BYU, Utah Utes football: Utes pull off shocking 54-10 rout

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  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    I'm an Alabama Fan living in Utah. I graduated from Utah but when I was there, football was a joke (early 80's). I'm more of a BYU Hater than a Utah Fan and very proud to admit that. I've not been to a Utah game in years and will sometimes watch on TV. If BYU is playing on TV and I'm not doing anything...I will watch and root very hard against them. I've found nothing about the BYU Football program that interests me and the fans drive me crazy. The typical person that is a fan knows very little about football and especially about college football history.

    I'm a big fan of the BCS as this eliminated the possibility of 1984 ever happening again. I laugh now each time I hear a Utah fan talk about how hard their schedule will now be with no weeks off. People around here, especially BYU fans never got that or believed a person that felt BYU, Utah, or Boise State could never make it through an SEC schedule with less than 4 losses. They do not have the talent and mainly the depth. College football in Utah is 2nd Class at best

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 22, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    HS Sport Dude
    So are you a Utah fan or a Tide fan? And why the comparison between the Bama and BYU record? And how did BYUs National Championship get into this discussion? Lets stay on track. What I said was we hear little about Alabama out here in the number two TV market. We hear more about BYU and I am sure all sports have something to do with it. The discussion has nothing to do with Alabama of the 60s and 70s. The sports world and landscape has changed since then. By the way, I am a USC Trojan fan first and I loved the Utah game!

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2011 11:48 a.m.

    And lets not even talk about how succesfull Ty Detmer was as a Pro.

    Watch the Tide's Heisman and see how they are suppose to be as a pro.

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    Come on SoCalsurfer....Alabama lays claim to 13 National Championships. The NCAA also credits them with NC's in year 45, 62, 66, 67, and 77 that Alabama does not count toward the 13. So the number is 18 NC's.

    BYU has 1 and that one is very debatable. BYU did not beat a single top 20 team that year (that's all they had then). They only beat 4 teams with a winning record. Of the teams they played, only 3 of them went to a bowl game and the record for the bowls was 1-2. This included the Michigan team that finished the season 6-6 and 4th place in the Big Ten. BYU scrambled to beat a very injured Michigan team by 7 points that also lost to Ohio State by 15 points, Iowa by 26 points, Michigan State by 12 points, Purdue by 2 points, and Washington by 9 points.

    The built in LDS Fan Base rallied and sent thousands of letters to AP and UPI voters and shamed them into a bogus NC vote.

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 22, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    So HS Sport Dude,
    I live in our nations number two television market. I follow all sports very closely because sports happens to be my career. We see a ton of BYU exposure out here in this market. Thankfully a lot more exposure since BYU jettisoned the Mountain. What we see or hear nothing about in socal is Alabama. We heard of a Coach named Bear Bryant and maybe that Heisman running back a couple of years ago, but that is about it. So I think your view from Alabama of BYU is actually what you wish it was. Read todays Desnews article on school fan base, an article that this comment thread may have actually generated. I disagree with the stats in the article, I think BYU has far more fans, but I think the stats on Utah are correct. I have to laugh when some Utah fans write in like that loss Saturday will crumble BYU's firm foundation. I guess its ok for all of us to dream.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Sept. 21, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    @FC: an 8-4, 9-3 Arkansas or South Carolina will consistently be better than a 10-2, 11-1 BYU. Arkansas ended up with a 4-3 record against teams ranked in the final top 25 last year, that is right, they played a third of the final top 25. BYU has never played a schedule remotely as difficult as this. LSU, Alabama, and Florida are usually a notch above theses two teams. The 2008 Sugar Bowl was considered a stunning win for Utah. When BYU played against Alabama (and lost) in the late 1990s, Alabama was at a program low point.

    SEC football at the top half of the conference is a completely different quality of play that BYU has ever experienced. The football is just better down there and it is not just for 1 or 2 games, but at least 5 to 7 truly high quality opponents. I love SEC football and there is not nor has there been any point in time where BYU truly compared.

    Go ahead and admit it's true, you will like it!

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    F. Child

    Ive already statedI am not a Utah Fan. I love real football played in the SEC and Alabama is my team. BYU's record against the SEC is 2 wins 4 losses. Not good. The two wins are against Mississippi State and Ole Miss. Typical bottom feeders.

    Two things really matter in terms of National Attention. #1 Where you end up. #2 How many weeks in the top 25.

    So....BYU from 2003 to 2010 (8 years) best season ending ranking (AP) has been #12. Not so impressive. But that Utah Team has been in the top 5 two times during the same period and beat my beloved Tide. (smashed them)

    For # of Weeks in the Top 25 from 2003 to 2010 there are a total of 132 weeks. BYU has been ranked 33 of them or 25%.

    2003 0 of 16 weeks
    2004 0 of 16 weeks
    2005 0 of 16 weeks
    2006 6 of 16 weeks
    2007 4 of 16 weeks
    2008 16 of 16 weeks Utah finished #2 and had a more legit argument to a NC than BYU ever had.
    2009 7 of 16 weeks
    2019 0 of 16 weeks


  • Foolish Child Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 5:36 p.m.

    A question for HS Sport Dude:

    The ESPN deal is based on TV sets, and there are millions of Latter-Day Saints in all 50 states. No matter where BYU goes, there are fans. When BYU games are on TV, fans watch. I don't think anyone cares what religion the fans are if they are filling stadium seats and watching games on TV.

    Why is it a problem for you if BYU fans are mostly LDS? There likely are more BYU fans than fans of most other colleges around the country outside of the big teams with national followings that you listed.

    Anyway, ESPN feels there are enough BYU fans to justify giving BYU a contract as an independent for eight years, no matter what religion their fans are. I guess that's all that matters.

    But just out of curiosity, who is it that is telling LDS fans that they have to cheer for "God's University" as you termed it, and what is your issue with BYU fans being mostly LDS?

  • Foolish Child Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 5:28 p.m.

    HS Sport Dude:

    "That has changed now as BYU has not really shown up in the top 25 much the last 5 years."

    BYU Final season ranks:
    2006: #20
    2007: #17
    2008: #16
    2009: #14
    2010: NR

    I am not sure where you are getting your data, but your statement is completely erroneous. 4 of the past 5 seasons BYU has been ranked in the Top 25. Only last year was BYU unranked. BYU has reached as high as #8 in 2008, so the Cougars have even been a top 10 team within the past 3 years.

    For all who are using the game last week to "prove that Utah is a BCS caliber team and BYU clearly is unready to play at the BCS level" just remember that some time Utah will lose to BYU. By the same logic, can the reverse conclusion be made the Utah is not up to BCS-level and BYU is?

    I can already hear your excuses that Utah can have an off day, the refs made bad calls, Utah was not pumped up for a meaningless non-conference game, etc.

    Remember not to make too broad of conclusions from just one game.

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 3:01 p.m.

    SoCalsurfer.....Like I stated....I traveled the entire Southeast and Northeast significantly during those years. BYU was not a national name at all. I heard many people talk about the real college football programs like Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Ohio State, Penn State, Texas, USC, Georgia....the list goes on. Being from Utah and most people I did business knowing that, the discussion of college football and who the heck I could cheer for from Utah came up many times. Again....people that heard about BYU only remembered a few QB's that came from there. The only folks I ever talked to in the 90's and early 00's that really knew about BYU were LDS people and most of them knew very little about the fooball team other than they were suppose to cheer for "God's University".

    You would have though that finding a non-LDS fan would have been more possible in those years as BYU was kinda competitive. That has changed now as BYU has not really shown up in the top 25 much the last 5 years.

    I'm quite positive that any National Following for BYU is 98% LDS and 2% other or worse.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 12:38 p.m.


    So now you're blaming Utah for the worse ratings for the Utah/BYU game?

    It's not Utah's fault they kicked the living snot out of your pathetic Cougars, causing BYU members, I mean fans, to turn off their TV sets.

    Oh wait, actually it was Utah's fault.

    And if your contention is that Texas has more fans than Utah, thus a higher rating for that game, I think you finally said something that makes sense.

    As I've said since the summer, all BYU fans have to talk about is their Exposure.

    Because when they talk about what's actually happening on the football field, they have to deal with getting EXPOSED by Utah, 54-10, in the house Lavell built.


  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 9:41 a.m.


    You said:

    Chow and Whigingham are both BYU throwbacks. It's won't be long before Utah gets their butts kicked all over the PAC 12. Money does not win football games, teams do. The fun is just beginning.

    Any team who can't win and win big with 7 turnovers on their side should be embarrassed. All Utah did tonight was not embarrass themselves. Oh, by the way Utes the REAL score of the USC game was 23 - 14 (in case you did not hear).

    I could score three times myself in this game. Utah earned points = 21.
    The speed of the Pac 12 will eat Utah up.

    Dude are you serious? You sound like a 3 year old throwing a fit for not getting a piece of candy.

    Utah did what it was suppose to do against a sub-par opponent. Grow up and realize the world does not revolve around the Utah Valley "Bubble".

    Go Utes!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 9:24 a.m.

    I have a confession to make. As a proud BYU fan, season ticket holder, alumnus, and "blue blood", I was feeling a bit too proud. So I read the famous talk on Pride by President Benson (1989), and I prayed for increased humility.

    This game was the answer to my misguided prayer.

    I apologize to the rest of Cougar Nation that you had to suffer for me to learn my lesson.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Sept. 21, 2011 12:30 a.m.


    i agree about the tv deal not being just a spur the moment thing. in fact, i think it's smart business on espn's side and both sides get what they want out of the deal. if you look at byu's schedule, they're put in good time slots to get ratings and exposure, much like boise state was last year. i'm not saying they can't consistently get those ratings either i'm just trying to defend notion that people didn't tune in because byu was playing utah. i don't know exactly how the ratings system works, but u/y, on espn 2, was up against ou/fsu (abc) and miami/ohio state (espn). besides, the game was over midway through the 3rd quarter anyway

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 20, 2011 11:01 p.m.

    Hey HS Sport Dude,
    I can sympathize with a 1990s view from Alabama, espcially during the wac and mwc years. Do any other schools but Auburn and the Tide get any media coverage within Alabama? An ESPN deal gives a free and independent BYU the step up that a wac and mwc could never offer. A very smart win win. My view of BYU has always been from out of state and there is a blue tide rising.

    Hey Butters,
    yes, hard to do battle with a Florida State vs Oklahoma game. But half of that game rating should have been achieved. The Nielsen results say a ton about actual team followings.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Sept. 20, 2011 9:17 p.m.

    hey socalsurfer,

    i'll give you the higher ratings for the ole miss and texas games, but don't say the lower rating was strictly because of utah like they were some huge drop off no one was interested in. everyone else in the country was watching florida state vs oklahoma. that game received a 3.0 rating.

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 20, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    Hi SoCalsurfer....I have to disagree with you on the National Following. I lived in Alabama from 1990 to 2006 and other than the local ward members, could not find a person that knew much about BYU. Only a few would remember some of the QB's that came during the 80's (Young, Jimmy Mac) but would also say something about "What Conference do they play in"....isn't that the weird Mormon School. In fact in my 16 years of living in the South and doing a lot of travel, I never came across a BYU fan or person that had an interest in BYU that was not a member.

    Never fear Utah.....folks in the south new less about the Utes. That changed quite a bit in 2004 and 2008.

    BYU does not have a National Following other than its members and there is no "storied" history. I bet you could not find 5 people in an Alabmam Walmart that would believe you when you said they won the 1984 NC. And honestly....they only played 3 teams that had a winning record...two teams that went to a teams that finished near the top 20. Keep Dreaming

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 20, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Here are some bonafide facts, without the valley-view:
    Nelsen ratings for BYU-Ole Miss: 1.5 espn, for BYU-Texas, 1.6 espn2, for Utah-BYU, 0.6 espn2. In looking at BYU's first two games I can guarantee BYU was not the reason for a full Nielsen point loss in the Utah Game. One point equals about 1,200,000 us households.

    BYU enjoys a national following, including members and and millions of fans. Utah doesnt bring that volume with them. And ESPN has looked at BYU Sports for three decades. It was not a flavor of the month deal!

  • BSU BRONCO!! Rigby, ID
    Sept. 20, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    BYU fans now you know how Ute fans feel when they play BSU! To be completley out coached and out classed in every aspect of the game. And wasnt there a lot of Cougar fans talking smack about how much better Heaps was going to be then Kellen Moore coming out of the same state? Hows that looking now?

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Sept. 20, 2011 12:48 p.m.


    You're right.

    2005 Fiesta Bowl

    2009 Sugar Bowl

    Utah was in the right place, at the right time. The BCS.

    Unlike BYU, who were sitting at home wearing their "Quest For Perfection" shirts watching Utah dismantle Alabama.

  • SpanishImmersed Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 20, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    SolCalsurfer is right, Utah was in the right place at the right time when the PAC took their grab at the Big 12 last year, and only got CU.

    Now the entire landscape is imploding, and it may appear that Utah will be the only pre-2010 non-AQ to make it into the new super-conferences structure.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Sept. 20, 2011 8:49 a.m.


    Some facts:

    ESPN signed a deal with BYU because outside of the weekly WAC Friday night game, and one single Pac-12 football game a week on Saturday night, they are completely shutout of big time football on the West coast. And with ESPN darling Boise now on the MTN, take what you can get if you're ESPN.

    And if you believe that a guy as intelligent as Larry Scott would add Utah and Colorado to simply throw them a bone, with no benefit to the conference, you must also believe that Santa Claus just may leave you a new "Quest to Not Let Utah Destroy Us Again" t-shirt under the tree this year.

    Like I said, BYU has many members all over the country. Who will turn a BYU game on, have no clue what's happening, pay no attention to the game, and will either ignore the result if it's bad, or will celebrate if it's positive.

    Members, not fans.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 11:32 p.m.


    It's all good. I too would like to hear what he has to say. I'd personally like him to come out and congratulate the Ute team. I thing the coaching staff and team put on a great show. I think Duckhunter has it in him.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    Veritas Aequitas.

    Take a break. Just taking a few friendly jabs as Duckhunter often does with me. I do not expect him to respond. I am sure his spin would be much the same as other BYU fans that the cougs gave the game away but they still have superior athletes, the best recruits, the best facilities that money can buy and a huge national fan base. The funny thing is only BYU fans believe that spin because Chip Brown's sources are telling him that Texas does not want to rebuild the Big 12 with the likes of teams like BYU. But anyway, Veritas, thanks for manning up regarding your outlook of the game.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Sept. 19, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    Headline-Shocking rout? Whats that talk? The "wonderful ones" quite frankly are not that good and everyone for a couple of years have been beating Heaps drum, now they will probaly want to fire Mendenhall or replace Heaps with Nelson I suppose. Oh well this whole fantasy dreaming thing just goes with the territory! Your independents fans, whats a loss or two or three, or four or five and so on? The toilet "Bowl" will call.

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 19, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    Hey williary, I expected the skewed responses from local ute fans. Traveling once in awhile can help one make an accurate judgement. And, the Utes do just fine in drawing fans from those LDS meeting houses as well. Where do most Ute fans and contributors actually come from?

    BYU draws fans on the road. Far more than Utah. ESPN studied this out for years. So ESPN inked the broadcast deal with BYU because of a strong national following and fan base. It was a good business decision, finalized not because of emotion and gut feel, but because of real numbers, numbers Utah just does not have. One very weird rivalry game isnt enough to shake the foundation of a win win television deal.

    Finally, in my opinion Utah and Colorado needed the Pac12 more than the Pac10 needed Utah and Colorado. It was a very very fortunate window of opportunity for both schools

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    Carnak | 4:37 p.m. Sept. 19, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Dutchman | 4:27 p.m. Sept. 19, 2011
    Murray, UT

    He won't answer. He and Where's Stockton have taken a vow of silence.


    You would think that maybe Utah fans have had enough of Duckhunter?

    Yet they beg him to post.

    What do you expect the guy to say?

    He's been blown out of the water.

    I say let sleeping dogs lie.

    I'm sure that There will be a Utah game that motivates the guy to post.

    Personally, I would like to hear his input, but I'm not so desperate for his response that I go back a post previous posts.

    If you feel the need, I believe that he posted after last years Vegas Bowl beatdown that the Utes took against a WAC team.


    I have no problems with the comments from either BYU or Utah coaches or players. They are the ones who strapped on the pads.

    Keep it classy Utes.

    Dutchman, you have showed class in many previous posts. You are better than this.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Dutchman | 4:27 p.m. Sept. 19, 2011
    Murray, UT

    He won't answer. He and Where's Stockton have taken a vow of silence.



