The real question is in week 3, will utah be overconfident after knocking off
Sc, and end up in a close game with a team that just came off of a major
beatdown from the longhorns who are looking to right their ship?
As long as the BYU fans continue to disrespect our QB and team it will just make
it that much more fun on September 17th when we surprise them.If
Wynn can have a good game at USC, win or lose, he'll be ready for BYU and so
will the rest of the team. That's whay I'm hoping for.As for all
the Heisman banter, Wynn was never on the Heisman radar and if Jake Heaps was,
he dropped off after Saturday's game. I saw nothing Saturday to indicate that
Jake Heaps is going to catapult to Jimmer Fredette stardom any time soon. He
obviously has some work to do.
"Wynn, Whittingham agree QB needs more confidence"No
problem.The Trojans are famous for helping faltering quarterbacks
regain their confidence, especially in their own back yard.USC's
linebackers are especially helpful in that regard.
Wynn had a very Jay Feidler-esque like performance against MT State. Yet, its not like Heaps was channeling Dan Marino. Go Dolphins!!
@ sammyg | 10:33 p.m. Sept. 6, 2011 "And after the trouncing
from USC, what will the Utes come to Provo with?"USC did not
look all that sharp against Minnesota.I'd like to see (no offense to
Teddy Roosevelt) the U not say a word & bring a forest to Provo.
@ UBOUND" . . . no Heisman west of the Mississippi"Must have missed the Georgia game. Just sayin'...
A little reality from a Cougar fan. Wynn did what he needed to do to win the
game. He wasn't the one making the play calls from the booth. Why expend more
than necessary when playing a team like Montana State? For me, the jury is
still out on Wynn. I won't make a decision until Saturday.In response to
Mormon Ute, check Heaps stats for the second half. Not bad by any standard.
I find it curious that Chow compares Wynn to Detmer, and many are posting
comparing him to Heaps.Football is contextual, meaning you cannot
compare Wynn to Detmer or Heaps.JW needs to go out and be the best
Jordan Wynn that he can be for the situations that he is in.I for
one, was not impressed with 101 yards, but that was what he was dealt in the
context of the game. He could have looked better, sure, but he could have looked
worse.But for Chow to call him "Detmer", and Whittingham
to berate his passing game, how can the kid help but be confused?Utah's coaching staff needs to get on the same page and be consistent with the
kid.I personally was worried about how they held him to a throw
count this fall, and I'm not impressed with the results yet.I hope
Wynn gets on track by Saturday.It could get ugly, but at least there
won't be that many people watching the game on TV.
DontMUSSwUtah Wynn's last 6 games:104/183, 1152 yds,
56.8%, 6.30 yds/cmp, 7 TDs, 5 ints, 116.87 ratingUSC is going to
stuff the run and dare Wynn to beat them with the pass. Good luck with that.
DontMUSSwUtahPulling together a few stats that work in your
favor?Here's a reality check:If Wynn averages 101
yards/game, 4.39 yards/completion, and 6.37 yards/attempt for the remainder of
the season, the Utes will be lucky to win 4 games. Wynn's longest pass of the
game was only 8 yards, and his two TD passes were weak 7- and 5-yard floaters.
I find it curious that there is no viable option to Wynn. Even if one didn't
want to bench him, players get hurt and seems like the Utes are extra vulnerable
at this position.
@utah_man "You really think that Old Miss is a better team then
Montana State? Montana state ended the year ranked 5th, and Old Miss wasn't even
ranked. Obvious."For starters, it's Ole Miss, not Old Miss.
And second, you don't seriously think that Montana St is better than Ole Miss,
do you? Ole Miss' O line would wear down Montana State's D line by the end of
the first quarter.
Just the FAX,Wow, way to pull some stats to work in your favor. I
bet i know of another stat that Jake probably is pretty close to the top in:
Interceptions ran back for touchdowns. You see how i did that? Just took
something that a BYU player had a particularly tough time with in his first game
and used it to make him look really bad. In the end, nobody cares about your
"Fax". Go back to cougarboard or whatever it is.
Just the FAXYou're going to confuse Uteology with all of your facts;
it's best to just let him believe that passer rating trumps all other passing
Wynn = about 102nd at 101 yds/gm*100 has 106 yds/gmWynn
also ranks 100th in yds/cmp and 96th in yds/attbtwCompleting 1 of 2 passes for 5 yards equates to a 236 rating... a great
rating, but, putting things in perspective, it's probably not going to win you
very many games.
byronbca"To gain some perspective on Wynn's performance I found
a QB rating calculator and plugged in Wynn's numbers. Wynn's college QB rating
was 131 and his NFL QB rating would have been 104. Those are actually pretty
good numbers."To gain some perspective on Wynn's performance, I
checked the official NCAA stats and found that:Wynn wasn't even in
the Top 100* in passing yards per gameHeaps = 46th at 225 yds/gmKeeton = 53rd at 213 yds/gmWynn =
Did i hear correctly? Heaps for a Heisman? He's a pretty good QB, but no way is
he even considered for the Heisman. It was a joke right? Ther will be no Heisman
west of the Mississippi this year. Just take a look at the SEC. Nuff said!
itsajelly,I read that Wynn is growing his hair to donate to locks of love
in honor of his grandma, who recently died of cancer. They use the hair to make
wigs for cancer victims.So, cut him some slack.This week we should
get a better idea of what all three quarterbacks (Wynn, Heaps, Keaton) are made
I've watched Jordan Wynn enough over the years to know that he has the talent to
be great at Utah. He's had some ups and downs, but right now his main problems
are psychological. I fully expect Jordan to bounce back this weekend
against USC. He may not pass for 300 yards, but as long as he doesn't make big
mistakes and completes enough passes to keep the Trojan defense honest, the Utes
Didn't the Utes rush for almost 200 hundred yards? The Defense looked as fast
and physical as advertized. The kicking and special teams situation looks far
better than anticipated. There were a lot of positives to build on and yes there
are things to work on. With the exception of about 5 elite teams everybody in
the country has a ton to work on and half those teams are 0-1 right now.
