Utah Utes, BYU football: Big Game lacks national hype

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  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    @ snack pac
    you keep sayin theyre bringin up old stuff right? look at you byu fans keep bringin up an old nat. title. whats the last important game byu has even won? seems to me utah fans win this argument of bcs games cause theyve atleast been in 2 in the last 10 yrs unlike byu. funny thing is im not even a utah fan i just cant stand to keep listening to you arrogant byu fans.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 11:11 p.m.


    Radio is only one easily measurable indicator of the size of each fan base.

    Try to minimize the numbers all you want to, but an average of 75,000 Utah fans followed the Utes on the "Home of the Utes", while an average of 184,000 BYU fans followed the Cougars on the "Home of the Cougars, every football game last season.

    That's more than a 2-1 measurable difference in fans.

    Just because you can't accept the numbers, doesn't mean they're not accurate.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    @forreal people

    I suppose if you believe it then it isn't a lie. It just isn't real.

    The rest of us know the truth.


  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 5:04 p.m.

    Any game BYU plays is on the national radar.

  • UtahBronco Lehi, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Re: DontMUSSwUtah @ 4:09pm

    Among your "Everyone else" are Boise State fans, more here than you might think.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    How many games between two unranked teams get a lot of national attention?
    There may be a few, but why should this game get a lot of attention?
    The 2008 game got attention, and deserved so. 11-0 Utah vs 10-1 BYU.

    No one nationally cares about 1-1 Utah vs 1-1 BYU.

    Sept. 14, 2011 4:09 p.m.


    You're seriously basing this estimation on the amount of people who listen to the radio? Last i checked, most people liked to watch their sports on these things called television sets. I won't pretend that Utah has more fans than BYU, but a 2:1 in-state ratio is ridiculous.

    From a rational standpoint(and unofficial because i'm unable to access any sort of statistic at the moment), its probably more like 49% of the state are BYU fans (about 70%[Being generous]of the church, which makes up about 70% [again being generous] of the state). Utah fans make up about 38% of the states population (Getting 20% of the population of the church, which is 14% of the total population, and 80% of everyone else, which is about 24%). The other 13ish% are the other Utah schools and people who don't care.

    For those who don't care to read:
    BYU- 49%
    Utah- 38%
    Everyone else- 13%
    Yeah, not quite 2:1.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 14, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Neither team is ranked, they're both 1-1, and Utah hasn't beaten an FBS opponent; so why should this year's game be getting national hype?

    September is way too early to play this game. It needs a full season's buildup to do the intensity of the game between fans and teams justice.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 14, 2011 2:40 p.m.


    "the split in Utah is at least 2 to 1 in favor of BYU"

    Now you're really hitting below the belt bringing actual, verifiable statistics into the discussion.

    BYU season average - 184,000 - during a 7-6 season
    Utah season average - 75,000 - during a 10-3 season

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    "but let me ask you about real football fans who understand the game"

    You're seriously comparing the football "understanding" of young, wet-behind-the-ears 20-somethings who didn't know that football existed 8 years ago (pre-2003) to fans who've been immersed in great football for decades?

    Get over yourself.

    #1 > #2 no matter how you spin it

    Win a national award of any kind -- national championship, Heisman Trophy, national individual award, national college football hall of fame -- then you can talk about your football "understanding".

    The fact that you keep beating the BCS drum demostrates just how little you "understand".

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    Chris B | 8:57 a.m. Sept. 14, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    It's just another practice for an AQ team against a non-AQ team.

    How ya doing Chris B?

    Has your AQ team beat any other AQ teams since becoming and AQ team?

    Oh, sorry, a 9 pt. loss.

    But finally, your AQ team will get a shot at playing on ESPN this year. Even you have got to love that national exposure. Maybe your team can get up for that?

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    BYU 34
    Utah 14

    btw, wwookie, the split in Utah is at least 2 to 1 in favor of BYU

    BYU Football on KSL Radio outperformed Utah Football on ESPN 700 by a better than two-to-one margin in most key demographics (2010 season, game-by-game analysis).

    Team/Station - Season Average - Season High - Best Five Average

    BYU on KSL radio - 184,000 - 229,200 (v. Utah on 11/27/10) - 212,700
    Utah on ESPN 700 - 75,000 - 153,100 (v. TCU on 11/6/10) - 97,200

    Other media would show the same proportions, but it's much harder to measure since television ratings don't distinguish between BYU and Utah fans, and we no longer have KSL and KUTV simulcasting of BYU-Utah games.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Inside Utah, the split is definitely not 2 to 1 as the self-proclaimed Mr. SportsAuthority believes. Keep on living in your bubble.

    Outside the state you are most definitely correct. but let me ask you about real football fans who understand the game - that is most decidely in favor of the Utes, the BCS busters.

    And some fans say they don't care about this game (why even comment then?), but this game is big. I get to call my parents and let them know that for another year, they won't dare bring up the fact I am wearing Utah gear when I come see them. Work colleagues will become open game for some fun at their (and their team's) expense.