  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    The Best of Duckhunter Vol. 2

    May 16th, "There are at least 5 games on BYU's schedule this year that I am looking forward to more than the utah game. BYU plays utah every year so it is simply same old same old and not really exciting. Also I think utah will be extremely mediocre this year and not really much of a game to watch."

    May 16th, "BYU does not need to play utah to keep getting their recruits, those guys will come anyway. I wouldn't mind ending this charity game to utah."

    May 25, "No one outside of the trailer parks of west valley city has an affinity for the university of utah until they actually go there. No one dreams of playing for them while growing up, no one gives them even half a thought until they are recruited to go there."

    Duckhunter, I guess those kids from the trailer parks play some pretty good football don't you think? LOL

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 2:48 p.m.

    "A loss like this, especially when we knew the game could be so much different, you walk away from this game just shaking your head just because of the fact that we gave (Utah) the game." - Jake Heaps

    You would think a 44 point shellacking would be enough to humble a BYU player into maybe giving a little credit to the other team for beating them.

    Guess not.

    Sept. 19, 2011 2:23 p.m.


    Yeah, your whole "national following" just followed (nationally on ESPN) the biggest BYU beatdown in the Bronco era. Its okay though, because like the 90% of BYU nation that resides in Utah, those outside of the state probably stopped following midway through the third quarter.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:47 p.m.


    "BYU has a national following. Something Utah will never have. And this strong national following spans ALL sports. But of course ya probably have to live outside of that valley to understand and comprehend this fact."

    You need to step outside of your local LDS wardhouse once in a while.

    Because outside of LDS wardhouses around the nation, BYU has ZERO national following.

    They have members, not fans.

  • afro14 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    @ MILMMT

    Regardless of all of your arguments, Utah still won. And even if Utah only scored their so called "earned" points, they still win 21-10. In Provo, against a team that is supposedly more talented and has a brighter future. Your excuses for the loss make me, and everyone else, laugh. Do yourself a favor and accept the fact that BYU got outplayed on saturday night.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    @ yankees27 & Dutchman
    For Daisy I'm saving his best for when he happens to show up.. He'll probably change his name but we know him as the one that can't spell check.
    11 Yards total rushing yardage Duck !
    That JC little transplant?
    174 Yards --9th in the nation for Rb's as of today.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    @ yankees27 & Dutchman
    For Daisy I'm saving his best for when he happens to show up.. He'll probably change his name but we know him as the one that can't spell check.
    11 Yards total rushing yardage Duck !
    That JC little transplant?
    174 Yards --9th in the nation for Rb's as of today.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    I am officially out of the denial stage of mourning concerning this game. I don't know what the other stages are so I will just skip to the acceptance stage by accepting that byu may as well have been replaced by a high school team in the 2nd half and got the trash beat out of them by the Utes, who continued to play like a good College football team. Here's to the Utes making it to the Pac-12 Championship game. After that game... I seriously hope you deserve it.

  • SoCalChris Riverside, CA
    Sept. 19, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    Mike Leach!

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    @ SoCalsurfer | 11:58 a.m. Sept. 19, 2011

    Yada Yada Yada


  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    @ Dutchman | 11:08 a.m. Sept. 19, 2011
    Murray, UT

    Please for all of our sakes, don't ask the Duckhunter to explain his silly comments and prior posts.

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 19, 2011 11:58 a.m.

    ESPN looked closely at the past three decades of overall success when they decided on the BYU broadcast deal. Plus, the TV sports world and landscape has changed and opened up. ESPN doesnt care about one game. And really, much of this game had some amazing hits, some real excitement and solid drama to it. Much of the game made for good television.

    BYU has a national following. Something Utah will never have. And this strong national following spans ALL sports. But of course ya probably have to live outside of that valley to understand and comprehend this fact. It's a tide that could not and cannot be stopped. One really weird game cannot unravel everything.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    The Best of Duckhunter Vol. 1:

    May 16th, "Oh there will always be players like Jake Murphy that couldn't cut it at BYU and will wind up at utah."

    May 25th, "But any ute fan pretending that the rb position is not a big concern this year is delusional. I guaranty whittingham and chow are concerned about it. The backfield consists of a jc transfer (LOL), a freshman, and a rugby player, none of which has ever had a single D1 carry. All of this with a mediocre qb who just had surgery and won't even practice until fall camp...."

    Final score, Utah 54 BYU 10. LOL Duckhunter, please tell us what happened.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    At least Bronco Looked better in a polo shirt.

    Congrats Utes. You guys played awesome.

  • Aggielove Junction city, Oregon
    Sept. 19, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    Call Andy Reid.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 19, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Trials make our faith grow stronger;
    Truth is nobler than a crown.
    We will brave the tempest longer
    Tho the world upon us frown.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Sept. 19, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    As Cougar fans have been touting since last Spring...


    Cougar fans favorite word since the Utah Pac-12 invite has been exposure. And they got exactly what they've been asking for:

    On Saturday, BYU was EXPOSED as a BCS-caliber wannabe.

    Take note recruits. As long as you're comfortable being second fiddle in your own state, and having your season relegated to nothing after week #2, BYU is the place for you.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Sept. 19, 2011 7:54 a.m.

    My favorite phrase is on my mind. "wait til next year".

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 19, 2011 7:07 a.m.

    The red flag is Bronco's constant reminders of how ---Byu football is different and serves other purposes---. Bronco, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT, we are aware that BYU is owned by the LDS Church, we know, we know. For you to repeat it as much as you do makes me think that it is being used as a built in excuse to accept losing when it happens.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2011 1:53 a.m.

    @The Hailstorm- Awesome! I'm not sure how you knew to save that post, but I wished I had some from the last week as well. I love how the Y fans were all laughing at some of our predictions, especially ChrisB's, but who's laughing now?

    Great win Utes!!!

    Y fans- saying that you just gave the game away and the U didn't do anything to deserve it, that's the reason most of us despise you guys, you aren't accountable for anything! Man up and admit you were beaten by a better, more prepared, better coached team with more heart last night!

    Sept. 18, 2011 11:48 p.m.

    Heaps will never be a high performing QB because his throwing motion is fundamentally flawed. Pay close attention to how the ball travels on throws between 10-30 yards. The nose is up, which causes the ball to sail, resulting in "over throws". He has been taught to finish his throws in the hallway resulting in leaving his hips open with no snap of the wrist. When under pressure, his mecanically flawed technique is painfully obvious. Its time to red-shirt this kid and fix his delivery if he's going to be the great hope Doman thinks he can be.

    As for Doman; I'm not dure the pie he has eaten over the last three games will humble his arrogance! Dang good college player, not too good of a coach (though Bronco thinks he's the best QB coach in the country). The best QB/OC coach in college football history was at LES on Saturday night, but he was wearing red!

    Lots of work boys!

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    On Bronco's coaching style that puts football 4th on the priority list. The only words Vince Lombardi is on record as having regretted he uttered "Winning is not the most important thing it is the only thing".

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:09 p.m.

    byronbca | 8:55 a.m. Sept. 18, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    I don't know which is more surprising, the final score or how quickly byu "fans" will turn on their team. byu got killed because they couldn't hold onto the ball, not because they were out coached. Utah's defense just overpowered byu's offense.

    I disagree

    Not holding the ball high-and-tight or with two hands inside the five? Coaching should've drilled that out of them.

    Not falling on a fumbled snap anywhere near the end zone? Ditto.

    Not falling on a muffed kick at the goal line with 11 players bearing down on you? Double Ditto.

    Not being in the booth? Coaching error.

    Taking too long in the huddle? Reflects coaching and pace of practice.

    I don't have a beef with the defense breaking down late. They've had their finger in the dike for 3 games. The gave out, they didn't give up.

    I have a beef with is preventable errors, and though the players, not the coaches, committed most of them, it is the HC's job to prepare them, not coast the last days of fall camp. Fans are tired of preseason rhetoric, post game excuses.

  • Kankles Miami, Florida
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:12 p.m.

    Nice game Cougs.

    Was that your JV team?

  • Blaine B PROVO, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:55 p.m.

    As a BYU fan the only two people I can feel happy for after last nights game is Norm Chow who wasn't treated fairly by BYU when he was forced to leave and Robert Anae who was made a scape goat after last season. BYU's offense has sure been great since Chow and Anae have left BYU. The Utes should treasure having Norm Chow and the University of Arizona are lucky to have Robert Anae.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:42 p.m.

    Tom in CA | 5:41 p.m. Sept. 18, 2011
    Vallejo, CA
    "A good team worth anything would have put up at least 70 on BYU as crappy as the Cougars played. Nice little win, utes."


    This from the guy who kept predicting a BYU blowout for months; how BYU was licking its chops, how Sept 17th couldn't come fast enough.

    Nice litte win. Ha. Whatever helps you sleep.

    Oh and here's some math:
    54 + 7 from the blown helmet-to-helmet call + untold 4th quater points the Utes could have scored had Whit not shown mercy (i.e. had the Utes not pulled their starters and run Robles up-the-middle in Cougar territory--akin to taking a knee, with plenty of time on clock) = >70.

    I hope duckhunter's reply is a rich as this one.

  • The Cucamongan Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    Is it too late for ESPN to cancel their million dollar agreement with BYU and get a refund? It appears that BYU is auditioning for entry into the Big Sky Conference. I am just grateful that I had the vision to cancel my season tickets earlier this year once the schedule was announced after being a loyal fan for 12 years.

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:41 p.m.

    Congrats Utes.

    Thats about it for me on that. Just for everyone elses information I would still rather get blown out by 50 than ever think of being a ute fan. As for all you BYU fans who want to cry and jump ship, good bye, who wants you anyways.

    Go Cougs its not the end of the world, fix it and lets get this thing rolling again.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    A couple of observations. One Heaps looks like he is terrified of getting heat and Bronco has no fire or passion on the sideline. He just sort of stares off into space it seems like.

    On the other hand Kyle yelled at his kicker when he missed the PA when it was 30 to 10. He looked right at him and said "What is wrong with you." I was dying of laughter. Kyle shows emotion and passion.

    Bronco needs to realize they are not playing to see who goes to heaven.

  • whatnext Clearfield, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:51 p.m.

    Hey Pack 12 proud,
    You are mistaken when you say, "Sports at byu is not missionary work", you are technically correct. However, BYU is an LDS school and that school is required to uphold all the standards the LDS church lives by. The mission of the LDS church is to bring people unto Christ. They do this by teaching the gospel, serving others and setting a good example just like the Savior would. There fore, when the BYU football team puts more importance on a fireside where the gospel is being taught or do not put the same importance in the result of a win compared to a lose but instead focuses on how they played the game, means they are trying to live by the standards that have been set forth by the church and the Savior. In other words, they are indeed performing missionary work.

  • AlotRed&aBitBlue Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    The game was pathetic, and I'm a Ute fan. But I expect a lot more from BYU. The one thing I find interesting is that the Cougar's hardest hitting and most punishing runner was moved to the defense, and other than kick returns he didn't even play until the game was a lost cause. Hey Mendenhall! Here me now and do as you are commanded. Put Mike Hague back on offense and build a running game, for crying out loud! Sadly, it will probably never happen. DiLuigi is a great runner, but he's not the whole answer. You also need a fast power runner, and that's Hague. He's a team player so he'll play where you tell him, but on this one you got it all wrong. You are wasting some great talent, and you have no running game. If that was Brandon's idea, then it was one of the first of his many mistakes. Brandon may be a great QB coach, but he's far from ready as the OC. Give Mike the ball! By the way, Nelson showed 10X the spirit and guts as Heaps, so maybe there's hope to come, but don't waste Hague.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    Oklahoma and Texas are in active negotiations with the Pac 12, Pitt and Syracuse are looking to move to the ACC. The Big East will become a basketball only conference, the Big 12 will die. The super conferences are coming and BYU is teetering on the edge of college irrelevance...more so.

    Maybe BYU should fold the football program and use the tithing money on other outreach that doesn't make my church look bad.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    Just one request to all fans from both schools.

    Can we just leave both the Y and U ties at home on Sundays from now on. Church is not the place for sports. Watercoolers and sports bars / restaurants are the perfect place to show your school pride. (That has been my opinion for may years).

    Once again, I am happy for my Utah fanbase friends. What a fun night to be had, and I wish you many more this season.

    BYU fanbase friends, remember that you have wonderful families, and this was just a game.

    Life goes on.

    I get tired of the pre-game smack, but Utes, your team earned the postgame smack this year. You won the scoreboard HUGE. Smack away. That was an awesome display by your team last night.

    Congrats to Coach Whittingham, his staff, and all the players for your efforts.

    Kyle is a classy guy, and this was a well deserved game.

    To the BYU staff and players, forget about this one and move onto the next one.

    Life is good.

    I have played and coached many sports for a long time. Nights like last night are special. Enjoy this one.

  • ed in atl Duluth, GA
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:21 p.m.

    Give Ziggy a chance to run the ball.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    @ daddman54 | 5:02 p.m. Sept. 18, 2011

    "Duckhunter is still MIA, perhaps even desperately trying to spin the game results into one of his famous trolls. Poor guy..... his team lost the game but more importantly he's also lost what little respect anybody had for him. Is anybody, including most Cougar fans, going to take him seriously the rest of the season?"

    No one has ever taken him seriously, so why should they begin now?

    How about all of his venom and hate toward Jake Murphy?

    Still crickets.


  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    truthsandwich | 3:42 p.m. Sept. 18, 2011

    Dead on, I could not agree more.


    I pesonally haven't posted yet, because last night was clearly Utah's second finest hour (The Bama Sugarbowl was), and one that the Utah fans deserved.

    With a housefull of Utah and BYU fans, I was very happy for my Utah brothers last night. As the BYU blue trickled out at the beginning of the fourth quarter, I hung with my Utah buddies, and enjoyed their elation.

    That is what sports are all about. Some nights things just go your way.

    Congrats to Utah, and all of their fans.

    Personally, I have not problem with any posts by either side on many of these articles.

    That is what fans do.

    Truthsandwich made an extremely classy post and one that all fans of both schools need to read and ponder.

    BYU's season is not over yet.

    No one needs to be fired. It's a loss for BYU, and it is one that both teams need to keep in perspective.

    Utah needs to keep their foot on the gas, and make the state proud.

    BYU needs to learn from what happened, and move on.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:48 p.m.

    @ DUCKHUNTER-- July 21st.
    " As far as the secondary's are concerned, well, let's just say I'm willing to wager BYU's will be superior to utah's this year. And those other supposed "talents gap(s)" you are refering to, well where are they? BYU's oline is unquestionably superior to utah's, not even close. BYU's wr's are superior, I can't even name any of utah's. BYU's rb's are superior. utah is trying to get by with a converted rugby player, a jc transfer and a freshman. BYU's LB corp is superior as well, there isn't a LB on utah's roster as good as BYU's top 6.

    I understand you are dleusional and a homer but there is no need to make a fool of yourself. LOL! "

    Duck that J.C. transfer just went off for nearly 180 yards and your highly taunted, " superior ", running backs burned the Utes for 11 for the entire game---that's 2.75 yards a quarter ! And how about that fellow you called a BYU reject--- Jake Murphy ? 3 plays--touchdown !
    Stay tuned Duck.. I have a lot of crow for you to eat before the Humble Pie portion of your schedule runs it's course.
    Scoreboard LOL !!!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    A good team worth anything would have put up at least 70 on BYU as crappy as the Cougars played. Nice little win, utes.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:24 p.m.

    To samyg and 1984 for life

    I have new respect for you. You talked the smack but were men enough to congratulate the Utes on the win.

    To Duckhunter, Riverton Cougar, Starfarer, Varitas......, etc

    Man up and admit you were wrong or stay of these boards.

    Go Utes!

  • daddman54 FARMINGTON, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    Sammyg manned up early on and posted his congratulatory comments, which I 'm sure were pretty tough as they would be for any Ute troll had it gone the other way.
    Duckhunter is still MIA, perhaps even desperately trying to spin the game results into one of his famous trolls. Poor guy..... his team lost the game but more importantly he's also lost what little respect anybody had for him. Is anybody, including most Cougar fans, going to take him seriously the rest of the season?

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 18, 2011 4:59 p.m.

    Not even going to read the comments because I am guessing some are pretty dumb.

    I just wanted to say Congrats to the Utes. I do not think BYU is that bad but last night they were. The Utes showed up and BYU did not. The better team won yesterday. Now to see if BYU can turn it around and the Utes can continue down their path. Best to both teams. Would like to see both do well from here on out.

