BYU-Notre Dame disrespect: T. Boone Pickens has to know Provo

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    Sept. 9, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    Doesn't ring a bell. In which state is it?

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 8, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    Is there a way to invite the BYU team but not the BYU fans?
    BYU fans bring a unique ugliness to the game that the South and Midwest people don't need to put up with.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Sept. 7, 2011 11:59 p.m.

    mentioning byu and new york, paris in the same sentence. ???

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Sept. 7, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    I don't understand what everyone is so riled up about. After Oklahoma becomes part of the PAC 12(16), the Big 12 will either go the way of the ols SWC or reload with a bunch of mid-majors (C-USA, Sun Belt etc.) or independents that no one pays much attention to. It will either die or become as irrelevant as the Big East has become since reloading with half of C-USA a few years ago. TCU would be stupid to leave the Big East. They'll dominate and be guaranteed a BCS bowl on a regular basis. I too think the BCS is eventually doomed but, do you really think the big conferences will not find another way to dominate the landscape? I think T. Boone knows where Provo is, I just don't think he cares. Much like the rest of us.

  • snjacob NORMAN, OK
    Sept. 7, 2011 9:19 a.m.


  • snjacob NORMAN, OK
    Sept. 7, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    While I think he was joking by the comment, he never claimed people know where Stillwater is, just that they don't know where Provo is. And if these facts are the best reasons why people should, I think its understandable that they don't.

    He never claimed that OSU is better than BYU. He just claimed, as shown by recent years, BYU brings less to the table (in comparison to other possible schools).

    As for eskimo Joes comment-it ranks 2nd worldwide (behind Hard Rock) for collectable T-shirts, and is frequently named one of the best college bars in the country. You don't have to like it. No one asked quite frankly. But stats like speak for themselves (especially considering as was reported its located in a town half the size of Provo and there is only 1 location).

    Lastly, questioning his intelligence and comparing a man that has dedicated the later part of his life to improving the nation's economy and environment to a want to be sportswear designer is harsh.

    There's reasons no one is jumping at the bit for BYU to be in their conference. Maybe you could take this as a reality check.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Sept. 7, 2011 5:48 a.m.

    Wise Ol' T. Boone hit the nail on the head about BYU. Hahahahahahahha! Ya gotta love him!

  • Somecommonsenseplease LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 7, 2011 3:32 a.m.


    Just because one lives somewhere does not automatically make them a fan. What is ridiculous is your assumption that you know what you speak of. How do you know who I am a fan of and why do you get to determine what I read or do not read in the newspaper.

    Sept. 7, 2011 3:14 a.m.

    News flash: nobody outside the state of Utah cares where Provo is. If your most impressive attribute is that you are the resting place of the guy who invented the TV, chances are you're not exactly a landmark city.

    Wow these BYU fans sure have an inferiority complex!

  • Larry Lawton Wan Chai, Hong Kong
    Sept. 7, 2011 2:43 a.m.

    You had me 'til you started praising funeral potatoes.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    @ Where's Stockton ??? | 6:05 p.m. Sept. 6, 2011

    Do you have a crystal ball? If so, get some windex.

  • BYUdude North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    Love the article! Best thing i have read all day!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:05 p.m.


    Do you have an understanding of archeology and geology??? If the PAC goes to 16 teams and the likes of Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas Tech are part of the new additions...then Utah... after having just barely been adopted into the PAC itself will basically be proverbally buried under so much overburden of College Football Tradition and History which these teams alone will bring with them...who's going to even notice Utah after that. The Utes are already going to struggle to stay above water with USC, Oregon, Cal, Stanford and more than likely both Arizona Schools. The Utes are already looking at best annually occupying the 5th-6th-7th & 8th tier levels. Bring in those 3 and suddenly Utah's over the side of a cliff that it only just found itself on and now thier plummeting into the bottom of an abyss. A hundred years from now who's even going to realistically see them as a major part of the PAC???