    Utah 24
    BYU 17

    GO UTES!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Sept. 14, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    forreal people

    You're really clueless if you think that BYU/Utah divide is Utah Valley/Salt Lake Valley

    half the college football fans in Salt Lake Valley are BYU fans

    fan in Orem is close, the overall state is split about

    BYU(60%) Utah(30%) Utah State(6%) Weber State(3%) Southern Utah(1%)

    outside Utah, the Utes are a very distant 2nd to BYU

    65% of BYU's students are from outside Utah

    only 10% of Utah's students are from outside Utah

    plus there are hundreds of thousands of BYU fans outside Utah who never attended BYU, but very few Utah fans outside Utah who didn't attend Utah

    BYU's recent trip to Mississippi is an indication of that:

    At the Friday night fireside, the stake center was standing room only; every nook and cranny of the building where a chair could be placed was filled with BYU fans from the area.

    It's doubtful if that had been Friday night pep rally for Utah, that the Utes would have had even a handful of locals at the pep rally.

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    forreal people: take a chill pill. I think the point was there would be a lot of BYU fans around the world watching the game, since it won't be on KJZZ. Speaking of providing evidence: "The fanship in Utah is split between USU UTAH and BYU" - You're right, the split is 5%, 30% and 65%. Please provide evidence to the contrary. If it was an even split between schools, someone other than KJZZ would have picked up your other games. The PAC is going to come to realize in coming years that they miscalculated when they thought they would pick up the SLC market by adding the u.

  • forreal people SLC, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    oh, and i forgot to mention the fact that at least half of the LDS inside the state of utah are NOT BYU fans.

    SL valley has 1.3 million people and utah county has how many?

    The fanship in Utah is split between USU UTAH and BYU.

  • forreal people SLC, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    There are not "millions of byu fans accross the county and outside the U.S." tuning in. Who out side the US watches college football, especially the Y? Please tell me you have some ratings evidence of this "outside the US claim" and your not just making it up.

    with 6 mill in the US, and 1/2 of them children under the age of 12 bringing it to 3 mill, and half of that living in Utah bringing it to 1.5 mill, and undesputebly some of those are not die-hard football fans - so lets be generous and say 3/4 of them are (including 100% of the woman)- bringing it to a grand total of 1 mill viewers out side the state of Utah.

    1 million.

    Does anyone have a problem with my math or my completely incorrect assumption that 3/4 of all men and woman over the age of 12 will tune in for every football game that their favorate team plays?

    Why keep up the baisless claim of all the national viewer ship? It's actually impossible if you doe the math.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:40 a.m.

    Every Y game lacks national hype.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    ESPN Prime-time thanks to BYU's contract. A lot of people will be watching this to wind down their Saturday football fix.
    Maybe not a lot of Ute fans outside Utah but millions of BYU fans across the country and outside the U.S.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Game of the year for Utah fans after that embarrassing beat down to a crippled, unranked Trojan squad in Utah's PAC 12 debut eliminated the Utes from the conference race.

    Just another BCS opponent for BYU as the Cougars start building momentum for a great 2011 finish.

    BYU 34
    Utah 14

    Utah fans really do care about this game, they're just pretending indifference so it doesn't hurt so bad when they lose.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 14, 2011 9:40 a.m.


    "...no one on the east coast, but very few die hard U fans cared about last weeks USC-Utah game. It was played after most there had turned off the TV and gone to bed."

    The game ended just after midnight here on the East coast. On a Saturday night. People here on the East coast don't go to bed as early as Provoans. We don't believe when the clock strikes midnight, breaking into early Sunday morning, that our vehicles will turn into pumpkins.

    And for the record, I watched the game over at one of our local sports grills with a group of my "die hard U" alumni, and the Utah-USC game was the one being showed on the big screen. Even though it was on the "Vs." channel.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    It's just another practice for an AQ team against a non-AQ team.

    Nothing to care about here, unless you're the non-AQ team and it makes you feel like one of the big-boys for a few hours.

    utah 31
    byu 17

    And we don't even care about this game anymore.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 7:38 a.m.

    No hype because it means nada. BYU has nothing to gain but pride and Utah has nothing to gain by winning or losing. Two programs going different directions.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    It may not have the hype, but it certainly will have more exposure as the game is televised nationally on ESPN. When the U says national, it must mean it is not being contacted by the LA media. Because no one on the east coast, but very few die hard U fans cared about last weeks USC-Utah game. It was played after most there had turned off the TV and gone to bed.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    Well, duh, the teams didn't beat their last opponents, so are not meeting undefeated. That was needed to create the national hype. Duh.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 13, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    I've never been fond of kickers acting as holders. Why not prep Jon Hays as the holder. This gives you an added dimension. USC would have been caught completely off guard by Hays gettting the snap, standing up and lobbing the ball to a streaking tight end for a TD....Just a thought.

    The U/Y game lacks national attention because of the teams being 1-1. Had they both won last week, there would be a good chance they would both be ranked. That would generate attention.