    See you next year in SLC

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Sept. 18, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Yeah that ESPN deal is great! What a wonderful way to show everyone you belong on the big stage Cougars.
    If you are a real BYU fan, you will watch the thrashing replay on BYU TV!

  • jmort SLO, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 4:07 p.m.

    Let's face it, it was painfully obvious that the BYU players lack the physical conditioning to last a whole game. I don't beleive it was the Utes' 1st string offense that was running all over them at the end was it?

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 4:04 p.m.

    Back in the 1970s, at Rice Stadium, I recall a very frustrated Utah fan beating his head against a metal guard rail.
    After reading these posts, sounds like many BYU fans were in the same frame of mind while attending the game in Provo last night.
    Maybe Security doesn't tolerate that these days.

  • Ronald Uharriet SWun City, Ca.
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    Please Consider Bronco Mendenhall for the very next opening as a General Authority as soon as possible.

    We need a head coach that takes Football coaching as the most important thing he is hired to do.

    Seperation of Church and State.
    Seperation of Football coaching and Prosliting.

    We need a coach that puts the matter and coaching of his team #1.

    No more cute slogans. Its embarrasing.

    Why did we ever allow Utah to come onto our home field dressed top to bottom in their full red uniforms as though this was a home game for themselves instead of white tops as a visiting team. Who gave away that Psychological advantage to our #1 rival 40 miles up north. Dont ever do that again. Please!!!

    I cry for our Cougars that have the most talent they have ever had in history but we dont understand how to use it.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    I said this before: this is what you get when your coach says
    football isn't his priority.

    Cougar fans, you have the power to stop this madness. Boycott the remaining
    home games and watch Bronco get kicked to the curb like a 2 loss Nebraska coach.

  • UgottaloveMaxie SLC, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    unbelievable the comments some byu fans make about utah not winning, but byu losing that game. incredible. do you realize that the good teams force takeaways, put the ball in the endzone, have defenses that shut down running games to 11 yards?! haha. I feel sorry for the sensible fans who have to deal with the delusional fans who still think byu's a good team, and furthermore they blame the coaches...7 turnovers, really? ya, that's coaching...

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Dear BYU fans,

    After seeing so many of my Y-fan friends in deep depression today, and hearing so many people calling for jobs and jumping ship, I have to say the following in all sincerity:

    You guys really, REALLY need to stop expecting to go to a BCS bowl every single pre-season. It just isn't justified. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the football team themselves (or Bronco himself) having the highest of goals. But the team's goals and the fan's loudly advertised expectations should not be the same thing. We've actually been there. Twice. And we still do not expect it every single year. This is why we make it through blowouts like we suffered last season.

    Your ship is not sinking, one train wreck doesn't change the fact that BYU is still a great program. Just be more realistic on years you have teams that are unproven and over hyped. You'll be happier fans, and will seem less annoying and more credible in the eyes of other fan bases. Go luck with the remainder of your season.


    A Ute fan who enjoys the rivalry and wants to see BOTH programs get better.

  • 61Cougar Seattle, Wa
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    I don't know much about this "Band of Brothers" stuff, or any 'higher calling' as mentioned and lampooned in several posts here, but does anyone remember back when BYU's offense could score three touchdowns in a single quarter?

    Those were good times.

    This year's offense has taken three games to score three touchdowns. Something is clearly wrong, and right now, I'll point the finger at Doman. If he is really a smart and talented OC, it's time for him to get off the sideline and up in the press box where he can see the whole field to make adjustments. If Jake Heaps still needs his hand held on the sideline by Doman the QB coach, it's time to see what a different QB can do.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:18 p.m.


    Please don't disrespect the Utes by claiming this win is any less impressive because of BYU's poor play. Leading up to this season and even this game it BYU fans were all about national titles, Heaps for Heisman, and Doman for OC of the year. Now that has all come crashing down, but rather than admit the Utes are just simply better than you thought we were you'll throw your boys under the bus. Nice.

  • Mr. Schneebly Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    My family left the stadium early because BYU completely gave up. The majority of the Ute fans seated near me last night at LES were screaming profanities all game long and were just plain unpleasant to be around. Even the Utes band was in on the poor conduct, watching the BYU band and launching into song every time they started to play.

    Bad environment in the stadium, bad football game getting whipped by our rivals at home, especially bad effort by BYU on the field. Bad night to be on national TV showcasing our newly-independent brand.

    BYU needs to fix some things fast: Bench Heaps and give Lark a chance. Put Doman on a very short leash and hold him accountable for averaging one offensive touchdown per game. Fix the running game: 0.5 yards per carry is not going to win ANY games. Most of all, hold EVERYONE accountable for quitting before the third quarter was over. There is no excuse for giving up. Ever. I predict nothing will hurt BYU in the long run as much as being a team that doesn't have the will to finish games, even if we are losing.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:09 p.m.


    Didn't you learn from last year about the mistake of claiming your oponent didn't really win the game in spite of what the final score says? BYU was outplayed and to downplay that by claiming they gave the game to us is not being honest. The Utes played well. Many of the miscues by BYU were caused by the play of our team. So be big enough to give credit where it's due. Bronco seems to have learned that lesson.

  • TandJ LaVerkin, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Hey Cougar fans, I think I am hearing your old fight song from the 50's and 60's. You appear to know it well even now. "Wait Till Next Year." Or as Madden has furthered it to, "Wait for 2 or 3 years." We will probably be hearing this old true and blue fight song ad infinitum.

  • WeberCatBasketballFan Midway, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Benderman1: Please, get a grip on reality. Yes, if someone leads 13-7 late in a game and their defense is playing very well and they lay the ball down in the end zone and lose 14-13 you can claim they gave the game away. However, let's look at some stats from last night outside the turnovers... Utah 481 yards of offense, Utah 242 yards rushing, Utah 239 yards passing. Not to mention the Utah defense might have had just a little bit, perhaps just a little to do with forcing turnovers.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:55 p.m.


    I don't get how people can give the Utes credit? What exactly did they do to win the game?

    ----------- -----------

    You can't figure that out yourself?

    Well let met help...

    1) Utah's offense came alive against a so called good defense: 481 yards (over 200 rushing with over 7 yards per carry).

    2) BYU's rush game was crushed by the Ute defense. Total yards 11 with 22 carries which is 0.5 yards per carry. For comparisons against the mighty SEC defense BYU was 2.9 per carry, against the mighty Big 12 defense BYU was 1.9 per carry.

    3) Out coached, out hustled, and out played even with a injured QB.

  • CedarAg CEDAR CITY, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    That's too bad for BYU. They had that band of brothers thing going for them and i guess it was a band of mothers playing last night. Better luck when Utah State comes down.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:42 p.m.

    Benderman1 your above post is the prime example of much talked about Y fan delusion. You say Utah was not the better team. Um, BYU didn't even give Utah as good as game as Montana State. Utah is definitely the better team as your team cannot score nor hold on to the ball. Also, most BYU turnovers were Utah caused. That's what good teams do; force turnovers. Though that being said I realize you haven't seen a good team in Provo for awhile so I'll excuse your oversight.

  • TandJ LaVerkin, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    Hey Madden, you got it. The old BYU theme song. "Wait till next year" or at least as Madden says, wait two or three years. Yeah Madden, I think that you will be hearing that old refrain from Provo for several years. BYU fans learned it well in the past and it will probably be forthcoming for a long, long time. "Wait till next year."

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:33 p.m.


    Be careful about awarding BYU basketball a win over Utah this season. I'm not saying Utah will be a good hoops team, but your post looks eerily similar to about a million posts by BYU fans over the summer.... "Can't wait for Sept 17 to give the PAC12 patsy Utes a beat down"

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    Thank you Madden for being sensible. To the ex Cougar fans, fair-weather fairies, good riddance. We don't need no stinkin whiners. All the problems of this game are fixable and will be.

    Congratulations to Whittingham and his team. Congratulations to decent fans everywhere. The rest of you losers will always be such.

  • eljefeBYUfan Denver, CO
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:07 p.m.

    Congratulations Utes. THE far, far better team on the night.

    The most pathetic demonstration I've ever seen of BYU's football "skills!"

  • Golfhack20 West Jordan, Ut
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:04 p.m.

    I have heard a lot about how BYU is on TV and Utah should thank BYU for letting play on ESPN. I want to be the 1st Ute to say Thanks!!! I would also like to say Your Welcome! After last nights beat down I feel more AQ teams aren't afraid to play you any more and will be calling to ask for a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deal! I guess that will help with your schedule! Good luck!!!

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    Obviously the Utah Players and coaches have started going to church....Seriously it's one game one loss thats all.

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    Ex-Cougar from South Jordan is offically my hero. I could have not said any of that any better. Spot on.

    I'm not a huge Utah fan....more of an SEC and Alabama guy....but despise BYU.
    The "Higher Mission" bit and then fans that always thing they gave it away or the refs are a blame is the main reason. Not to metion a on paper National Championship where they only beat 4 team over 500, non of them finished anywhere near the top 20, and only 2 of them went to a Bowl Game (including the 6-5 Michigan team that finished 4th in the big ten).

    In the 50's, 60's, and early 70's BYU football had a "Higher Mission" and nobody outside of LDS people knew about BYU or that they even had a football team. They are headed that direction fast. You must win and beat good teams to be relevent.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    I am a huge BYU fan, but I can't hide the disappointment of what I have seen on the field this year and last...

    This Blowout is a direct reflection on some very poor coaching and the A D Administration...

    First, Doman should never have been promoted to a Divion I O C job so quickly (particularly for a program with as much expectation as there exists at BYU). He should have been a position coach for a couple more years and treated as an Assistant O C under a well Tenured Division I O C who's had success with the West Coast Offense.

    Second, Mendenhall needs to start acting a little more like a coach and a little less like a General Authority.

    Third, we need a new QB, one that is less cocky and more of a "show you" type of player rather than a "tell you" type.

    Lastly, we might need a New A D, one who is better connected with other schools in the NCAA, and one who is a better Strategist.IMHO most of Holmoes moves have been bad these past few years. We had no business going Independent and exposing America to this reality.

  • Benderman1 Layton, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:44 p.m.

    I don't get how people can give the Utes credit? What exactly did they do to win the game? It was much more about BYU giving them everything to them in a nicely wrapped present. How many fumbles did BYU give up on in the end-zone or within 5 yards of it? I seriously lost count. Give the Utes credit? It would be tough for even Kanab high school not to win that game in convincing fasion with all those gimmies. BYU completely took themselves out of the game. No, this game was not about Utah being a good team. It is much more about BYU being completely unprepared. Their football program is an emparasement now because they continue to insist on making football into a church thing. If you're going to have a football team, focus on football. Mendenhal is a cancer and I've said it from the beginning. My bishop would be a better coach than Bronco and Broncon would be a better church leader than my bishop! We need someone who will do their job and leave the church duties to church leaders!

  • Benderman1 Layton, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    "We were out-coached, out-played and out-executed from beginning to end." Ya, ya think? Maybe it's time to stop planning for all the pre-game firesides and spend your time preparing and coaching your team. That was rediculous. Utah was not the better team, BYU was simply not prepared and made too many unforced mistakes. Utah didn't force hardly any of them. BYU gave them to them and it took them out of their game for the entire second half. I'm a BYU fan that is starting to get a little tired of Bronco and full-time preachor/part-time football coach mentality. Memo to Mendenhal...leave the religious duties to church leaders and start focusing your time on coaching and preparing your team.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    As a Cougar fan, I was embarrassed last night. While the offense and special teams were useless, it really did look like the defense quit. BYU better right the ship or they won't make their bowl game.

    At least my church Ute buddies took it easy on us today...even they felt sympathy.

    But you know what - I think this BYU team will respond. The coaches and players want to win more than any of the whining fans on this board. This was one game, and it counted for one loss, whether by 44 points or 1. I wish our fans would show more class and support. Clearly this season is a disappointment no matter how they finish, and nobody will have the foolish optimism going into next year, but BYU is a good program and has recruited good players of late, and I think that 2-3 years from now, we'll be back to celebrating again.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    Notes: except for that TD drive, BYU's 300+ passing yards were not productive/effective. Utah D gave up the yards, but contained BYU from scoring.
    So I am not impressive of BYU passing game.
    BYU running game was non-existent.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    THe number one reason why BYU fans are the way they are. They think that BYU is a top 5 team every year they think they a Oklohoma or USC or even Alabama or Auburn. YOUR NOT! Lower your expectations like a lot! You guys are crazy to put or say some of the things you guys do because it always comes back to bite you.

  • truth_avenger Lehi, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    Two blowouts in one year! USU turned out to be much worse than they looked in routing BYU and Utah will wind up looking just as bad when they play their new conference. Robert Anae and Jaime Hill are both gone and the problems remain. Bench Heaps, give Nelson the ball and start looking for replacements for Bronco
    Novocaine Mendenhall and Brandon Inept Doman. Another wasted season and more wasted talent. They have money, facilities and players, what they don't have is coaches.

    Sept. 18, 2011 1:09 p.m.

    Well, well, well...

    BYU fans are singing a different song today, eh?

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    Mendenhall and Doman have been coaching the Y for the past 7 years, and they have brought some pride back into the program, and resurrected the program from the dead. However, after embarassing games like last night, where their team was outplayed and outcoached, the question does have to come up--do we let them go?

    Personally, I'd like to see Mendenhall stay--he's a class act. Even though this is Doman's first season as offensive coordinator, I think there must be questions about him. Bronco called him out once, already, this season, and this is how Doman and his offense responded. The Cougs offense did look great in the 2nd quarter, but they were subpar the other three quarters and 7 giveaways shows lack of preparation and intensity.

  • jmort SLO, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    BYU looked tired and out of shape in the 4th quarter. Maybe a lot of it was just superior physical conditioning (you know "paying the price" in the gym and in practices). I'd like to know if others have noticed this when the cougs play quick, physically fit teams.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    I am liking that the Utes and Cougs are no longer in the same conference and playing earlier in the season. It's the postgame, and we're talking about the game, not the hype around it.

  • Ex Cougar South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:49 p.m.

    Coach Mendenhall: Please stop the excuses and comparisons of the BYU boosters to Pharisees - Save it for Sunday School. I dare say that after your comments and the performance of BYU this week, donations to BYU football will probably drop like a stone; Well done coach. This is a tough business grow a backbone, stand up and take responsibility, or get out.

    Sept. 18, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    Jake Heaps should consider going on a mission after the season. It would help him mature mentally. He could use a redshirt year when he returns to get back into it and would probably be a much better quarterback his junior and senior year than he would be otherwise. Doman will also be more experienced then and should be a better offensive coordinator/coach.

    I was most shocked by BYU's lack of offensive fundamentals in the game. Any running back who takes a hand-off at the 3 yard line to power into the end zone should have two hands wrapped around the ball. Inexcusable. On any running play the ball should at least be tucked high and tight (BYU needs to watch film of Mark Ingram when he was at Alabama.) When a ball is fumbled on the ground (Heaps and Falslev) you immediately dive on it. You don't try to pick it up, run with it, throw it, etc. Poor, poor offensive fundamentals.

  • EagleFan Lake Forest, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    I am thinking the next t-shirt should say..."HUMILITY..Does a body good!!"

  • EagleFan Lake Forest, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    Congrats to the UTES....Awesome WIN. The WIN last night was unbelievably satisfying and the bonus is watching the "Y" fans destroy their own team in this blog!! Double pleasure...ha ha ha! Humility has a sour taste when it is force fed!!

    GO UTES!!

  • redandwhite Park City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    So BYU handed the game to Utah? I prefer to think Utah ripped it from them both physically and mentally. Man up Byu and move on but remember this day forever. Go UTES!

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    The DN Censors are alive and well today. BYU needs a head coach that wants to win football games, as "Pragmatic" correctly points out the focus is not on winning football games. The firesides are a good idea on the road, but not the night before a game. 'x' points out that he would like to see Bronco 'lose his temper', you can be sure during the halftime of the Texas game their coach let them know they needed to play better football. I'm would hope the players want to win and put in a lot of effort in that direction, but BYU needs a head coach with the same attitude. Instead he criticizes his supporters.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    Cool! I didn't know you could recommend your own post! I mean really, how cool is that? I just became a UTE and life is already getting better!!

  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    Ducky, Captain L, and the rest,

    I told you after the 2010 spring scrimmage Heaps was not the guy. Nice throwing mechanics and stats produced in a spring camp do not translate into game time ability. The fact that Heaps had a PR guy, that he was out of shape and avoided the weight room and that he was intensely disliked by a number of teammates spoke volumes about his readiness to lead a D1 school. He's selfish and he thinks he knows it all.