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 6, 2011 5:59 p.m.

    Hey the guy is 83 years old, what do you expect? Lots of humor in this one Dick. Some just won't get it because their hatred of all things BYU stand in their way.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Sept. 6, 2011 5:24 p.m.

    Just to let you know Mr. Pickins...Stillwater isn't Norman, Oklahoma or in even more arduous terms it doesn't come close to ranking with Austin, Texas for that matter. Even A&M gets more notice than that liitle scrub of a school you scratched a sheepskin from.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    The fact that Dick Harmon even responded to this quote makes me laugh. Old T-Boone was just stating what the rest of college football believes, BYU is a slight curiosity and nothing more. BYU is great only in the Bubble and nowhere else.

    GO Utes!

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Sept. 6, 2011 3:55 p.m.

    Stillwater is like Logan, but smaller and flatter. Payne County is like Cache County, but smaller and flatter. Both best known for agriculture and being the seat of their respective state's landgrant college.

    USU needs its own benefactor on the Forbes 400 list.

    Put another way, Stillwater and Lehi have about the same population and area. Lehi and Eagle Mountain are rapidly closing on Payne County's population.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 3:08 p.m.

    I know where Provo is. I just wish I didn't.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Sept. 6, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    To Outsideview | 9:07 p.m. Sept. 5, 2011
    Federal Way, WA

    I understand what he means about Notre Dame being "damaged goods" because it has been a very long time since they finished in the top 15 or 20 let alone the top 10.

    I would be careful about making such a claim as it easily could bounce back on BYU. Notre Dame last finished in the AP top 10 in 2005. The last time BYU finished in the AP top 10 was in 1996. Since BYUs miracle season in 1984, Notre Dame has finished in the AP top 10 six times (including #1 in 1988their 11th National Championship); while BYU has done it once. Notre Dame has finished in the AP top 20 13 times since 1984; while BYU has done so 6 times.

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    Still Blue after all these years | 12:15 p.m. Sept. 6, 2011

    "The entire west coast knows that religion kept BYU out of the Pac10..."

    No, the entire West Coast knows that byu never entered the discussion. Why? Because the bar was too high for byu to even be considered a member of the now Pac-12.

    Looking forward to Sept 17.

  • Okieland Norman, Ok
    Sept. 6, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    T. Boone thinks he's the authority on all things OSU football. I've been to Stillwater. I was there yesterday actually. It is grasslands, hay bails, grain silos, fast food restaurants, trailer parks, throwback neighborhoods built in the 40's, and one rather large OSU campus that has a shiny new football stadium, (thanks to million-dollar-money-bags T. Boone) that will likely never bring home a national title. OSU will always have a fantastic program for Agriculture and Veterinary training (livestock, etc). But never will its football program won't magically become national-title worthy just because T.Boone bought them a pretty stadium. If T.Boone REALLY wanted to make a difference to Stillwater schools, and improve the standard of living there, he would redirect his multi-millions into ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, and HS EDUCATION! Not an OSU football stadium. That little "nowhere's land" community of Stillwater needs help from the bottom up.

  • Dr Rosenrosen Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 6, 2011 2:19 p.m.

    "Provo, Spain?"

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    to Pac12Proud: the University Presidents in the Pac10 are a bunch of bigots. The entire west coast knows that religion kept BYU out of the Pac10 and so, when the Big12/Pac10 merger fell apart last year and Colorado had already been invited, they had to accept Utah to even things out. see ya Sept 17.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Sept. 6, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    Picken's arrogant comments reminded me of the elitist stuff Barry Switzer said during the 2008 Sugar Bowl. Nice response Dick.

    OSU definitely hasn't cornered the market in football success, nor is Stillwater a destination city for 99.99% of folks.

    Maybe if the rest of us owned half the world like T-Boone, we would have license to say ridiculous things too.

  • sunsfrk Queen Creek, AZ
    Sept. 6, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    Good read Dick!

