Obama's speech stirs, but some say a bit too much

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 10, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    @ one vote:

    "Their desire to do anything for political power,"

    I thought it was BO who came up with the stimulus and health care?

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    Obama's stimulus didn't work. His promise that it would keep unemployment under 8% failed miserably. And now he wants more stimulus! Somehow he thinks that if you keep doing the wrong thing over and over it will become the right thing.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    He was on point and painted the tea party Republicans in the corner. Their desire to do anything for political power, including trashing the economy, will put off the independent voters. The President is way ahead of the tea party evangelical candidate who will further alienate independents over Social Security. The gold bubble will burst and the economy will improve and another landslide will take place.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    @ Hutterite:

    What positives did you gain from this speech? Every time the president wants money, he brings up the infrastructure and education card.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 9, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    I thought I was listening to a snake oil salesman. Is this how far we have slipped as a nation? This guy has got to go!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 6:08 p.m.

    At least DesNews was able to find a story that shines a negative light on a positive speech.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Sept. 9, 2011 5:15 p.m.

    Is this Obama's only idea? Been there, done that, didn't work.

  • Hawkyo SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    DNews monitors, seriously do your job. there is no point in having these forums if you aren't going to post our comments in a timely manner! It's been 35 minutes since I posted, and it just barely came through now. USPS is more prompt!

  • Hawkyo SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    This is not a R vs D thing! Politicians with their dirty hands in our pockets have done this to all of us! We put them there, so we must assume part of the blame, but this is not solved by gov. Reagan had it right, "Gov. is the problem." Yes he spent a lot but he was fighting the cold war and building America. The economy was on the rise during this time. Obama by his own admission is all about redistributing wealth. Taking from some to give to others who haven't earned it. That is not freedom, my friends, that is tyranny. Our forefathers fought a Revolution to stop that kind of nonsense. The entitlement idea is bogus. You don't deserve any extra money that I make if I earned it myself. Man liberals and progressives are so annoying!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 9, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Obama speech in 2008:

    "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents and added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back $30,000 for every man, woman and child. Thats irresponsible. Its unpatriotic."

    By the end of his first term, BO has promised to cut the deficit in half and increase the number of Americans working. In sixteen months, the troops in the middle east will be coming home.

    We've been scammed by an irresponsible and unpatriotic president.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    You want job growth in the US? Drastically reduce corporate and business taxes. Eliminate and simplify regulations. Make this country a welcome place for manufacturing and industry.

    I agree with those who have recommended CNG. It would create jobs, reduce dependence on foreign energy, and strengthen America.

    American businesses that have gone overseas have done so because labor, regulations, and taxation makes it less profitable. But we can change all of that.

    But President Obama will never do any of this. It is not a part of his political philosophy. We need a new president. The new president will have to be a Republican...unless the Democrats will put forward one of their own to challenge Obama.

    Personally, I would still take most Republicans currently campaigning over any Democrat.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 2:36 p.m.


    Like I said...

    When the RePublicans are back in power, everything is all better.


    The Obama Blame Game will be over 11/2012 unless the RePublican Party self-destructs...

    RePublicans will be forced to "actually govern" instead of whinning about President Obama.

    Who will the RePublican Party blame then?

    Obstructionist Democrats?

    RePublicans whine about President Bush getting "blamed".

    RePublicans won't be hypocrites by continuing to blame President Obama after 11/2012?

    Will they?


    "...Not the best approach if you want them to work with you...".

    The Democratic Party, as "weak-kneed" and spineless as they have become, should return full measure and then some, to the RePublican Party, for the way the RePublican Party has (clearly within the "rules") "worked" the majority since 2008.

    What goes around should come around.

    However,... we are talking about a political party that seems to have lost its...courage? (cleaned up for DN readers)

    So, maybe what goes around won't come around.


    I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

    I will probably never agree with with what your political position seems to be, however, wouldn't life be boring if we always had to agree with each other?

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    We are not the same economy, people as when Reagan was President. We must address what is needed now, and to exactly follow Reaganomics would not work again. I don't see how anyone could advise anything less than the simple plan to not spend more than we take in, balance the budget, cut back in our desires for more and better, and find life that life does not revolve about getting more and better, but in being more, and better, in service, and in excellence.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 1:36 p.m.

    All it was his way of getting back on T.V. as this is what this President loves to do. He should have gone into acting instead of becoming a President. Anyway I felt that it was his beginning of his Campaign. I just really wished that he would see just how much so many are hurting. The problem is he is doing exactly what he wants to do and was sent to do.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    Re: WHAT NOW? | 11:56 a.m. Sept. 9, 2011

    The Republicans certainly can't hurt the economy any worse than Obama has done. I assume he was serious when he put his foot in his mouth and said the GOP could come along for the ride but would have to sit in back. Not the best approach if you want them to work with you.

  • Clarissa Layton, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    I agree with the Rock on CNG. I don't know why we are not pursuing this. We would not need to be so dependent on foreign oil. There will never be a FAIR tax, unfortunately. I'm for the nuclear plants. We definitely should not be adding tax burdens and we also should fix the Obama Health Care Act. There are a few things in it that are good, but most of it is awful.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Sept. 9, 2011 12:00 p.m.

    Obama only demonstrated that he is out of ideas.

    America needs wealth creation and wealth can only be created in the private sector. Government consumes wealth and makes things worse.

    This depression (and that is what it is) was caused by government (Fanny Mae's and Freddy Mac's vile lending policies). Government must get out of the way so we can end this depression.

    1. Start drilling for oil in ANWR, Montana and off shore (in places that make sense). Let's stop buying oil from people who want to kill us and that are not as environmentally responsible as we are.
    2. Build additional refineries.
    3. Build nuclear power plants (government load guarantees would be required here).
    4. Eliminate the income tax and replace it with the FAIR tax.
    5. Make every car sold in America duel fuel (capable of running on gasoline and natural gas (CNG)). This would create manufacturing jobs now.
    6. Offer incentives for gas station operators to add CNG pumps.
    7. Drastically reduce all regulations. Eliminate all unnecessary regulations.

    The above items, along with several others would provide both immediate jobs and long term sustained growth.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    "...The economy needs to be allowed to settle. We've got to hit rock bottom before we can begin the slow climb up...".

    So, let's do nothing...

    until unemployment is @ 10, 11, 12, 13, .... 20% (double those numbers for the effective rate of unemployment).

    until homes are worth -0-.

    until medical insurance premiums are unaffordable for everyone.

    until the RePublican Party is back in power?

    That will be rock bottom.

    Voters, just wait until 11/2012. We will be at "rock bottom". At that point, the RePublican Party will fix everything.

    How long will that take?

    First, we have to BEGIN the long slow climb up...

    No, when will everything be all better?

    What do you mean? When the RePublicans are back in power, everything is all better.

  • LovemesomeCougars LAYTON, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Let's spend another half trillion dollars of money we will borrow from China, our children and their children only weeks after the "financial crisis."

    Let's do it!

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Sept. 9, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    The government can't spend us out of the recession. The bailouts and stimulus not only failed to spur development, they got us into deeper trouble.

    If Obama's only solution is to spend more money (that we don't have) he needs to go ahead and resign.

    Government doesn't create jobs, it actually stifles them. Every tax dollar that is taken out of American pockets is a dollar that could have been spent buying goods and services, the sales of which are the driving force of our economy.

    The economy needs to be allowed to settle. We've got to hit rock bottom before we can begin the slow climb up. Government stimulus only keeps the economy at an unsustainable level. Things have got to get worse before they get better. We've got 20 years of irresponsible fiscal policy to address, and it all has to be accounted for before recovery can begin.