    But, BYU fans and coaches were blinded by the ranking and even after his mediocre performance last year, he was annointed the starter and there was no competition in 2011. Doman and Mendenhall weren't even decent enough to give Lark a release, when he realized there would be no real competition and asked for one.

    So the one guy with actual D1 ability rides the bench and BYU's chickens have come home to roost. Good luck guys. You got what you asked for.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    So much for the undefeated season I had said in the past. Booooh! But I have to hand it to the UTES! I was more impressed with them than embarrassed with the Cougars! I can now think of all the sarcastic and schadenfreudic T-shirt slogans based on the "Band of Brothers" thingy. Remember the "Quest for Perfection" campaign? Can we vote the coaches off? After all the fans have a lot more to do with the success of this football "thingy" at BYU! So what excuses are Doman and Mendenhall saying now?

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    As a long time CougarClub booster who has invested a lot of time, money, and devotion to my alma mater, I have these thoughts:

    This team lacks a winning attitude. Sure, they can talk a lot of hype, and positive mental attitude cliches (mingled with scripture), but they don't back it up with action. Attitude reflects leadership. This bad attitude is the fault of the coaching staff, and is the same bad attitude evident in Bronco's calling us (boosters) "Pharisees" for wanting some accountability. Bronco forgot (deliberately?) that this is a football team first and foremost, not a band of missionary brothers who just happen to play football. Like Collie, this team really does seem to believe the lie that success on the field comes from living "righteously" off the field, instead of from hard work, discipline, brilliant preparation, focused execution, and heart.

    some bright spots:

    To put up 343 passing yards against the Utes, with NO running game to keep defensive backs honest, is impressive. We moved the ball and moved the sticks almost as good as the U, and our 3rd down efficiency was better.

    I gave away season tickets. They want to give them back.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    I really don't think this outcome was all that shocking to be honest. Utah is well coached and BYU isn't. Kyle would never put up with 7 turn overs - never - but Bronco seems lost - much like Crowton - on how to fix this broken program. He fires assistants and rotates new ones in and things just get worse. I don't know if Doman is good or bad because the BYU O-line is SOOOO pathetic and the BYU running backs are third stringers on most teams at best. My gut feel is that Doman is actually REALLY good but the talent he has to work with is so awful and sub par. Heaps is a really good QB - you can tell with his arm strength and touch but I think he tries to do too much sometimes to compensate for the ZERO running game and when you become a one dimensional offense you are in BIG trouble. BYU has good receivers but again the lack of a running attack is killing them. Every time the Y does get a good running back he is kicked out of school (Unga). Well, this is going to be a long season for sure.

  • Ex Cougar South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    To Tom Holmoe: This is ultimately your responsibility. What have you done to BYU football? As an executive in private business, if I showed this kind of performance Id be on probation, or fired. I dont expect any team to win every game, but the performance against Utah was a joke. It showed a clear lack of focus, discipline and desire to win. Generating that in a team is the job of the head coach. Coach Mendenhall seems to think he is a mission president, not a football coach. Please bring him back to reality, or let him go. The BYU football program is clearly not ready to compete at the BCS level. Programs like Utah, Boise State, and TCU have left BYU behind. You obviously underestimated the programs maturity level. Now youve taken BYU independent, and the weakness of the football program will be visible every week on national television. Thanks a lot for the recognition. Maybe you should consider a career change also.
    And as for me, Im now a Utah fan. GO UTES !!

  • Ex Cougar South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    To Coach Mendenhall: After seeing the comments you made to the BYU boosters, and then watching the team dismantled by Utah, it seems that maybe you were preparing everyone for what was to come. Please, spare us your attempts to rationalize the situation. It is true that BYU football is unique because of the high standards required of the staff and players. However, to say that you and the team have a higher mission sounds like youre trying to justify mediocrity. Ive got news for you, there are already thousands of young men who spend each day of their lives bringing attention to the LDS church. They are called missionaries. Unlike you, they labor for free. If your mission is truly first and foremost to represent the LDS church, then please stop taking that huge salary from BYU and do it voluntarily like everyone else. Sanity check - you are being paid a huge salary to win football games using young men who adhere to the standards of the university, period.

  • Ex Cougar South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    To Brandon Doman: Ive been following BYU football for 20 years, and I dont think Ive ever seen an offense as pathetic as what youve delivered. Were not in fantasy land anymore Brandon. Your pre-season banter about how good the BYU offense would be this year was clearly delirium on your part. Obviously, you are way out of your league. With years of practice maybe you can be a good offensive coordinator, but not now. After the Texas game, the Texas defensive players noted how they learned where the throws would go by halftime, which allowed them to shut BYU down in the second half. With an offense as predictable as yours, you just as well give the opposing defense your playbook prior to game time. I beg you not to put BYU fans through the pain of watching your completely predictable, boring, lab experiment offense the rest of this season. Please do the honorable thing, admit youre in way over your head, take responsibility, and resign.

  • Y Alum South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    To the Utah fans: Congratulations on your win. There is no longer any doubt that the best football program in Utah is the Utes. The two teams are on different paths Utah getting stronger year by year, and BYU sinking into obscurity. Good luck the rest of this year and in the future as you compete for further BCS recognition. With Utah State also rising, it seems that BYU will take its place by the side of Weber State.

    To the BYU defense: I feel sorry for you. Having half a football team is no fun, Im sure. Considering that BYU has absolutely no offense, youve held up as best you can. Sorry, but it seems that youll probably be on the field for most of the remaining games this season.

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    to all you byu fans sayin the hit in the endzone on christopher shouldnt have been a penalty.. GET REAL. that was the worst no call in the world. he led with his helmet the whole way. get a clue byu fans

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    Cougar Fans,

    I know it hurts. I still FEEL Utah's loss in the NC to Kentucky, Utah's losses to ND and TCU last year. But you've got to be better, more loyal fans.

    Calling for Coach Mendenhall's job? Really? ESPN informed the audience that he has the 8th best winning percentage over his head coaching career.

    Calling for Doman's job? After THREE games?

    Just a month ago, most of you were telling anyone who would listen that Heaps would be great this season. Heaps is a true sophomore, not another post red-shirt, post mission 23 year old quarterback that you have taken for granted for decades. He will make mistakes, but he has potential. Are you going to give up on him already?

    Many of you have been talking about EXPOSURE. What was exposed on ESPN was a less than capacity crowd that headed early for the exits. Nice!

    Bottom line - nothing went your way last night. You were outcoached and outplayed, and the breaks went against you. That happens sometimes. Of course you're frustrated, but a lot of you are spouting crazy talk!

    Have faith, stay the course, etc.

    Good luck with the rest of the season.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:48 a.m.

    I think we can now understand why Whittingham was BYU's 1st choice and Bronco was the 3rd or 4th. He better start teaching our young men a little personal accountability or it will get worse. Press conferences where he takes all the blame aren't helpful. I remember Whittingham after the Montana State game saying "our offense is awful. We play like that and we won't win a game in the PAC 12." Come on Bronco, challenge someone on our team to take a little responsibility(Mr. Heaps).

  • Tom in MS Madison, MS
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    After seeing what Vanderbilt did to Ole Miss yesterday, I am one that wasn't that surprised at the outcome of the game. The score, yes, the outcome, no. All the Utes had to do was incorporate everything that Texas did in the 2nd half last week and they would win. It seems they did just that.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:40 a.m.

    Congrats to the Utes. That was quite a statement! I think BYU fans should have known the game was going to be bad when the snap went over the head of Heaps and he did his best three stooges impression and could not throw it away or dive on it for a safety.

    I think Doman panicked early. I don't think they had to abandon the run game when they went down by two possessions early in the second half. The more you can take the game out of the decision-making of Heaps, the better. Still Doman doesn't have a good QB to work with, so I don't know you can ask for his job, yet.

    Remember many BYU fans tried to run Lavell out early, turned their back on Chow after all the illustrious years he was apart of (how is that working for you?). You can't keep changing coordinators like a pair of socks and think it is going to work, or draw talent to come coach for you. It's fun to get to know the entire QB depth chart at BYU from the comments board by the third week, but some sanity needs to prevail.

  • One Nil to the Arsenal! Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    Can someone please go to Ducky & Sammyg's house to make sure they are ok? I'm a little nervous, I haven't seen a post from them since what, ...... the late 3rd quarter. In the words of Timberlake, "what goes around comes back around".

    I have been waiting for this moment for a long time. I even went to church today just to see the faces of my neighbors who have talked smack all year long. But, unlike them, I will take the higher road today. Hey, it's the sabbath, this inactive still has some sympathy. Tough, Tough loss for BYU. I hope this isn't a season breaker for them. They need to forget about this and turn it around. Last year, after we were trounced by TCU...we carried that loss with us to ND, and you saw what happened.

    I agree with many posts on here regarding Bronco. To much hype, not enough action. I know he's a good coach, but he needs to take a lesson from Kyle. One game at a time. Great game Ute's, now lets get ready for the Huskies. They put up 38 points on Nebraska.

    "It's great to be a Ute"

  • bixby35 BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    There is always basketball season to look forward to BYU fans and even without Jimmer they will be good and Utah will suck again unfortunately. However in football enjoyed this game all the way through and I never watch blowouts.

  • ray vaughn Ogden, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    Has Jake Heaps considered contacting Ben Olson and asked how to transfer to another university? wow! this pathetic offensive must have Riley Nelson wishing for the offensive game plan at Utah State University.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    What in the name of Virgil Carter, Mark Lyons, Gary Sheide, Gifford Nielson, Marc Wilson, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Robbie Bosco, Ty Detmer, and Lavell Edwards was that????

    Abandon Ship! Abandon Ship. Old Cougar over board!! Pass the red decals...big enough to cover the blue ones.

    A Utah Man am I, Sir!!!!

    I cannot support a team of quitters.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    Thanks goodness that Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State and San Jose State are on the schedule. That should give the Cougs four more wins. I think the Utah State and Central Florida games are losses based on what I saw tonight [please BYU don't lose to a team-Central Florida-that just lost to Florida International (that sounds like an airport)] that the Utah State, Oregon State, Hawaii and Central Florida games are toss-ups. They will probably need to win at least one of these games to go to a bowl game.

    Bad losses, even to rivals happen. BYU looked unprepared. But what got me and Bronco needs to address this is bad, his team gave up. They held White in check until the fourth quarter. His long gashing runs showed the poor effort BYU was putting for in the effort department. Yes, turnovers happen and even stupid play like Heaps nor Falslev not falling on the ball, but there is no excuse for giving up!

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    re: patriot | 12:25 a.m. Sept. 18, 2011

    "Doman is a joke. Doman would be better served as the offensive coordinator at Sky Line high school. Also, BYU has NO TALENT.. especially on the offensive and defensive lines."

    1st, its Skyline.

    2nd, BYU has talent just no conditioning or maybe they run strictly on passion/emotion. When that wears off you get the 2nd half of last nights game.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:24 a.m.

    Band of quitters

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    re: CougFaninTX | 11:25 p.m. Sept. 17, 2011

    "Let's make Doman either the OC or the QBC. He can't do both."

    I can't help but wonder if Doman is the OC in name only & Reynolds is calling the shots. He is in the booth where an OC should be.

  • Nostradamus Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    First, I was wrong to doubt my Utes. As a wise person (giantfan) instructed was and is too soon to tell. The Utes looked good and I have much more confidence in Jordan Wynn.

    Second, why is it that it feels better to say the "Utes aren't that great" and BYU is worse? Seems like a pretty sophomoric statement made over and over on this blog.

    Finally, GREAT GAME Utes! Domination.

    Go Utes!

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    Apparently, the stars in the heavens have not lined up in such a manner since the 1920s. Glad I was there to savor such a great evening. Thank you, Utah!

  • CWOOD1111 Holladay, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:07 a.m.

    way to go utes!

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    The BYU Coaching Staff let down the team and all of Cougar Nation. They obviously don't focus on winning football games. BYU needs to make some big decisions. Do they want a football program; or not? I can see a scenario where this is the beginning of the end of BYU football.

  • B Logan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    @AH C'MON

    Remind me never to go into battle with you.

  • x Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    What I'd give to have Bronco lose his temper and go off on his team. When, as players, your know your coach won't get mad at you, it's easy to slack off and forget fundamentals, become Prima Donnas and overestimate how good you are.

    Pride came before the fall.

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:47 a.m.


    here is a tissue.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    Unlike some of my brethren, I never believed the Cougs had much of a shot at going undefeated this year. They are too young and they are playing a tougher schedule than they did in the MWC. But I believed they were capable of a 9 or 10 win season.

    Many teams never rebound from a loss like this. If BYU doesn't rebound next week, a winning season may be out of the question.

    Game changers.

    The bad snap. Heaps needs to fall on the ball or kick it out of the end zone. Giving up 2 points is better than 7. Heaps looks like he's afraid of getting hit. He may have talent, but he lacks heart.

    DiLuigi's fumble inside the 5 yard line. DiLuigi does not run well between the tackles. I don't know why we continue to try. Use him on sweeps or options or catching the ball out of the backfield. Use Kariya up the middle. Nelson should be brought in for situations like this.

    Uale's pass interference penalty on 3rd down. Completely uncalled for by Uale. The pass was not catchable.

    Falslev's muff. The straw that broke the camel's back. Cougs gave up after this.

  • Montana Mormon Miles City, MT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    Y cry?

    Because of U!!!!!!

  • B Logan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:26 a.m.

    To all the BYU fans RIPPING their own team: Lighten up. This happens. I remember sitting in the North end zone up at Rice stadium in 1988 and watching BYU (a 3 touchdown favorite) get destroyed by the Utes 57-28. The coach was LaVell Edwards. The Offensive coordinator was Norm Chow. And for a lot of the game, the QB was Ty Detmer. That was the worst game I have ever been to. But, believe it or not, things got MUCH better the next season.

    Quit ripping on Heaps, Doman, and especially Mendenall. Mendenhall brought the program back from disaster. Last night was a debacle, no doubt. But BYU will be back and sometime down the road, do the same thing to Utah. It's football. That's how it works. So crack open a Diet Coke, drown your sorrows, and get ready for next week.

    And by the way, Utah, don't think that every team is going to give you the ball SEVEN times.

  • Manny Being Manny Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    I was at the game last night and was completely embarrassed for our team. More than the lack of preparation, abandonment of fundamentals, turnovers, no adjustments, missed assignments, trying to do too much, two things bothered me more than anything:

    1. Pride - one example gets in the way. When 30-10, BYU's kick returner turns to the crowd angrily to try to get us pumped up, almost like "how dare you not cheer for us" all the way up to about 3 seconds before the kickoff. And what does the do? Muff the kickoff! How about you concentrate on your assignment and we'll do ours!

    2. Quit - the team just quit. So much for Tradition, Spirit, Honor.

    Absolutely humiliating to have Ute fans singing "nah nah nah nah hey hey hey goodbye" to you in your own stadium.

    Refund please!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    re:Otis Spurloc

    The majority of fans don't watch losers. BYU will always have a loyal group even if they go 1-10 on the year but we are talking about 25000 fans in 65000 seat Lavell Edwards Stadium in late November if this nonsense keeps up.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Hey Brigham Young University People:

    Humility can be a good thing.
    Best to learn to walk the walk. prior to talking the talk.
    Congratulations University of Utah!

  • Salt lake teams rule Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    I have to say, cougar fans seem to have finally come back to earth. It seems all year they were trying to downplay the utes move to the pac 12, like somehow going independent was an equal counter-move. However, after tonight I think the difference in recruiting is no longer debatable. How much faster was the utah defense? How much faster were utah's receivers & running backs? How much stronger were our O & D lines? Talent is important, coaching is important, having both is the key.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    Let's all remember, Bronco hired Doman. No more excuses about him. Heaps has numerous routes per play to choose from.

    They were outplayed, outcoached, and outexecuted.

    Long live Jake Heaps, Utah's 12th man!

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    I don't know which is more surprising, the final score or how quickly byu "fans" will turn on their team. byu got killed because they couldn't hold onto the ball, not because they were out coached. Utah's defense just overpowered byu's offense.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:48 a.m.

    One more thought. A lot of the hype during the off season centered around BYU having so many returning starters. Maybe that wasn't such a positive thing after all. I was always puzzled why having returning players from a 7-5 team was such a positive. As we look at the games so far this season, things are looking shockingly similar to last season. Hopefully for BYU's sake this can be the USU game for this year and you can turn things around from here.

