Looming NBA disaster

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  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Sept. 28, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Thanks to DSB for the helpful clarifications. I hope the rest of what I posted is more accurate. You don't have to like anything about the NBA, and nothing compels anyone to follow it, but the "grouchy old guy" response to everything connected to the League gets REAL tiresome.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    To Mark B - I think you're a little harsh on Rifleman. In this case, since the work stoppage occurred with the expiration of the negotiated union contract, both sides are impeding the other's ability to make money by not giving in to the demands put before them.

    Since the stoppage was triggered by the expiration of the contract, it technically falls to the owners to facilitate the legal operation of their businesses. So, technically it is certainly a lockout until the legality is rectified that allows them to operate according to the law. If they hire non-union players and try to make a season, then it's clearly a lockout in the very spirit of the word as well.

    However, the players and union are rejecting the demands of the owners, and either cannot legally play, or will not play without another negotiated union contract. In that respect it's quite similar to a strike because they hold some very skilled and valuable cards that will cost the owners dearly if they don't capitulate on some demands.

    Anyway, calling it a strike may be technically incorrect, but it's certainly not the inaccurate representation you seem to imply.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Sept. 27, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Whenever DN puts the letters "NBA" into a story title you can depend as surely as the sun rising on postings that go: "I hate the NBA and all it stands for. I vowed to quit watching when the Celtics signed Bill Russell, and haven't turned on my Crosley TV set to see a game since, let alone actually attended a game, Even so, I am posting this to declare how much I don't care, and hope we can all NOT care together. Doggone young tall people got no RESPECT these days." BTW, would someone point out to Rifleman the difference between a "strike" and a "lockout"? It will help his credibility when he posts tomorrow.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 26, 2011 7:10 p.m.

    There's no disaster here .... especially in Salt Lake City where spectators put more effort into getting to the game than the play put into playing the game. Let the players strike until they get hungry enough to come back.

  • Jim987 West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 26, 2011 6:23 p.m.

    Getting rid of pro basketball, unfortunately, won't solve the World's hunger problems. The economy in Utah can be stimulated with a good basketball season. There are going to be more families in Utah that go to bed hungry because it's hard to find jobs. The Utah Jazz creates a lot of jobs for Utahns. Not to mention players spend a lot of money here in Utah.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 6:01 p.m.

    Seriously? The world economy is on the edge of disaster. As many as two billion of us are malnourished. Basketball? It's inconsequential, at best. Players should have to get off season jobs to support their basketball habit.

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    This has been coming for years... everyone with half a brain could see it. There is plenty of greed blame to go around. The owners allowed the escalation of salaries trying to buy themselves a championship. Other teams felt compelled to follow along. And the players? Well, the players took what what given them and now they all have a grossly distorted view of their actual market value. Even mediocre players get paid like superstars now days. As a huge basketball fan, I hope the NBA cancels their season this year. I'd love to see the grossly bloated NBA ballon deflate and come back down to earth. Salaries need to drop, ticket prices need to drop - otherwise, this league is in long-term trouble. Mark my words.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Derek Fisher? Not sure why this guy is the Players representative.
    In NFL lockout Brady, Brees, Manning, etc were player reps and things got done. Why is a guy who barely has talent to be in the league the head of negotiating? I know some of the NBA superstars lack education, but there are players better than fisher with a whole lot more intelligence.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:10 p.m.

    Save your money and your time. I hope the NBA goes away for good. Instead of watching someone else have fun maybe everyone can go out and get some exercise of their own.

    We have other things to have community pride about instead of the Jazz or some small group of individuals. We can represent ourselves.

    Utah is the Place!!!

  • md Cache, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    A Sports Illustrated article recently stated that, despite an average salary of 5.85 million dollars per year, 60% of these athletes will be broke within 5 years of retirement. Sad. They should have themselves and their children set forever. Instead, they flounder.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    After the Jazz made it clear they were backing Deron Williams and NOT Jerry Sloan I now could care less about the Jazz and even less about the NBA.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    The NBA is in decline, but the owners don't seem to know it. If the lockout continues it will be bad for the NBA and bad for the Jazz. The Jazz misses the marketing skills of Larry Miller. I predict a continued lockout will see the selling of the Jazz elsewhere (where maybe their name will match their community). I don't want to see them go, but I'm not sure it would be much of a loss for me as a fan (but it would be a big hit for the vendors and restaurants).

  • desert dweller SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    @Rand you got that right I couldn't care less no basketball ? yippie !

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 9:07 a.m.


  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Sept. 26, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Oh dear. In a world where Somali children starve to death and whole nations are in the grip of terror and ignorance and poverty and disease, it's so discouraging to think our poor NBA players are suffering, too. Quelle tragedie!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    It always sickened me as a teacher to see people like Karl Malone brag that, "I don't have to pay no taxes. None at all. Just gotta have a good accountant."

    That from a guy who was paid more to play one basketball game that I earned in a full year.

    Get rid of the NBA. I for one wouldn't miss it a bit.

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 5:53 a.m.

    I can live without it, but can the players who make gazillions?

    Sept. 26, 2011 5:49 a.m.

    Millionaire athletes bickering with millionaire franchise owners over how to divvy up the largesse. Oh, to have their problems! Why should any of us back in the real world care about this?