Pac-12's Larry Scott against expanding Pac-12

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  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    There's absolutely no chance of a zipper alignment with 16 teams. If you guaranteed that rivals in opposite divisions would play every year, that would only leave one cross-over game per year, unless you ditch OOC games completely.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    I never said that Okla State was the front runner, top dog or deciding ever what T Boone says is what OK State will do...he has that much influence...aka money.

    I only mentioned him to illustrate that the unhappiness in the Big XII minus three runs deep and wide. So you agree with what I wrote. The critical factor he is equality of monies...and Texas's greed makes that difficult...this disparity of dollars fuels the discontent. I will believe the Big XII minus three is salvageable when I read about Texas agreeing to sharing it's spoils.

    That is not very likely...and neither is the likelihood the Big XII minus 3 will survive despite all the praying and fasting in Provo.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 10, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    I have to laugh at all the frantic and emotional cougar fans who think Utah would be afraid to play Texas and/or Oklahoma every year. WE were the winningest team vs. BCS schools amid all the non-AQs. TCU was #2. And for the record, they weren't afraid of the Longhorns or Sooners either.

    Personally, I'm on the fence about growing to 16 teams. On the one hand, I'd LOVE to play Texas and/or Oklahoma every year. Just as I'd LOVE to play EVERY team currently in the Pac-12 South annually. But, on the other hand, a Pac-12 Utah would play in better host cities. Seriously...Norman, Stillwater, and Lubbock are holes in the ground, and we'd most likely end up in the Eastern division of the Pac-16.

    What would sell me on a Pac-16 conference would be the possibility of a zipper alignment. If Utah would be placed in a division with one school each from Washington, Oregon, Northern California, Southern California, Arizona, Texas, and Oklahoma, plus guarantee our rivalry game each year vs. Colorado, I'd be all in!

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 10, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Larry Scott also said that expansion "was inevitable" and that the PAC-12 would follow suit if other conferences expanded first but he wouldn't lead the way. My guess is that Texas is not going to the PAC-12, but that Oklahoma is. Texas wants to be a big fish in a small pond. Oklahoma wants to get away from Texas. Will there be a BIG 12 lead by Texas and smaller schools? That is joke going around right now that the BIG 12 will become Texas and the Seven Dwarfs.

  • bucko Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    That is good news to hear from the commish. The new Pac12 is just right the way it is now.

  • uteowl Sunnyvale, CA
    Sept. 10, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    Holy Cow Sammyg. Naval Vet says something positive and without TDS rancor and you start throwing rocks. We all know that a certain school that must not be named would love to be in the same situation as its brother up north, i.e. belonging to a BSC conference. Its said so, it just wants to make sure that the conference is stable.

    This message from Scott (along with Baylor's threat) helps to put a lid on all the expansion talk for now and gives the Big XII a change to think things through rationally so that stability remains. THAT is (or should be) great news for the Y (oops I mentioned it by name) since almost every scenario I've been reading mentions that school as the only remaining viable option to get the conference back to 10 once aTm leaves.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 8:37 a.m.


    "Scott does not have to seek...there are already a couple or more folks knocking on his door. How sweet it is to be a UTE!"

    The LAST thing you want if you're a Ute fan is for Oklahoma and Texas to join the PAC.

    PAC 16 West
    Wash St
    Ore St

    PAC 16 East
    Tx Tech
    Okl St
    Ariz St

    With two perennial Top 10 teams -- Texas and Oklahoma -- in their division, even in a very good year, the Utes would be lucky to finish higher than 3rd in their division, which means, no hope for ever playing in a Rose Bowl or any other BCS bowl, and absolutely no chance of playing in a BCS championship game.


    there's no guarantee that bringing four more teams into the PAC will generate anymore revenue per team.

    PAC 16 with Texas and Oklahoma equal much stronger conference, and severely reduced opportunities for success for Utah.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 8:25 a.m.


    T Boone Pickens is irrelevant. Oklahoma State is a lapdog that will do whatever Oklahoma decides.

    With Larry Scott backing off on his PAC 16 dream (at the insistent of the PAC 12 presidents/chancellors), Oklahoma doesn't have any viable options for leaving the Big 12.

    The Big 12 is already discussing equal revenue sharing for Tier One television rights (ESPN/ABC), which would smooth a lot of ruffled feathers and make it much more likely for Oklahoma to recommit to staying in the Big 12.

    BYU won't accept an invitation to the Big 12 unless there's a binding commitment by Oklahoma and Texas to remain in the conference for at least the next 3 to 5 years.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 7:51 a.m.

    Being content and not actively seeking new members to the conference is one thing...various Oklahoma sources are reporting that Oklahoma is putting out feelers to various conferences....T Boone Pickens is on record saying that the biggest problem in the current Big Xii minus three is that not all conference members share equally in TV Longhorn TV...and that if Oklahoma left they would leave too.

    Scott does not have to seek...there are already a couple or more folks knocking on his door. How sweet it is to be a UTE!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 6:54 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    "If the Pac-12 doesn't expand, then there will be no invitations to any Oklahoma OR Texas schools. This is good news for cougar fans."

    It's even better news for the Utes. Adding TX and OK to the Pac 10.2 would just seal the bottom dweller status for the Utes. Right now the have a slim chance for the Vegas Bowl.

  • sports fan Provo, UT
    Sept. 10, 2011 12:39 a.m.

    Sorry Wayne, that ain't the reason.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 10, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    If the Pac-12 doesn't expand, then there will be no invitations to any Oklahoma OR Texas schools. This is good news for cougar fans. With nowhere else to go, Oklahoma stays in the Big XII. With Oklahoma in the Big XII, Baylor drops its baseless suit against Texas A&M and the SEC. With the dropped suit, A&M moves east. The Big XII's TV package will require it to add another team, so the Y finally gets an invitation to a relevant conference.

    How long that conference lasts is anyone's guess, but for the 2012 season, the cougars may get to back into the Aggies vacated spot.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 10, 2011 12:05 a.m.

    Sounds good. Wait and see.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    I'm against expansion too, especially if it includes texas, they already single handedly destroyed one conference by believing and acting as tho they are superior to every other school and should get a bigger piece just because they are texas.

    The big 12 is disintegrating because they catered to texas at the expense of every other school and Scott would be a fool to do the same.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    He probably fears that with 16, they would feel pressure to bring in the Cougars.