  • derecha Central, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    As a fan of BYU, I am disappointed and embarrassed! As a player, I would be thinking about hanging it up. It's one thing to lose big to a rival, which I am fine with if you give it your all, but to go out and give up playing after being down 20 is ridiculous. This team needs to reevaluate where its heart is because right now, I don't see much at all. These two teams are not that far apart.

    Sept. 18, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    Utah beat BYU as they left the MWC as a little goodbye gift. Bronco made excuses and even stated that "the best team didn't win". Bronco then stated they were going for a National Championship, Jake Heaps is a Heisman candidate the BYU boosters were "saducees and pharisees" etc...

    Now Utah just beat BYU tremendously in the new PAC 12 UTE and Independent BYU era. Do you see the common denominator of problems here? BRONCO and BYU FOOTBALL HYPE. ALL TALK and NO WALK.

    I love BYU as an outstanding University... but dang Bronco you are making it hard to like the football team and you as the head coach. I totally respect Whittingham and his "Shut-up and play one game at a time" philosophy...Its working.

    Bronco and BYU football team: Try some humility or you get humbled.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    I have a lot of friends who are BYU fans and I know they've got to be hurting this morning. To them I say, I feel for you. As a fan I know what it's like to have expectations trounced by a bad loss or two.

    BYU has talented people running their program. Before this game they didn't seem to be thinking changes needed to be made. For the sake of your program and its future I hope this game helps them realize they need to make changes. I'm not saying personnle need to be changed, but obviously what's being done either in preparation or during the game isn't working. In three consecutive games they do okay in the first half and then the wheels seem to come off in the second half. BYU's second half has gotten progressively worse each game. That's got to be fixable.

    I remember Coach Witt's first season at Utah. Things were not going well the first couple of games. Coach Witt called every coach and player into his office for a personal chat to figure out what needed to be done. Things got much better from there. Maybe Bronco could learn from that.

  • pele Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    While at the game last night, for some strange reason, at the beginning of the fourth quarter I felt compelled to rise and shout as the cougar fans filed out.

  • mahblah77 Eagle Mountain, Ut
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    54-10 - It was like watching a Sophomore high school (Utah is not that good) team VS. a 7th grade (BYU offense and Special teams) team, except 7th graders have less turnovers - there are some teams that have less turnovers in a whole season. Hey Doman, go upstairs like every other O coordinator. Yes, you will miss out on a couple chest bumps and bum pats when Opo scores the only BYU touchdown for you every game. Heaps is like watching a 6th grader with ADHD! Take a Ritalin and chill. There is zero continuity on offense, but a lot of selfishness. Heaps, be a leader and talk to your team, instead of glaring out in the field. Watch the Defense and learn how to come together!

    UGHH, it's last year all over again and UCF is a lot better that Utah and Utah State . . . 1-4 is very likely. It's a good thing Idaho St is coming to town. However, I heard they took a JV team to OT. Good luck, that was awful and embarrassing. At least you looked great on ESPN and Utah, dont brag, you guys were handed this win.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    This is one of those games where you find out you're not as good as you thought you were. Hopefully BYU fans can rally around their team while they learn from this and rebuild. Jake Heaps will be a great quarterback, but he just isn't there yet. As "Utes Fan" said, we know what its like having the wheels come off in your own stadium on ESPN. It will get better. See you next September.

  • mattb7 Sterling, VA
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    Where was the leadership among the Cougars?

    Some talent and coaching disparities were painfully obvious: Utah's defense probably is the fastest the Y might face all season, and the Cougar offense--starting with the OC and quarterback--had no clever answers with play-calling, no heroic performances with the pass.

    But leadership?

    Nobody on the blue team seemed to show it--not the coaches, and certainly not the quarterback. Even when you're getting pasted somebody has to step forward to keep the team focused, committed, resolved to at least play for pride . . . to do SOMETHING well.

    Utah's game against TCU last year was similar to last night's. The Utes were outgunned and started to come apart--back-to-back penalties, a little deer-in-the-headlights creeping across the players' faces, getting mauled by a fast, superior defense. But Whittingham's team preparation and physical presence--charisma--prevented complete meltdown.

    Last night Bronco looked like he was forcing himself to watch a chess tournament that was putting him to sleep.

    But from a diehard Ute fan: Don't give up BYU. Figure this out, and get back up. You have a lot of season left.

  • AH C'MON South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    I too was a BYU fan. But since they got rid of Coach Anae and Mark Atuaia last year, my loyalty started to slip especially reflecting what happened about 10 years ago when Coach Chow after 26 years at BYU got rejected for being the next Head Coach. Then they removed Jared Afalava's scholarship within a few weeks of Jared's commment on Deseret News that he was leaning towards the Utes or the Ducks, my loyalty slipped even bigger. Imagine, removing a scholarship from a 17 year old kid who was just being honest about what he was thinking. On top of that, BYU told him during BYU Camp when all Jared wanted to do was hang out with his Kahuku childhood friends from Hawaii. Then listeining to Coach Whittingham and Coach Sitake testimony of the Gospel in a recent fireside and last nights game, I am done. Like Chow, it is a new ERA!!!! I declare UTAH UTES FAN from this day on. Go UTES!!!! Coach Whittingham and his coordinators ROCK!!!!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    The Utes Chow down. Bronco better spin another warm and fuzzy slogan. Go Utes! The Pac 12 is the best!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:14 a.m.


    Calm down there boy. Don't get ahead of yourself.

    You said:
    "Coug fans, you saw tonight what it takes to play in an QA (sic) conference".

    As if Utah being in the Pac-12 had anything to do with BYU's 7 gifts to U?
    Did Utah destroy BYU or did BYU destroy itself? Both. It was a complete meltdown.

    It is appparent to everyone that Whit is the better coach. His intensity remains all game long. Bronco's soft sell is not effective. He was outcoached, no doubt.

    BYU and Utah both looked out for their best interests when they bolted the MWC, for you to slam BYU for going Independent and leaving their Conference behind is a bit hypocritical, don't you think?

    You won, you destroyed BYU this game. It's one game, we'll see after this year is played out and the next few years if Utah will be among the contenders in the Pac or not.

    BYU served it up to you on a platter, their mistakes made it easy for U. We saw Utah do the same 3 times last year. How did U protect your top 5 ranking last year? Notre Dame, TCU, Boise St.?

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    byu will end up 7-5 and everyone will be saying how good heaps will be next year, both as a result of the weakest remaining schedule of any division one team. pathetic. heaps is terrible, theres probably 70 college qbs id take over him. and im not just going off of this game.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    I think the thing that is the most upsetting to me is how the whole team gave up so early in the game. This team needs to look at this and figure this out.

    Now, this team has a choice to make, either this will be a stepping stone or a stumbling block for the rest of the year. You have to decide now on how to react to this.

    To a BYU fan, the whole game was like a very terrible train wreck in slow motion and I bet it was the same for the team and coaches.

    The defense played well - Until They Gave Up. The offense, well, needs some special help.

    This team needs to be dressed down by Bronco The coaching staff needs it also. Also, the players do not need to be talking to the media anymore.

    Bronco, it is time to take the lead on this team among the coaches and direct them on what to do. It looks like some of the coaches are in a bit above their heads. If the coaches need to learn, then teach them.

    Go Cougars!

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 8:01 a.m.

    Been a Cougar fan since 1974. That was the first time I've seen them give up and the first time I ever left a game early. I'll always watch and support my team as long as they are giving they're best effort. That clearly didn't happen last night. Apparently I wasn't the only one who felt that way. The score was 40-10 when I left along with droves of other Cougar fans including Lavell and Patty Edwards.

    Last year Bronco fired Jaime Hill after the USU game. Is he going to fire himself this year? Drastic changes need to be made because this is a team that is clearly not prepared to compete with quality competition. Maybe hire an experienced OC to be a "Co-Coordinator" like Texas did. Maybe hire an experienced DC so that Bronco can concentrate on being HC. Maybe hire a new HC and demoting Bronco to DC. Maybe benching Heaps and giving Lark a shot. Maybe making the offense more creative and less predictable like we were promised. Do SOMETHING different because what you're doing now isn't working! Not sure I'll keep going to games this year if changes aren't made.

  • Adam Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:58 a.m.

    I could never play for a coach like Bronco. Here's a guy that shows no emotion for his troops to either rally around or to be a bit "scared straight" when they need some sort of momentum change. I love how after each time Utah punches BYU right in the mouth with one of thier scores Bronco just stands there holding up his PAT signal. Well, I guess to Bronco it's all about the message/mission at BYU. BYU football players don't suck I just wonder how they truly feel playing for a coach with his personality.

  • Spot Light Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    There is always next year for BYU to try again, but this score will last all season!

  • Spot Light Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    Looks like Bronco let the Cheerleaders play this game?

  • WeberCatBasketballFan Midway, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    NevadaCoug: You got your wish, BYU stopped settling for field goals. :)

    Cougars, take heart, you have a better kicker, a much better kicker, than Utah!

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    "Seriously, this "UNLV" type of game for BYU - losing awfully to bitter PAC 12 Utah rival - has the opportunity to be a changer for BYU to go from a good program to great."

    Or, it has the possibility of deciding that BYU should be relegated to on Wednesday night.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:24 a.m.

    Well, perhaps, just perhaps, things did not go well at the Lord's University because the Lord does not care who wins as the Lord has many universities and colleges.

    Utah's victory is the direct result of what each player on the field did. Utah caused the fumbles, Utah recovered the fumbles, Utah intercepted a pass, Utah scored off that interception. Utah scored touchdowns and made field goals. Utah defense but a blanket on the Y's offense. Norm Chow is a better OC than Brandon Doman. It is the Utes victory. They did not win because of what the other team did not do, they won because of what they did.

    This is a Utah victory! Period.

    Jake can say the game would be different if there hadn't been any fumbles, but there were fumbles, lots of them and many were caused by Utah! The final was 54 - 10. Get used to it!

  • NDenverUte BRIGHTON, CO
    Sept. 18, 2011 7:21 a.m.

    I thought the Utes would/could win by a score of 24-10, turns out I was off by 30 points. Awesome all around game by the Utes, think we have a gret chance of winning the South, and if Stanford keeps winnning, that means a trip to the Rose Bowl.

    GO UTES!!!

  • JamisonDavis Darien, CT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:54 a.m.

    I think a better name for this article would have been FAST AND PREY. Ouch. Oh well better luck next year Cougs.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:52 a.m.

    Does this mean byu fans will stop posting their bitter comments on utah football articles?, then they wouldn't meet the definition of a cougar fan.

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:52 a.m.

    Great to see BYU's INDEPENDENT thing working out nicely!! Doman looked like a deer in headlights! Very entertaining!

  • first2third Elmo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 6:42 a.m.

    Hi, My name is Tom...I am a BYU Fan (Hi, Tom)

    A few observations/questions

    1. Can ESPN ask for a refund or their money back?

    2. Chis B was STILL way off on his prediction. Not even he could have predicted how bad this was.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:12 a.m.

    Injured Wynn vs. Heaps

    Injured Wynn over Heaps any day.

    3 beat-downs in 8 years... this isn't the 80s Utes.

    I'm still waiting to see which one of our offensive players wouldn't start at BYU. Please provide the list.

    How's the fetal position feeling courtesy of Ute football?

  • Max Syracuse, NY
    Sept. 18, 2011 5:06 a.m.

    Well, we knew the programs were moving in different directions when Utah went to the Pac 10 and BYU went independent, but what a shocker. I don't think anybody expected they would be this far apart so soon.

    P.S. I think BYU waited FAR too long to put Nelson in. In three games Heaps has proven that he just isn't ready for prime time. They should start Nelson next time.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:37 a.m.

    Utes Fan, classy post. Maybe the classiest I've seen.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:36 a.m.


    Take a moment to consider what byu did to Utah State, the WAC, the MWC in it's exuberance to move to independent. The conduct of byu in taking those actions was disrespectful and yes, even dishonest.

    How is BYU leaving the MWC different than Utah leaving the MWC?

    BYU did NOTHING to Utah State or the WAC. Nevada and Fresno State, two schools who were part of negotiating an agreement with BYU LEFT the WAC, nullifying the deal. If there was dishonesty on anyone's part, it was those two schools. Once they left, the WAC option was no longer the same. I wouldn't be surprised if you've posted making fun of BYU's "WAC" schedule. Do you think those schools, including Utah State, would schedule BYU if they thought they'd been done wrong by BYU?

    Your rush to judgement didn't include facts.

  • Bob H Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 18, 2011 3:28 a.m.

    Where oh where is BYU's running game? It should take pressure of Jake Heaps but it's been nonexistent so far. I know it's ONLY game three but Cougars seem to be regressing. What to do?

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:31 a.m.

    I still respect Bronco and BYU football a lot. Personally, I predict this might be BYU's "UNLV" game - you know, when Utah was dominated by UNLV 27 to 0 in 2007. Utah was never the same after that - BCS, PAC 12, etc.

    The jump from good to great is much, much more than the jump from average to good. It takes a painful memory to go from good to great.

    Seriously, this "UNLV" type of game for BYU - losing awfully to bitter PAC 12 Utah rival - has the opportunity to be a changer for BYU to go from a good program to great. We'll see if that happens. To be honest, I hope so - it will make the rivalry between Utah and BYU great again.

    Just trying to comfort you BYU fans - we Utes had 3 awful blowouts last year. It ain't fun, I know.

  • HyrumAggie HYRUM, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:14 a.m.

    Congrats Utes.
    Hey Cougars, way to finish the games the last two weeks.

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:08 a.m.

    Apology: Sincerely offer my personal apology to coaches and players for negative comments I have made on sports articles during last two games. Coaches and players give 100+ times more effort to succeed than I, from my comfortable armchair. It must surely hurt to see high aspirations fall short of the goal, after tremendous preparation and efforts. Doesn't help when people pile on. Hope coaches and players experience success for remainder of the year and in the seasons to come.

  • Rolston SLC, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:05 a.m.

    I just left the shed and boy does my backside hurt.

  • tyfosho ROCKWALL, TX
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:04 a.m.

    BYU fans - do you feel like you're being left behind? It's a serious question.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 2:02 a.m.

    "FullyInvested | 12:19 a.m. Sept. 18, 2011

    Remember, Jake isn't just playing football...he's serving a full-time mission too. People talk about how hard full-time missionary service is, they just had to knock doors, Jake has to step into a collapsing pocket and and get hit in the ribs. Cut him a break!! He's reaching millions of non-members for the church via ESPN.

    Would you treat a missionary in your ward like this if he fumbled a roll at your dinner table? Put your criticism into context. "

    As an LDS person, I find your post not only inaccurate but pretty blasphemous. A full time mission serving the Lord is NOT football.

  • cheeseman187 Costa Mesa, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:54 a.m.

    I'm not watching this team anymore. They folded after a few plays in Utah's favor.

    They don't care, so I don't care.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:46 a.m.

    Dr Doom, aka Duckhunter- Your crow is ready. Please come and gag it down!

  • UgottaloveMaxie SLC, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:41 a.m.


  • manaen Buena Park, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:38 a.m.

    As a BYU fan and alum, I apologize to the Utes for not giving them a meaningful game. I remember how disappointed I was after our 38-8 victory over Oregon in the LV Bowl because i felt that Oregon was so poorly prepared and played so badly that beating them didn't mean anything. We came to that game ready so that if they'd won, their victory would have meant something. I believe that we cheated Utah out of any meaning of their win tonight because about any 11 guys with uniforms and cleats could have beaten my Cougars tonight.

    "Never send a boy to do a man's job." I believe that the coaches are unfair to Heaps by putting him on the field while he so very clearly is not ready to play D1 football. Paul said that the Lord would not tempt/test/try us beyond what we're able to handle; why is "the Lord's university" doing so to this boy who wants to play for us?

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:31 a.m.

    Don't worry BYU fan, at least you guys can still win the MWC, er, WAC, er, you will still be the champ of your own 1 team conference.

    Bronco=Coach of the Year ICC/Independent Cougar Conference.

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:28 a.m.

    Coug fans, you saw tonight what it takes to play in an QA conference. Take a moment to consider what byu did to Utah State, the WAC, the MWC in it's exuberance to move to independent. The conduct of byu in taking those actions was disrespectful and yes, even dishonest. And for what? For football? With super conferences on the horizon and bridges burned with the regional non-AQ conferences, byu is where with football and sports in general?

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:22 a.m.

    Fully invested, "Greater calling?"

    The problem is, Bronco thinks his calling is to TALK, not to perform. So do his players. I, for one, wanted the players to quit the "great offensive line," "Talented receivers," "Top ten receiver group" (last year's saying), talk not just this year, but EVERY year.

