Is expansion in the Pac-12's future? Not for now

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  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 11:59 p.m.

    The PAC 12 needs to settle for a few years so the true programs can again rise to the top, some schools can get past penalties and sanctions for committing NCAA violations, and the true bottom-feeders appear. And yes, in a 12-team league, there will be bottom feeders. (Possibly two of them have campuses at high altitudes, not close to sea level.)

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    I would like to see a break down of the financials that were eluded to as "money being left on the table". As I look at the PAC 12 I can see both AZ schools not wanting to play in a division with the Tx, Ok, Co, and Utah schools and missing the CA schools voting against their entry, and likewise for Co. and Utah. The kicker comes when Cal and Stanford are against it for academics and USC, Oregon, and UCLA for revenue sharing. (ie. the LHN) By my count six to nine potential votes against this expansion. If this was the feeling, then no need to take a vote at all. Hence the PAC 12 statement.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    Glad to see the Pac-12 stand at 12. I think superconferences are the dream of the media, and not the way that conferences really want to go. Still, very odd that the SEC formalized accepting Texas A&M. Maybe they are ready to cut loose Vanderbilt...

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 25, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    This is why if the Big XII wants to remain a BCS conference, it'd better expand to at least 12 immediately (not in 3-5 years), and maybe even 14, or it'll again be a target of the Pac-12 when 16-team superconferences occur.

    If the Big XII were to stablize, and the Big East become defunct, 16-team superconferences might not happen; instead, 14-team superconferences could. Which would allow all current BCS schools to retain their standing, while promoting a few deserving mid-majors. (It'd take 70 teams to do five 14-team conferences, and there are currently 67-68 BCS teams.)

    The Utes better enjoy playing the coastal teams before any superconference stuff happens.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 25, 2011 9:20 p.m.

    President Ray said, "The Pac-12 essentially had three criteria when it considered expansion: All schools would have to remain on equal footing, it would have to make financial sense, and it could not diminish the conference's academic brand."

    I am so proud that the University of Utah was held to these standards, passed the test, and is now a member of the PAC-12!

    Go Utes. This Saturday - we're serving dog.