renegotiation power for
more upon adding their 14th member. ESPN had already stated the Big XII's TV
contract is set. In that sense, they won't make any more money by adding North
Texas and Sam Houston State than if they added Notre Dame and Arkansas. The Big XII's TV contract is currently a 10-yr deal worth $1.1 billion.
This breaks out to a pro-rated annual of $110 million. Texas and Oklahoma
feathered a pretty nice nest for themselves at $20 million/team. That leaves
$70 million for the other 8 teams to divide amongst themselves...or $8.75
million ea.$8.75 million < $20+ millionEdge: SEC.Assuming Texas and Oklahoma grant equal sharing, each team will make $11
million.$11 million < $20 million. That's a little
bit better, but...Edge: SEC.And again, that $11 million
is for a 10-team league. Not a 12-team one.Seems to me that if
Neinas is "confident" Mizzou will remain, what he's REALLY saying is,
he's "confident" the SEC doesn't want the Tigers.The SEC
will make the final determination of the stability of the Big XII.
"Deep Throat" whoever that is, just announced on Twitter that BYU
just received an ivitation to the Big 12. Anyone else hear anything or is this
just another ongoing rumor????
I agree that if the Big East and Big 12 merge BYU will not be there but, neither
will Texas or Oklahoma.I also agree that Louisville and West
Virginia are in the conversation but, have yet to hear DeLoss Dodds or President
Boren refer to either as a "high priority target", unlike BYU (please
see the Austin American Statesman).
This could have major implications on whether or not BYU is invited.
My guess is that if the BIG 12 achieves some semblance of stability they will
effectively merge with the BIG East.
Moderate's post is exactly the reason the league will expand back to ten and
more than likely twelve. Stability cannot be achieved when the league is one
member departing away from a complete collapse. OU and OK St. want twelve for
this reason.That being said, the Missouri talk is all noise out of
Columbia, MO. They have been publicly rebuffed by the Big 10 and the SEC. The
only landing place they have outside of the Big 12 is CUSA.
Never ending. As soon as the Mizzou SEC rumor is resolved, then it will be OK
State leaving. When that is resolved, it will be KU/KSU headed to the Big East.
On and on, until Iowa State threatens to leave, then all will have a big laugh
and be a happy Big 12 again.
Read the articl carefully. Nienas said that there is no unanimity as to how
many teams to add, or whetheer to add any at all. Also, he said the schools in
the Big 12 saying they didn't want to add additional achools from Texas, has
changed. Probably not much chance BYU will be added - maybe no one will be
Nothing is certain until Missouri and the rest of the Big 12 bind their
television right to the Big 12 for the next 6 years. That will also be the
clincher for BYU accepting an invitation to join the Big 12.