    I'll give you a little quote from 3 Nephi:

    "And ye see that I have commanded that none of you should go away, but rather have commanded that ye should come unto me, that ye might FEEL and SEE; even so shall ye do unto the world; and whosoever breaketh this commandment suffereth himself to be led into temptation."

    See, some people think Jesus was about sermons and "firesides," but he didn't say, "Let me talk a good game," he said, "Watch me, touch my wounds. I'll SHOW you who I am."

    Ironically, Kyle Whittingham and the Ute's LDS players and coaches may give the LDS Church more "exposure" because of how they perform.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:21 a.m.

    Looking back on the past spring and summer I don't blame the BYU fans for their bragging. I feel sorry for them, because it appears they were duped by the hype put out by the coaches, especially Bronco, and the media. I hope Bronco realizes how important it is to recognize your opponents efforts when they beat you instead of claiming your team was still the best team, even though your lost. I can bet that quote from him was on the bulletin board in the Ute's locker room and the Utes put an exclamation point on last year's win just to make sure he understands what the final score means.

    A few comments here somehow are trying to make it out to seem that points off turnovers are somehow not as credible and other points. Give me a break. That's like saying Kyle Van Noy's game winning touchdown against Ole Miss somehow should be discounted.

    All the BYU fans who have been saying we will be relegated to the basement of the Pac 12, where does that put BYU?

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:20 a.m.

    FullyInvested | 12:19 a.m. Sept. 18, 2011

    Here's a news flash for you...

    Mendenhall is being paid approximately $1M per year to take on the responsibilities of a head football coach of a major D-1 university. He is NOT a General Authority. Sports at byu is not missionary work and Jake Heaps elected last year to go on a mission.

    Just wanted to offer a few points of clarification because you are clearly very confused.

  • rich_rogers SANDY, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:18 a.m.

    All I can say is after three disastrous outings (Yes, three--BYU should have beat Ol' Miss by a larger margin, they should have won against Texas, but handed the game to them, with basic mistakes a team with this many returning starters shouldn't make, and then tonight. HOw do you explain 7 turnovers?)the Cougars need to make some changes in their coaching staff. Perhaps Brandon Doman isn't the man for the job as OC. The BYU team I watched tonight could have been beaten by a junior high school football team.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:17 a.m.

    rightascension | 11:31 p.m. Sept. 17, 2011

    Last week Branco wore a t-shirt that read "Band of Brothers." Next week , he should wear one that reads, "I'm with stupid."

    I bet the BYU team members won't find dates for the next two weeks. Even the ones who are married.

    Best post of the night!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:10 a.m.

    Watching the replay on byUtv. It's even better the second time. Just watched the Dres Anderson TD again. Love it!

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:06 a.m.

    Coach Chow certainly knows how to close out a game. I'll bet he had a BLAST tonight. Great hire, Coach Whitt...welcome to Utah Coach Chow!!

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 1:01 a.m.

    And that Cougar fans is how it's done in the big boy leagues!!

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:55 a.m.

    meant DOES NOT PUT WINNING FIRST...seriously the most pathetic team in any sport. thanks utah....if the game would have ended like the ole miss game or even the texas game with a 1 point loss, i would have given byu chances and maybe said something like "oh, next game, they should come together so just try and be patient". Nope, this one is easy so thanks for the whooping, now I can focus on other things along with saving money because i will not send byu another penny. Good luck the rest of the year utes and hope to win every game from here on out. Clearly, the better team got invited to the PAC 12 and also won the game tonight. Congrats again.

  • why play SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:51 a.m.

    BYU's BIG problem (Coaches, Players, Fans)= You get too high when things are good, you get too low when things are bad!


    *Players strut arouned like they just won the Super Bowl after every routine football play. Hey defenders, you are supposed to stop the play!! Wynn's bad throw does not mean you made a good play!!!

    *Players gave up!!!

    *Doman- Running around the sideline like he just threw the TD to Apo!!! Get in the booth and focus on calling the game! When the D is on the field, that's a good time to prepare for the next series, not chest bump the whole sideline!! Seriously!!! Doman, you are not a player anymore, K!!!

    *Fans- well, read the 140 prior comments!!!

    Yes, football is an emotional game, but you must also act like you have been there before and you did what you were supposed to do!! Don't Quit!!!

    Finally, Bronco has some great characteristics, but he makes Bill Belichick look like an out-of-control, emotional, crazy man!!!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:50 a.m.

    Keep your heads up, Cougar fans.

    Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes you get in a downward spiral and you lose a game big. Utah has laid a few eggs, too, in their history.

    Yes, the Utah D had some great plays in stripping the ball/turnovers but it's impossible to ignore that there were many times we simply GAVE Utah the ball (3rd play of the game, anyone?)

    In the first half I saw MANY hits by BYU's D that will make highlight reels for years to come (the endzone collision that popped off that Utes helmet?.....and, no, I don't think he intended to do that/no flag was a good call).

    Where I thought we lost it was the Utes 60+ yard drive right before the half where they scored the TD to go ahead. They looked exceptionally sharp and our D didn't seem to have an answer to their ability to move the ball from that point on.

    Changes will have to be made. For one, I have no idea as to why your OC thinks he can play call better from the ground. Bronco showing enthusiasm would be good, too.

    Go Cougars!

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:47 a.m.

    Wow...I think too much talk about BYU past is hurting the program. The past is the past. I'm a big Bronco supporter, but tonight made me frustrated. Let's hope for some kind of turn around. And hats off to Utah, you guys played great and kicked our butts. It is what it is.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:44 a.m.

    It's interesting I make a neutral comment (maybe a bit negative) about Chris B and it get blocked by D News but a poster can make a comment like "nice wife Jake" and it gets through ~ unreal

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    just as I predicted, (and I'm a Y fan), turnovers, special teams, (kicking game), deception of Utes did in the Cougs...I'm very disappointed in the Cougs, very disappointed.

  • Go Utes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:41 a.m.

    Go Utes! Amazing game. I want to compliment the Cougars (not being sarcastic). I thought they handled the beat down well. I am sure they will brush this off and have a great season going forward. We all know that the game would have been very different without the turnovers (although, that is of course part of the game). I thought Wynn looked better--still not up to his potential. It was getting pretty embarassing by the end. I was wanting the game to end almost as bad as the Y fans toward the end when it sort of turned into a joke. This is one to remember. Great job Utes! Y fans, we know how these blow outs feel. I wish you well in the rest of the season. I will say (and I am not trying to rub it in) that I think it would be easier for Y fans if there was not always so much hype and impossibly high expectations every year. You just can't start talking about BCS bowls in August and September and then expect to not be disappointed down the road. As I noted, I'm sure you will finish strong. GO UTES!!

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:37 a.m.

    Tickets $50, Caffeine Free Diet Coke, $3.50...
    Watching Bronco put the Loser sign to his head after each Ute touchdown and seeing all of the BYU Fans streaming out of LES in the 3rd quarter..Priceless!

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:33 a.m.

    "Yup, Washington did not win a single game that year (even lost to BYU in Seattle). Washington has had a rough decade, my point was/is that Utah has a great shot at the PAC 12 title if they play like they did tonight and like they did at USC."

    Even if they play like they did tonight, they will still struggle since they won't have BYU giving them Bounce passes.

    Congrats to the Utes by beating the Y, you now qualify as right behind the UTAH STATE AGGIES.

    To bad you wont have a shot to prove it, and we will have to go by stats.

  • El Chango Supremo Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:33 a.m.


  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    Wow, that was definitely a unique game between the in-state rivals. No one expected this. As much as I loved the beat down, I still feel bad for certain BYU players. Especially the kid who botched the kickoff return. No one likes to disappoint your teammates with big mistakes. However I don't feel bad for Heaps, he ran his mouth more than anyone and is eating serious humble pie right now.

    I seriously want to hear from Duckhunter. There is some serious crow to be eaten. Other Cougar trolls don't bother me so much because I know they are just trolling and contributing playful banter, but Duckhunter is dead serious in all of his posts and is NEVER wrong.

    John White is a stud and I love watching him. I like our team, I really do. We have some great athletes and we should be in for some good football teams in the future. Hopefully this game gave Wynn some confidence. If he can eliminate these silly mistakes and gain some confidence then I like him at the helm.

    May we all remember that this is just a GAME! Nothing to be taken too seriously.

    Go Utes!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    I have to give credit to the remaining loyal BYU fans who continue to watch this circus the rest of the season. I guess the term "long suffering" comes to mind!! Maybe BYU should drop back to 1AA football?? Dixie College and Snow might be better matches. Bronco will leave BYU soon and the Y will be losing a really good coach. Bronco will succeed somewhere else but no one will succeed at BYU going forward. I think fans will remember this game as the turning point in BYU football - or maybe better said the beginning of the demise.

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    first things first....sorry to all the utah fans for my trash talking all this time. 2nd....byu is the worse team ever....i'm done following a team that puts winning football games first and that allows a first year o coordinator to still stand on the sideline...and for leaving in the most over rated qb i have ever seen. i am no longer donating money to byu athletics as long as bronco continues to down play winning as being the first thing this football team is suppose to do, i am no longer a fan. what a pathetic group of coaches with a couple of pathetic players that think they've already won the national championship (i.e heaps, renolds and apo).

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:30 a.m.

    Congrats to Jordan Wynn!! This kid has taken a lot of criticism even though he played with an injured shoulder last season. But he has led Utah to 2, 10 win seasons and he deserves credit! I hope he can do it again this year! He is a great leader and a great person. Congrats jordan!

  • Flames6 North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    sammyg manned up so props to him/her. Duckhunter is nowhere to be found. Should have plenty of time on that fancy phone he crows abour while stuck in that Utah Co traffic.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:27 a.m.

    Most points gifted to another team in BYU history? Heaps has scored more for the other team than he has for BYU combined all year! Offense is pitiful under Doman, makes you wonder why they fired Anae after BYU finished so strong last year??? The most embarrassing part is that after a few unlucky turnovers and gifts gave the game away, this team just folded and made it look even worse!

    The Defense will still get them some wins provided the offense doesn't gift 31 points to every team, but I am not so sure Heaps and Doman have what it takes to win games on the offensive side against good teams???

  • Utah Girl Vernal, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:26 a.m.

    I hope this isn't a computer screen froze, so I had to do a copy/paste.

    Amazingly awful game! I'm not sure what happened to BYU, but I hope whatever it is, it can be fixed in a hurry!! Kudos to the Utes for playing a good game. BYU has so much talent, but something seems to be wrong with the timing, and with being able to get into the end zone. Fumbles and miscues really hurt us tonight. Pick up the pieces and do better next week. Still love ya!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    BYU fans were all so READY to get rid of Anae and get Doman. So how about now??? Doman is a joke. Doman would be better served as the offensive coordinator at Sky Line high school. Also, BYU has NO TALENT.. especially on the offensive and defensive lines. Goodness sakes these kids are BAD! No coach could make this team a winner. Bronco is a great guy and I think a good coach but its the talent of the field that wins and BYU doesn't have it. Utah is a good team. A high school QB could have found open receivers tonight with the time Wynn had to throw. Wynn will get destroyed against Oregon and other Pac 12 teams .... rag arm with ZERO zip on the ball.

  • Utah Girl Vernal, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:23 a.m.

    Amazingly awful game! I'm not sure what happened to BYU, but I hope whatever it is, it can be fixed in a hurry!! Kudos to the Utes for playing a good game. BYU has so much talent, but something seems to be wrong with the timing, and with being able to get into the end zone. Fumbles and miscues really hurt us tonight. Pick up the pieces and do better next week. Still love ya!

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:21 a.m.

    I actually felt kind of bad for the cougs until I read the posts from a few of the byu fans. Do you not realize good defenses force turnovers? That good teams make adjustments at halftime? All the sour grapes in Utah county do nothing but make a pretty good whine. I'm shocked. I really thought BYU would put up a little more fight. You don't need to throw yourr defense under the bus. If the O can't move (or hang on to) the ball time, of possesion against any team that badly will wear any D out. Good luck with the rest of the season. It's hard for me to really hate you anymore as the game is not that important up north. I've been going to games quite a while now and I know the way you are feeling right now. This used to happen to us on a yearly basis.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:19 a.m.

    Bronco is at his best tonight...he is building fine young men(not football players) Great job Bronco. Is this the kind of exposure you wanted?

  • jiacheng09 Provo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:17 a.m.

    What is BYU's problem? Is it Doman, the OC who called very few good plays throughout the game? Is it Heaps who was so terribly inaccurate it made me cringe? Is it the defense that only lasts for one half? Or is it all of the above? This is absolutely the worst BYU game I have ever witnessed, and it was in the biggest game of the year. Sure there are other games to be played, but without a conference, or a decent bowl game to go to this seems like it should have been the game of the year. I don't know what happened, but I am done with Doman. Bench Heaps. That may seem hasty, but neither of them are performing. The offense has been inept through three games. BYU didn't go independent to beat up on teams like UTEP. It went indepent to become a BCS team. Something has to change soon or BYU will be 6-6 again in a year that sees no improvement for a team that is hungry for it.

  • jazzfan14 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:17 a.m.

    Well, as a Ute fan I thought it started out as a great game. I never thought I'd say this, but I did start to feel sorry for BYU. Utah is definitely the better team, we aren't the better team by 44 points. BYU's got talent and if they can just re-group and get their crap together this week, they should still be able to put a good season together. For their sake I hope it doesn't take as long as last season. Each of BYU's victories from here on out only help Utah.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:14 a.m.

    Congratulations Utes!

    81 - 20 against the two mid-majors on our schedule. The remaining schedule is against nine BCS teams. Hopefully the Utes are ready now they have played their two tune-up games.

    Good luck to BYU the rest of the way. Hopefully you will have an opportunity to play in a BCS league sometime soon.

    Go Utes!!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:14 a.m.

    Utah's football program is simply much better than BYU's. This isn't just Bronco not being able to prepare his players this more a HUGE talent difference between the two programs. Good athletes don't fumble the ball away 7 times. Good athletes don't get lost on the field down after down. Utah is bigger, faster and much more athletic so sorry Cougar fans I think you just watched the beginning of the end of BYU football. I suspect a record this year of 4-7 and next year about the same or worse. How many losing records will it take for the school and the church to simply cut the embarrassment and cancel the program?? BYU is REALLY BAD in every facet of the game. Yikes!! Really pathetic. Oh and a new coach isn't going to make any difference. YOu are going to get somebody to come in and recruit a bunch of un-athletic returned missionaries and expect them to compete against top notch D-1 athletes. So enjoy the firesides Cougar fans because that is about all you will have to look forward to this year ...and the foreseeable future.

  • barefeet KENT, WA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:12 a.m.

    Didn't waste my time watching this game! Knew the result after last week's BYU performance. Saw the lowlights and noticed the Y coach covered his "Band of Brothers" shirt. Was that done after the first half or before the game started?
    I'm getting to believe that coach Anae was let go not because of his coaching style but of some other getting Doman a job! Doman has no idea of what his doing and let me state this again...Heaps Sucks! I feel very sorry for ESPN showing BYU football! BYU will be 1-10 in 2011!

  • Peter Coyotl West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:11 a.m.

    Did Jimmer leave early too?

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:09 a.m.

    I'm not going to pile on or take cheap shots, because I (as a Ute fan) was as shocked as anyone by this. I saw two good, but not great teams going into a game that I thought would go down to the end. I'm amazed by the outcome, because I honestly thought that BYU was hitting harder than Utah in the first half.
    I have to say that I am so proud of the Ute players. Jordan Wynn spoke of the toughness of the BYU front line and no player chest pounded or said that the win was a result of living right, or claimed to "hate" BYU. This shows signs of the rivalry developing a sense of perspective.
    I can't tell you how proud I am to be a Ute fan. No matter what the rest of the season brings, I'll remember this one.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    Sophomore BYU QBs:

    Wilson - Won the WAC, Ranked 16
    McMahon - Won the WAC
    Detmer - Won the WAC, Ranked 18
    Heaps - 3 TD's in 3 games, Rank

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    MILMMT...........Do you need a hug?

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:05 a.m.

    Jake...Thank you for a fun night. From the first play to the last, it was a pleasure.

    Good night Ducky. It'll be OK. lol

    Go Utes!

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:05 a.m.

    @ Tom in CA | 2:50 p.m. Sept. 16, 2011
    Vallejo, CA

    "With the Cougar D coming up big, I see a goose egg being laid.

    BYU 31
    utah 0."

    Hey Tom, who was it that laid an egg?

    Tom, are you out there? Tom? Must be with the Duckhunter.