Uhh...I'm a coug but Utah's defense is not suspect. I think we'll get a better
look at them this week. Utah 24 USC 17
Tom in CA,What does the BYU/Texas game have to do with this article?
There's only one reason I want utah to get the W this Saturday - so they are
undefeated against BYU on the 17th. BYU 31Texas 17 (BYU's
defense will do their job)
confidence will come with a new hair cut. Gotta shave the mullet. Something
short and sassy. That breeds confidence.
The DesNews will be able to publish this same headline for the next 11 weeks.
wynn needs an arm more than confidence. shoulders injuries are hard to come back
TamaSamoa is spot on.Jordan had a big positive coming out of
Thursday's game - he didn't make any big mistakes.One INT can negate
60 or 70 yards of offense gained.Also, his couple deep passes were
right on target, but in good coverage. The difference being a matter of inches
between a completion and a deflection.Jordan should be confident,
there was nothing to be upset about. Now he just needs to throw more and stop
throwing off the back foot.GO UTES!!!
As a BYU fan, I would take a QB who throws for only 101 yrds, two TDs and no
INTs with a WIN any day over a gun slinger who throws two INTs...with a LOSS.
Let's not pass judgement against Wynn (or Heaps for that matter). It's only the
first game is the season. Now if you see a trend through the next couple of
games, then it's time to worry....but don't hang a guy after just one game. I've always been impressed with the Utes' defense. I think they will be up for
the task on Saturday. Good luck! Beat USC, and tell them Kaveinga says hi. :)
Guys, let's stop with the subjective posing and look at the facts. According to
ESPN, Wynn's Ranking for the season so far is a respectable 130.8 whereas Heaps
has a 116.3. So I'd rather go with the QB that has a better ranking and didn't
need a last quarter comeback to win his game.As for the people saying
USC's gonna crush us cause of their better passing game, look at the MN game
again. Besides one or two plays, Barkley had to dish it out quickly on screens
and bubble passes, and that was against a team who was slow as hell in terms of
their D-line. Utah's gonna put much more pressure on him, and our LB's are gonna
chew Woods and the other receivers up if they try the same thing this weekend.
And though our corners/safeties are our relatively weaker links, our D-line
won't give Barkely the time to set up for a long pass,so he'll mostly be
throwing in the vicinity of Blechen/Walker, and Thursday's game showed us how
that goes.Just trying to bring a little more concrete of an argument to
the table. Cheers.
sammyg,Jake Heaps looked great on Saturday, didn't he?
"but the rest of their defensive is a little suspect"TJ,please justify this statement. you are one of the better BYU
fans on this site, but this comment is absurd.
Last week Jordan had 2 touchdowns. He earned one. Jordan should probably send
Blechen a fruit basket for gift wrapping the first one. Jordan Wynn
is going to cry like a little girl... on the bus ride to the Coliseum. If he's
not right in the head after a game against Montana St, Ute fans are about to see
an epic meltdown.
To gain some perspective on Wynn's performance I found a QB rating calculator
and plugged in Wynn's numbers. Wynn's college QB rating was 131 and his NFL QB
rating would have been 104. Those are actually pretty good numbers.I
agree that he has to throw the ball down field more and get his speedy receivers
involved in the passing game, but playing turnover free football and executing
well in the red zone shouldn't be underestimated.Utah doesn't need
Wynn to throw for 300 yards every game, he just needs to be solid and mistake
Wynn's mind was in the right place and he diddn't make many mistakes last week.
One of USC's strength is their DB's. Almost always that way. The U will have to
run successfully against the USC D-Line and backers in order to have a prayer.
Utah's defensive line should be able to hold their own against just about
anybody but the rest of their defensive is a little suspect. USC does not have
one of their best teams this year according to national "experts" and
are vulnerable. If Utah can make a major offensive improvement over last week,
they have a shot.
Good luck, Wynn and Utes!I look forward to a good game at USC and a
Sammy,You really think that Old Miss is a better team then Montana
State? Montana state ended the year ranked 5th, and Old Miss wasn't even
"He didn't play poorly on Thursday night," said Whittingham. "He
just didn't do the things we need him to do."ROTFLHad this been about BYU's quarterback and Bronco was doing the talking, we
would have read, "He didn't execute at an acceptable level." Football
coaches are marvelous human beings.
I just hope that he doesn't force his throws. It sounds like they are beating it
in him to "let it rip". He needs to be more productive, but if he
forces the ball and turns it over, it could be even worse than a mediocre
showing. I want to see him air it out more, but any more than 2 INT's and the
Utes are in big trouble.
Wynn may think of himself as a gunslinger, but his play, even before the injury
(physical and psychological) never matched that description.He
certainly didn't look right on Thursday, I just can't tell how much of it was
physical and how much was "in his head." At best, he played a
turnover-free game against a very good FCS team. Even still, throwing for only
100 yards when you put it in the air over twenty times isn't
confidence-inspiring, even if you're playing a superior opponent.Hopefully he can get his confidence back, because without it the Utes will
struggle in every remaining game this season.
It's a good thing sammy's team has nothing to worry about. Their performance
Saturday was absolutely stellar. I've got them beating Texas by 70. Heaps for
At least his touchdowns go in the right direction.
A 101 yds against a cupcake team is probably not enough of a confidence booster
for this coming week. What will Wynn do?And after the trouncing from
USC, what will the Utes come to Provo with?I can't wait for all of
this to go down. It's going to be fun.