Utah football: Pac-12 notebook: Kyle Whittingham expects super conferences

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  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 8, 2011 6:37 a.m.


    I'm afraid the horse is already out of the barn with Colorado and Nebraska having left, and the success of the threatened lawsuits at this point is speculative at best. The threat of lawsuits won't stop Oklahoma and Texas, if those schools determine they are better off in a superconference. Those schools will decide the future of the Big 12 and if they leave BYU really has no place to go. In any event, it is merely rumor that BYU would replace A&M. Of course anything is possible, but it is more likely that if Oklahoma and Texas stay put a deal will be worked out to keep A&M in the Big 12.

    This isn't a case of BYU hating; it's simply a fact that Utah is very well positioned now, while BYU must scramble to pull something together. Whether or not Utah would be competitive in a 16 team superconference is beside the point. Truth is your statement sounds a bit like Utah-hating.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 6:56 p.m.

    Texas A&M can't move to the SEC without a commitment from Oklahoma to stay in the Big 12, which would stabilize the Big 12 and open the door for BYU to replace Texas A&M.

    As much as a few BYU-hating Utah fans would like to see the Cougars shut out of a four 16-team super conference alignment, a PAC 16 with Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State in a PAC 16 Western division with Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah would kill Utah's chances of ever playing in the Rose Bowl or any other BCS bowl.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    Of course Whitt's right. Consolidation and merger to increase market share and clout are a given in the business world, and college football is all about the money. Utah's position looks better and better all the time,and BYU better hope it can squeeze in somewhere, now that it's Big 12 hopes are about to go up in smoke. Independence is the last thing you want now.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    1) Chip Kelly is a child and a sore losser
    2) The Pac 12 will be the Pac 16
    3) Not all hope is lost for BYU in regards to inclusion at college football's highest level. The super conferences once formed will eventually collapse under its own weight and the selfishness of teams like Texas. It will swing back to leagues that are more regionally based. The bad news is it will take 10 - 15 years.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 12:44 p.m.


    I agree. I hope Coach Witt is wrong. I think a playoff would actually reduce the need and desire for super conferences, but Witt is right about one thing it's all about the money. My hope is that the PAC 12 has proven you can get the big money deals without getting too big. I guess we'll see.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    Wasn't the late 1990s version of the WAC a superconference? 16 teams if memory is correct. It fell apart as teams aplit for the MWC. The schools with more money wanted to be separate from the others.

    Once the superconferences are formed, will there be continual reshuffling until there are 3 power conferences and 1 conference of misfits - teams with small markets like Wyoming and Utah State?

    It will be interesting to see. And the layout of college football will probably never settle down once we see superconferences. History shows us that things are constantly changing regarding college football.

    And what about programs without college football? Will they just be left out entirely? Where will ND's football program fit in with the superconferences?

  • MR Draper, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    Assuming Baylor doesn't sue Texas A&M, looks like we are ready for another round of conference realignment. Superconferences are great for those in the conference, but I believe terrible for college football as a whole.