  • HuskyBark Seattle, WA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:04 a.m.


    Yup, Washington did not win a single game that year (even lost to BYU in Seattle). Washington has had a rough decade, my point was/is that Utah has a great shot at the PAC 12 title if they play like they did tonight and like they did at USC.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:04 a.m.

    BYU Fans - there is nothing to disagree about on this one. The best team is the U of U. They showed it on the field and they got better as the night went on. BYU handed the Utes too many great opportunities and the Utes took advantage of each. Yes, BYU is not quite ready for the independent "prime time" that they have so often talked about. I said it here many times that at this time, independence was not the way to go. Yes, they now have exposer but it is not the type they wanted. Other than very loyal BYU fans, no one else will be watching this train wreck. Congratulations to Utah for a fine game.

    Sept. 18, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    Hey all you Coug fans...don't worry...the Church is still true...Go Utes!

    We'll let you all know how the Rose Bowl feels in January!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    @ MILMMT
    Really? The fun is just beginning? After a 54 to 10 loss you should be a little more humble. Utah just showed BYU where the real athletes are coming to play football. BYU's lineman can't play more than the first half without looking completely exhausted. Utah's athletic (Not big and slow like BYU's) lineman made your lineman look like they couldn't walk 100 yards without taking a break.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    Did anyone see how many underclassmen made huge plays for Utah? The Utes are going to be good for a long time.

  • SUNNY ALL DAY Saint George, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    Take heart Cougars.

    San Jose State, New Mexico State, Idaho State, Oregon State and oh yeah, Idaho State will help you forget about what happened tonight.

    Heaps 500 yd. passing games are just around the corner.

    Oh, and about that upcoming schedule helping you forget about tonight.

    No chance.

    Utah 54 tds 10.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2011 12:01 a.m.

    BYU may never be ranked ever again; ironically----BYU may win more games this year than Utah. I'm a BYU fan and always will be----Utah has speed and size and plays like animals; Utah is better at football, BYU is better at other things------------ yet Utah could possibly lose every single game in October.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:59 p.m.


  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:56 p.m.

    vj fehoko is still running too... albeit very slowly, he's still running

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    byu looked worse than they really are.

    utah looks better than they really are. congrats by the way. you kicked our butts tonight.

    without the ridiculous turnovers this game isn't a blowout.

    i still think these teams are pretty similar:

    both will lose more games this season.

    both will go to third rate bowl games that no none really cares about.

    time for some rugby world cup to forget this game ever happened.

  • Craig Frantz Spokane, WA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    ha ha ha ha ha
    ha ha ha ha
    ha ha ha

    Score Board!

  • David R. SLC, Utah
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:53 p.m.

    As a Y fan, it is now time to openly admit that this independence is a joke, we had zero to play for after the Texas loss, and now after this Ute loss and no conference title to play for there is zero reasons to buy a ticket to watch a BYU team that has no offense and gives up against there rival. We were absolutely humiliated tonight on national tv, and now we have nothing but cupcakes on the schedule. We need a conference ASAP! And a QB. And an OC.

  • Mormonstudent Rexburg,, ID
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:52 p.m.

    I say BYU should drop Heaps and put Jimmer in as starting QB!

  • UtahEyeDr SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    The interesting thing to watch now is how BYU responds. Last year after TCU took my Utes to the woodshed they really stuggled the next couple of games. I hope they can bounce back and represent our state well. GO Utes!

  • sneekee23 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    To all Ute Fans: From here on out lets not say a word about this game.
    This is what BCS teams do to non BCS teams. We have more important games than this for the rest of the year, and every opponent we play from here on out is better than the opponent we played tonight.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:48 p.m.

    Wow, Wynn stood tall and took the hits and you have to give him credit, while Jake looked scared and had a lot of happy feet.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:47 p.m.

    The speed of the Pac 12 will eat Utah up.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    The game is being replayed on kbyu. Should be fun to watch.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    Utah, way to keep steady all 4 quarters. Great win, but we need to Play better. This byu team is immature and overconfident. We can't expect teams in the pac to be that way.

    Lets keep this rivalry going in the years to come. Its Nice to lay a beat down on the cougs every once in a while.

    Go UTES!!

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    I could score three times myself in this game. Utah earned points = 21.

  • SoCalsurfer DANA POINT, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    Sure, the turnovers ruined BYU tonight. But the more serious problems are dumb penalties, especially 2 really really dumb pass interference calls on third and long that led to key Ute scores. Also, no offensive coordinator can adequately call a decent game from ground level on the sidelines. No way! Cant see what is really happening out there. Why we throw little short outs on third and long, everytime in 2011, is beyond me. So predictable in the first 3 games. When the BYU offense understands where the first down marker is, and directs meaningful plays towards it, then the offense will work just fine. Hey BYU, It is OK to throw verticle instead of horizontal, and, it is very smart to use those tight ends more too. And pass to set up the run! Finally Bronco, you have got to want to put opponents away. I know you love those close low scoring games but finally getting to the BCS will require a different gametime attitude towards winning. Put your opponent away!

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Tom in CA. Wow BYU is pretty bad. Better hope your team can going forward beat the dregs of the football world (some question about that after tonights beat down) or BYU might not even go to a bottom tier bowl game. Go Utes

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    I just wonder if Bronco is convinced this year that the better team won..... (that was the worst comment for bulletin board material he could have made in regards to losing 17-16, not smart)

    For all those Provo fans who are saying wait until next year, not sure if you made note of the player profiles but Utah has very few seniors, Utes are very very young.

    Congrats to the Aggies for becoming the 2nd best team in the state without even playing a game.

  • forreal people SLC, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    nice. "You're the better team at this point in time."
    BYU fans, classsic, delusional.

    how pathetic, your all ready trying to set yourself up for the claim later that byu is better? this point and time?

    I guess your one of the fans that thinks the 6 loss terrible unranked byu team that got beat at RES last year was better than the 10 win RANKED utah team that showed so much mercy tonight by not running the score.

    Can you all beleive that utah did not kick the field goal to make it 57-10? I can't believe utah putting in all their 4th stringers and still coming up with turnovers. Utah should have ran the score.

    the win had nothing to do with turnovers. BYU simply is terrible. 11 yards rushing vs 280 HAHAHAHA. Wow!

    So much vindication for me arguing with delusional byu fans on this stupid website all preseason and season so far. I was right all along. BYU cannot compete with utah this year.

    BYU will claim later after beeting the wors teams (and having the worst SOS) that they've "Improved." just bad teams!!! Ole miss is terrible. BYU is worse!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Going independent to increase exposure and to get money is just plain vanity. And now the chickens have come home to roost. Pride cometh before the fall.

    All is vanity.

  • Brian Utley Freedom, IN
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:42 p.m.

    Wow! Where were BYU's daunting linemen? Totally stifled. Where is a real offensive coordinator? Wow!

  • GoshJarcia SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:42 p.m.

    Utah is more deserving of a seat in the Pac 12 than a Washington team that didn't win a single game in 2008! Not one is impressed with Huskies except for maybe Jim Rome

  • Golfhack20 West Jordan, Ut
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:41 p.m.

    Troy Hinds, Zach Lindsay you guys sure you made the right decision? I hope you reconsider and come play with the big boys. Yes BYU is on ESPN but now after this they will be moving to the late slot on ESPN 3.... Good game Utah!!! White, Langi, are still running!!!

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:41 p.m.

    Heaps isn't tha answer. Sick of listening to his non performing mouth

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:41 p.m.

    From a Ute fan to BYU fans:
    Bronco is a good coach and a great guy. Do not call for his resignation like you did to Anae. Bronco has led you to 4? 10+ win seasons. His record at this point in his career is quite a bit better than Lavells was after 7 seasons. The only difference is now Utah who is much improved from the 80's is beating you consistently. If BYU fires Bronco their football program will be in the dumps for 5-10 years at the minimum.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:40 p.m.

    Any team who can't win and win big with 7 turnovers on their side should be embarrassed. All Utah did tonight was not embarass themselves. Oh, by the way Utes the REAL score of the USC game was 23 - 14 (in case you did not hear).

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:40 p.m.

    Utah State is licking its chops. For that matter, even Idaho State is gaining confidence in their chances. Go Big Blue.

  • Carson Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:39 p.m.

    Golly does anyone know where Ducky and his little buddy Sammyg are tonight?

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    All those months of smack talk about everything from Heaos to Transfers to your D to get flatlined by your rival at home. EPIC!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    I actually felt sorry for the ESPN analysts doing their best as apologists for BYU. ESPN has got to be seriously rethinking their relationship with BYU. This is so, so, embarrassing on so many levels.

    Well, at least the coaches don't have to stay late and are able to get home for dinner every night. I wouldn't want them to spend one minute more than they need to away from home. After all football is not a priority on the BYU football team. That was clearly evident tonight.

    I've never seen such a beat-down in one half.

  • BYUte06 Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    Too bad for the dismal showing Cougs, but keep your chins up. Heaps is still young, and has a great arm, he just needs to settle down and the offensive needs to find its rhythm. You have some great, long wide outs, and a stoud O line as always. Your D is as good as I think I've ever seen, but they looked exhausted in the second half. That could be a result of conditioning, inability to rotate players in and out, or lost morale (which, given the circumstances, is understandable). But, the talent is definitely there.

    I hope for your sakes the rest of the season picks up, you have a far better pedigree and tradition than your team showed tonight. It might be time for some changes among the coaching ranks..but that's for the administration to decide. I personally thought it was a bad decision to push out Anae, given his track record of success.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    Chow and Whigingham are both BYU throwbacks. It's won't be long before Utah gets their butts kicked all over the PAC 12. Money does not win football games, teams do. The fun is just beginning.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    Great game Utah. Domination in all aspects.

  • byufootballrocks Herndon, VA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    I'm ashamed at some of the comments on this board tonight.

    This is not the time to pile on the BYU team or the coaches. Show some class.

    The only thing possible in a situation like this is to regroup, and rebuild the confidence, and go forward, without looking back.

    Kyle Whittingham has done this with the Utes a number of times over the pass few years, and we can too.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:35 p.m.

    I have never been so embarrassed.....not just with sports, about anything. That is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen in my life

    just want to point out a few things

    1- The players gave up. Anytime, there is a little opposition, they give up

    2- I would give anything to see mendenhall get fired up and get in someones face for giving up/fumbling in the red zone/etc. he is too mellow to be head coach. Should stick with DC

    3-I simply dont understand how you can be down by 23 at the start of the 4th quarter and come out and only run 5-and-out routes, then huddle up after every play. As Herm Edwards would say YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. We havent figured that out yet

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:35 p.m.

    Unbelievable! What a slaughter!!! I don't know if many fans from either fanbase saw this coming. If you read the local papers and listened to the local sports talk shows, all you heard all week was how good Heaps is, how BYU's defense is equal to the Utes, and that BYU would win. Ah, it's nice to see my rivals have to eat a little humble pie.

    Utah's future is looking great. For all the criticism that Wynn has had to take, remember, he is a 3-year starter and has had a lot of good games already (the bowl victory over Cal; he played every bit as good as Hall in the rivalry game 2 years ago as well; etc.). He's led the Utes to two 10-win seasons, and tonight he looked like his old pre-surgery self.

    Great game, Utes!!!

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    There were about ten late plays in a row to John White IV. It was obvious the ball was going to him. And he churned up some ridiculous yards during that stretch. He had something like 9 yards on 9 carries for the first half. So, BYU contained him well then. What a difference a half can make.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:33 p.m.


    too funny for words.

  • Dart Thrower Ogden, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    Hang in there Cougs. Lots of spirit and athleticism carried you through the first half, but the turnovers were killers. We need two (or three, USU?) good teams in the Beehive State, so this is a Ute Fan that wishes you well as an Independent or with another conference.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    Congratulations Utah!

    BYU fans should have recognized how weak this team was when they eked out a 1 point win at Mssissippi, BYU has been the most arrogant program in the country for some time. The problem is that there are enough patsies on the schedule to let it continue.

    It is time to disband BYU sports and afot the BYU -I model.

  • rightascension Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:31 p.m.

    BYU vs UofU. Speechless. George Will said football combines the two worst aspects of American life -- mindless violence and committee meetings. And in this game add gusts of gravity and butterfingers. Last week Branco wore a t-shirt that read "Band of Brothers." Next week , he should wear one that reads, "I'm with stupid."

    I bet the BYU team members won't find dates for the next two weeks. Even the ones who are married.

  • CaliforniaCougar Lake Elsinore, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    Wow, Utah is pretty good. Too bad we won't see them on ESPN again until the Las Vegas Bowl.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    Thank you, BYU, for your ESPN contract. Seeing this in HD was awesome!

    I hope BYU regroups from this dismantling. They are better than what they showed tonight.

    Good luck to both teams throughout the remainder of the season.

  • B Logan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    Well, sometimes it takes a forest fire to help the forest survive and grow. This season is effectively over for BYU. No more big games. Just use the rest of the season to practice for the real deal next year.

    I still don't know if Utah is that good. Don't get me wrong, they knew exactly what to do when someone handed them touchdown after touchdown. 8 turnovers??? Wow.

  • vermillion Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    So, did the Cougs get Jimmered?

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:29 p.m.

    Ok seriously, the rivalry seemed more friendly this year, which I enjoyed. I sincerely wish BYU luck the rest of the year. A good Y season helps us more than a bad one. Here's hoping the exposure works out better for you in the coming weeks than it did tonight. Beat Utah State.

    Go football in the state of Utah, and

    GO UTES!

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:28 p.m.

    What a rout! All those over zealous BYU fans can just eat your words. This is so epic!

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:27 p.m.

    Looks like Heaps is afraid to get hit. Man UP.

  • U Student Y Fan Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:26 p.m.

    Serious question to all BYU fans: does anyone disagree that Doman should be unemployed tomorrow morning?

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:26 p.m.

    Re: chicagoborn

    Yes the better team won by 44 tonight.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    So life goes - you win some you lose some - you beat the daylights out of some and sometime you get the daylights beaten out of you -

    But I still love my Cougars and I plan on a 10 game winning streak. Utah out played us tonight and that will be hard to live with but we say good game and move on.

    How I hope I never see that again.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    This is not working. Let's make Bronco either the DC or HC. He can't do both. Let's make Doman either the OC or the QBC. He can't do both.

    Heaps looked like he was making strides at the end of last season, but I think he's worse now than he was at the beginning of last year.

    And it's not like we don't have good QBs on the bench. Let's take a lesson from Texas. Gilbert should have been NFL bound, but he couldn't get it done. Mack tried McCoy and magic. Let's give Nelson, Lark or Munns a try. They can't do worse than Heaps, can they?

  • texlds Dallas, TX
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    Heaps is shovel ready.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    I thought BYU would win this game, but even in a loss I thought it would be close. I never saw this coming. Maybe Lance Reynolds should become OC and James Lark starting. Doman is getting out coached every week and Heaps is not playing well. There should be a QB battle IMO, Heaps is not progressing and needs to be pushed for his job. Defense DID quit, tired of saving a bad offenses butt all the time.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    Well now I feel dumb for predicting 20-17 BYU, and totally amused and thrilled at the actual result.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    Where's Ducky?

    Check this out....byU's punter had 6 punts for 276 yards. The best stat of the night.

    John White for Heisman! Ok maybe not since it was in garbage time. The byU offense had given away 20 points by that point. Thanks Jakey for a fun night.

    I'm sorry, I just can't sleep.

    Go Utes!

  • HuskyBark Seattle, WA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    Last week, I was not to impressed with Utah. But after watching them tonight, I am debating about cancling my trip to Salt Lake for the Oct. 1st game.

    I questioned the choice of bringing Utah into the conference, but now... my question has been answered!!!

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    OK, I've never said this before in my life, but I actually felt sorry for the Cougars tonight.

    Did I just say that?

    Congratulations to the Utes . . . what a game!

  • NevadaUTE Carson City, NV
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    54-10 in Provo?!! Montana State gave the Utes a better game in Salt Lake! Maybe the kitties from BYU should have gone "indenpendent" in FCS....thats I-AA for those of you in Provo. Go UTES!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    The best I can say at this time while I'm tucked in this fetal position is...

    it hurts, it was not expected, and oh... congrats to the Utes.

    You're the better team at this point in time.

    Cougars... pathetic, just plain pathetic

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    I don't know, it looked like Riley Nelson's knee was down on that fumble at the end of the 4th quarter. I guess we'll never really know who the better team was.

  • U Student Y Fan Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:20 p.m.

    BYU is a joke. Doman should be fired tomorrow. Mendenhall should probably resign.

    I've been to all but three home games since 1995, and I'm done with this joke of a football team and especially coaching staff.

    Heaps may be the most overrated QB of all time.

    Hope Apo, Van Noy and the other few legit athletes on the team do what's in their best interest and transfer to a real program.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:20 p.m.

    Let's just be grateful that Utah is playing a PAC 12 schedule while BYU plays a WAC schedule.

    If not, it would get worse and worse.

    Sept. 17, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    So any more questions why the U went to the PAC 12 and BYU didn't?

  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    Hey Ducky,

    Hold on, stop the presses, this just in: Ducky burns his genuine BYU Heaps jersey and moves permanently from Utah County to live on an Indian reservation in North Dakota! We're gonna miss you Ducky.

    Meanwhile ESPN is firing everyone associated with the BYU contract and meeting with lawyers to figure out damage control.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    The only thing better than beating the cougs twice in a year is doing it twice in 10 months =)

    Go UTES!!

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:16 p.m.

    First of all- THE BETTER TEAM WON- and I hope the Utes have a stellar season.

    Second- I feel a little lied to as a fan. I thought we (BYU) had a good team. Now it looks like our super powered front 7 are only good for 30 minutes- and there's no suitable backups. If those guys are too tired to play in the second half, they're being conditioned improperly. Our stellar receiving core is getting shut out in man coverage. Our three headed monster (RBs) are more like a 3 headed kitten.

    Third-Our secondary is terrible- even I know that you shouldn't let receivers run free behind our defenders.

    Fourth- Tanner Mangum can't get here soon enough!

  • George Bronx, NY
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:15 p.m.

    there maybe a reason BYU had to go independent.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    "Oh man, the Utes are in for a rude awakening when they get to Provo on September 17th! Mark my words." -Every coug fan on this board who has been repeating some variation of this, maybe just keep your foot in your mouth for awhile.

    It's a great time to be a UTE!!!!

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    Can someone stop John White?

    Police is chasing him on I-15...but he kept running like he ran through BYU D.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    Impressive win, Utes. I expected a Ute win, but with a much closer score.

    Good day for all the state schools in Utah, with Weber State beating Sacramento State 49-17, Southern Utah over WAC-bound Texas-San Antonio 45-22, Dixie State over Simon Fraser 42-7, and Snow over Pima 35-14.

    As promised, the season quarterback rating for the starting QBs of the seven Utah schools:

    Keeton (USU): 154.3
    Sorensen (SUU): 140.0
    Hoke (WSU): 138.7
    Eastman (Snow): 137.7
    Stevenson (DSC): 128.4
    Wynn (Utah): 120.1
    Heaps (BYU): 106.7

  • chicagoborn WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    Hold on everybody. Are we sure the better team won this time?

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    The sad thing is, BYU will still go to a bowl game this year with that schedule.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    Why has the D news not reported the final score? hmmmm

    Because the Utes just put the biggest beat down in the rivalry in the last 30 year.

    I'm sure the cougs will look much better against Idaho St and company. Maybe not though. Jake Heaps looks\ed scared. I see USU coming into to Provo and winning.

    Go Utes!

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    This next week, we will find out what BYU this team is made of. They have a short week and go up against UCF. I wish them the best, and I hope this game hurts so they don't lose another game.

    Congrats Utes. Tonight, your team played outstanding ball! Win the PAC!

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:05 p.m.

    Utah was a 6 point underdog. Vegas hates Utah.

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    I am a Cougar fan, but after this smack down from Utah, there better not be any more BYU fan posts on Utah articles. We have no right to talk any smack the rest of this season.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    I am waiting for the Duckhunter's professional anaylsis of the game.



  • Roscoe West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:02 p.m.

    Low scoring? What game is the author watching?

  • AKRay Wasilla, AK
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:01 p.m.

    CHOKE! yeah Mildred in Fillmore, we do look like a little league team. Great game Utes! Hope you have a great rest of the season. I'll be cheering for you in Pac 12 play. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of crying for my Cougs for the rest of the season. Except for TCU, the rest of the season looks like a little league schedule.

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    Riley hopefully your brother will make the right decision and go to to Utah State.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    Thankfully Utah has put in their 2's and 3's. This is brutal.

  • utefan56 st george, utah
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    Congrats UTES!....for giving byu a total beatdown!

  • EOD Ogden, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    I want to hear all of the excuses from the Ute haters. Since you think Utah is bad then BYU is Horrible with a capital H. Wynn can hardly throw the ball with any zip and Heaps is way worse. I actually feel sorry for the Y. Better get ready for UCF next Friday. Utes offense and defense played some good ball in the second half. Go Utes!!!!! HaHaHa I can't believe the score. Ha Ha Ha!!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    BYU fans will say "Bronco is a great coach. Look at his record."

    Things Bronco is a good at:

    - defensive coordinator.

    - "setting the tone" and getting effort

    Things he is horrible at:

    - Oversight of assistants. "Run out the clock and kick a field goal" at last year's Ute game? That is a HC call, not a coordinator call.

    - Game planning for a TEAM, vs game planning a defense. Florida State, faster, smaller, you've got a huge line, a huge back that is your best ever. Pound the ball and keep your defense off the field.

    - OC calls a handoff instead of kneeling on it to run out the half against UCLA years back. The HC isn't paying attention? 2-4 minutes left in a half a HC should be paying attention to managing the clock. Texas did last week, and the 3 points at the end of the half won the game for them.

    - Your RB's season after season, even with a change in RB coaches, don't protect the ball on the goal line? (Unga one-handed it on the goal line all the time and fumbled.) HC needs to see that and hold the COACH responsible.

  • sfo Madison, WI
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:56 p.m.

    Wow. 31 points off turnovers alone. I thought BYU stressed discipline and Utah was the wild boys. Blow out.

  • SanDiegoUte SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:55 p.m.

    A heartfelt good luck pledge from a non LDS California Ute fan...good luck next week Cougars.

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    i'm trying to stay positive about heaps. but its getting harder to like him. talks too much. doesn't back it up on the field. doesn't bother chasing his interceptions. panics when they blitz. doesn't make adjustments. three more years of this?

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    So can we all agree that wearing the same t-shirt with a catchy phrase does not make for motivation?

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    RILEY NELSON should have been in the game 3 quarters ago.
    Riley is 10x the Quarterback that Heaps is.

    Hey Riley you should have stuck with USU man.

    Heaps OVERRATED.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:52 p.m.

    I'm in total shock. I thought that Heaps was better than Wynn and that our running backs and offensive line were much better than Utah's. It looks like Utah is playing a little league team.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:50 p.m.

    At least, byu is consistent. They...

    1) only played for a half against the U
    2) still haven't scored more than 18 pts in a game

    Sept. 17, 2011 10:49 p.m.

    Well what will be the excuse this time Bronco? If you think last week was bad with the boosters; you ain't seen nothin yet. Down by 37 and still 7:30 left in the game. I would definitely say that Utah is a much better team and maybe playing a good team who is also a rivalry is a bad idea so early in the season when your coaching ability is still catching up with a real, non-excuse-making coach like Whittingham. Heaps = Hype. Glad Riley got put in.

  • DD JayMario American Fork, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:49 p.m.

    Well, this is embarrassing. Can't BYU get Weber State on the schedule instead of Utah?

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:49 p.m.

    BYU wanted exposure on ESPN. Guess what? I wonder if we will see this replayed on KBYU?

    I wonder if Heaps will have his press guy call another press conference to announce he will be turning pro?

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:48 p.m.

    SanDiegoUte | 10:29 p.m. Sept. 17, 2011
    Has a member of BYU's coaching staff coughed up the ball lately? Give credit where credit is due. Ute D is solid!


    First, Ute D is solid. Not doubt. BUT:

    A fumbled shotgun snap isn't the defense, it is the offense. Failing to fall on it isn't the defense, it is the offense. Not knowing to fall on it, that is coaching.

    Failing to fall on a fumbled kickoff, that is coaching and execution. Gunners being at the 5, that is defense, and failure to block by special teams.

    Only throwing one pass down field (that went for a TD, mind you), that is play calling. Having an offense that CONSISTENTLY snaps the ball with a couple seconds on the clock. That is coaching and reflects two things: Slow play calling, and pace of play in practice.

    Wanting to be on the sidelines "because you have young players" is over-estimating "rah rah" and underestimating setting players up to succeed through good play calling. Has Chow never had a young QB? Every 2-3 years of his entire career -- that has been spent in the booth.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:48 p.m.

    Wow, what a train wreck.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:46 p.m.

    This is the first BYU game that I have ever seen the BYU defense quit, and they did it with 12 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

    Give Utah's defensive coaches credit, the Ute defense killed the Cougar's offense. The BYU players are as good as Utah's. The failure is on the BYU offensive coaches' preparation of the team. They failed the whole team.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    @ MiP | 10:32 p.m. Sept. 17, 2011

    I would have said a slaughter. At this point, its all semantics.

  • WinSum Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:43 p.m.

    Been a long time since we have seen such a total melt-down of coaches, players, fans and admiinistrators.....the shell-shocked looks and deer-in-the-headlights stares were amazing. No bragging rights this decade for those obnoxious &/or humble fans who live and die with a win or way I can go to church this I actually like both teams.

    Spin this however you want to, but the hype from some players & coaches seems to be lost in reality. Maybe actions really do speak louder than words.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    Utah 40
    BYU 10

    "This game's in the refrigerator! The door's closed, the lights are out, the eggs are cooling, the butter's getting hard, and the Jell-O is jiggling...."

  • Bluecat82 Minneapolis, MN
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:36 p.m.

    Pathetic. Absolutely and utterly pathetic.

    The Ute Trolls are absolutely correct...BYU football is nothing but a jumped up mid-major wannabe with delusions of grandeur...and that's all it will ever be.

    If the brethren decided at their meeting next week to drop the program, I wouldn't shed any tears.

    I am done with BYU football, and I am gone.

  • CaptainL PROVO, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    Bad is bad, that is all you can say. Utah is a much better team.

  • TandJ LaVerkin, Utah
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:33 p.m.

    Well, we now know two things. 1. Just how bad BYU is, and 2. Just how hopeless Heaps is. BYU better throw him in a heap. Does remind me however of my years as a marching band member for Utah back in the early 60's, and it appears that the old fighting slogan for BYU back then will be applicable to this year. That old refrain coming from Prove was and I guess will be again, "WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!"

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:32 p.m.

    The game has come down to execution.

    The coaches coach. The players execute.

    And Utah has looked very good. Suddenly, competing for the PAC-12 south isn't such a stretch.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    To all 4 and 5 star athletes looking at BYU. Don't!

    BYU just became Utah State!

  • SanDiegoUte SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    Has a member of BYU's coaching staff coughed up the ball lately? Give credit where credit is due. Ute D is solid!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:25 p.m.

    majmajor | 10:19 p.m. Sept. 17, 2011

    The Utah/BYU game is probably the best test as to the quality of both teams coaches. BYU coaches are failing. Doman better start doing his job, because he will not last the year if this keeps up.

    A test of Bronco as a head coach will be whether Doman is in press box next game.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    Heaps is the most over rated player in Y history.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:20 p.m.

    Pac 12 whoopin boys and girls!!!

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:19 p.m.

    At the end of the 3rd, the BYU offense is choking and doesn't want the ball. The skill players (specifically Heaps) is showing no toughness nor confidence. Two fumbles and overthrowing wide open short-route throws into the flat.

    The Utah/BYU game is probably the best test as to the quality of both teams coaches. BYU coaches are failing. Doman better start doing his job, because he will not last the year if this keeps up. They have got rid of two outstanding offensive coaches (Chow, and Anae) for doing a better job.

    Sept. 17, 2011 10:17 p.m.

    KamUte: Agree completely. UTE D are studs, and Chow making an average offense look good. Inexperience shows with Y coaching.

  • SanDiegoUte SAN DIEGO, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:17 p.m.

    Why so hard on your coaching staff Cougars? Bronco is a good coach. Whit is just great.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:17 p.m.

    People are now leaving the stadium.

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:17 p.m.

    let me guess, we didn't execute. can't wait to hear what heaps and co have to say after this.

    only september and we have so little to play for now. huge loss to our rival and no real big names on our schedule.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:15 p.m.

    sneekee23, I totally agree. Out coached, and out played. Hey, 62. Can't wait until you get to see yourself looking for someone to block while Heaps is getting sacked by a guy who went through your gap.

    Look, I've seen teams come back from 3 TD's in the fourth -- Utah against BYU in 1978 -- but I'm not hopeful.

  • DD JayMario American Fork, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    The word "coordinator" implies some sort of coordination. Is there any coordination going on here at all? I guess the boys are all wearing similar uniforms. Does that count as "coordination?"

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    I guess Utah was just more righteous this year. Utah has won the last 4 out of 5 times. When does it stop being a "rivalry" anymore?

    I for one will now officially announce that the "rivalry" is now offically over.

  • satch Highland, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    Wow. Now why did we get rid of our last offensive coordinator? This may be the worst single offensive game BYU has ever played.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    Wow, this game is over. BYU fans, please do not give up hope. There is always next year.

    Next year Heap and Doman will be much better. Bronco will be coach of the year in 2012. Mark it down.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    Utah 30
    BYU 10

    with about 8:32 min in 3rd.

    Kyle, please (x3)....I am begging you to call an onside kick on the kick-off.

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    Will the MWC take BYU back? At least on The MTN network, we didn't have to be embarrassed nationally on a weekly basis. What pathetic offense & special teams. Really sad coaching. This season is complete failure. Nothing positive on the horizon. Beginning of the end in major college sports for BYU.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    cougs are awful. Bronco is not a coach, he's a den mother.
    Terrible football team.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:03 p.m.

    BYU is giving up. Look tired. Chow vs. (no name Doman). Great coaching vs. bad coaching.

  • DD JayMario American Fork, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 10:00 p.m.

    BYU is not that good.

  • sneekee23 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    Get over yourselves it's called getting out coached and out played. It's called speed and athletes over no speed and not quite atheletic enough to keep up.
    Get used to it!!!!

  • chubbuckidahocougfan Chubbuck, Idaho
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    Hey guys itleast we play the ISU bengals this year. We should defeat them and get the offense rolling by the time we play that Big Sky power team. This is just pathetic. Maybe BYU is out of Utah's league in College football. I definately know that BYU is out of Utah's league when it comes to coaching. Offense so predictable and no running game. One dimensional. Defense starting to get exposed by a very average Pac 12 team. I'm ready for a change in the head coach. He just hasn't been able to get it done.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    How does one miss a PAT? Did you see Whit yell at the kicker? That could come back to haunt us. Keep it up Utah!

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    Utah 30
    BYU 10

    with about 8:32 min in 3rd.

    Kyle, please (x3)....I am begging you to call an onside kick on the kick-off.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    Do not pick up a fumbled kick return. Fall on it. Horrible coaching.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    Eason is horrible.

    Bronco will say "We didn't execute." Well, coach, whose fault is that?

    A snap goes into the end zone. What should a player be taught? Fall on it and take a safety, don't give up a touchdown.

    Player fumbles on the 5, holding the ball in one arm, low. What should he be taught? High and tight, or two hands near the end zone.

    30 yard punt return? Didn't BYU get killed in special teams last year?

  • satch Highland, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    As a BYU fan, BYU is getting out coached big time! Xeladave is right. No pass rush at all. Now Wynn has rhythm. BYU Offense stinks.

  • chubbuckidahocougfan Chubbuck, Idaho
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    BYU should be totally embarassed for the way they are playing today. Total lack of prepration from the coaching staff. It all starts at the top and that's Mendenhall and Doman. Didn't have the team ready to play today and they got dominated by a very average Pac 12 team.

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    Thanks Bronco- who else could make Winn look like a great QB- no pass rush and hope we can cover all day long- hmmm I bet even I could still look good at QB given that model

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 9:02 p.m.

    Hope my Utes have enough players to finish the game. 14-10 Utah.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Sept. 17, 2011 8:04 p.m.

    Seems like BYU is driving pretty well on Utah. They just can't hold on to the ball. And on the one drive they were finally able to do so, Heaps is unable to keep it going once they passed the 30. Can't keep settling for field goals and/or dropping the football if they expect to win the game.

  • satch Highland, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 7:58 p.m.

    Not good news for BYU- the Crowton offense is back.

  • SouthernUtahUte Hurricane, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 7:49 p.m.

    Nice no call on the helmet to helmet in the end zone.

    Nice wife, Jake! We'll take the seven points.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    Should have been a penalty for leaving his feet on BYU.