  • estreetshuffle Window Rock, AZ
    Sept. 6, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    I was told to resubmit my comments. It was the truth. Maybe the one who rejected my comment needs learn more about others from other parts of the country because it was only a tease what Mr Pickens said "that he doesn't know where Provo was". My comment was only a tease compared to what I read between BYU and Utah fans; now those are down right bad insults too each other and yous guys are LDS; comon don't be so hypocritical.

  • sdunn Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    Dick I thought it was great.

    payara Then Pickens should stick to what he knows and does and not worry about Football!

  • TamaSamoa Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 6, 2011 11:07 a.m.

    Great read Harmon...thanks for the laugh.

    Go Cougs!!

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    Sept. 6, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    If I am not mistaken, Mr. Pickens is also the wise guy who bought $2b worth of wind turbines and then decided that wind power was pretty ineffective, and so was trying to sell off the still-crated machinery 2nd hand....

    You forgot the Dec 1976 Tangerine Bowl where I watched Terry Miller bowl over the BYU defense en route to a 49-21 shellacking.

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    This is the first D Harmon article I've read since he referred to the Presidents and Chancellors of the Pac-10 schools as "bigots." I will never forget that article or the fact that the DN printed it.

    It's clear from the comments posted here by the byu faithful that conference affiliation is indeed more important to them than independence despite all the comments to the contrary the last 12 months. I hope the WCC is monitoring these comment boards.

    CoachWinWA | 10:28 p.m. Sept. 5, 2011 "What a turn of events that would be a year removed from the drama of BYU moving to the WCC and going indy. A year later, BYU is a leader in the BIG 12, with AQ status, inviting the best MTN West and Conf USA teams to join them on the BCS stage."

    That is exactly the thinking that has gotten Texas into the mess it's in.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    So Colorado was a great fit, but Utah is too far away? What has OK State done in football? Shall we compare top 25 finishes over the past 10, 20, 30 years? Clearly the guy is myopic...for heaven's sake, even ND which has been down for a while still has a program OK State would envy.

    Great reply, Mr. Harmon!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 6, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    @ CoachWinWA,

    The Big XII's BCS status is based on its membership's accomplishments, which go wherever those teams go. So, after the big boys leave, the Big XII no longer has BCS status. Therefore, adding mid-majors to leftover, unwanted BCS teams doesn't save that conference. It just becomes another non-BCS conference.

    Also, I doubt Boise State and BYU would add enough to such a convoluted conference to maintain BCS status for it.

    And, BYU's been there and done that with membership in a weak conference. It'd gain nothing by joining such. Exposure is the key, and BYU's getting that in spades as an independent.

    16-team superconferences might cause BYU some scheduling issues, then might not. Depends on exclusionary scheduling tactics by the super leagues, which could get shot down legally.

    Still lovin' independence, not likin' the Bix XII.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 9:47 a.m.


    Be consoled by the fact that the late John Denver knew his Intermountain geography. Opening a concert at the Y years ago he said, "It's great to be in Provo, gateway to Spanish Fork."

    Now that's respect!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    I've been to Stillwater and it is a very bleak place. Basically ugly with nothing to distinguish it from any other droll prairie town. They have this burger place there called Eskimo Joes that they are all proud of for some reason. Basically it is a glorified "Dairy Freeze" or "Polar Queen" type of place where they sell t-shirts and other souveniers. I actually still have a long sleeved t-shirt and a hat from the place that I bought just for the heck of it.

    In short it is really not anywhere anyone would ever want to live unless they didn't know any better and it is not worth visiting. I would hate it if BYU was making an every other year trip to that pit. Avoiding it is another great reason to remain independent. T. Boone can have it, no one else wants it.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    If Univ. of Oklahoma (with or without Texas) departs the Big 12, it doesn't matter what OSU does. The Big 12 becomes a mid-major conference. OSU has been leaching off of Oklahoma for years, and would revert to a I-AA (FCS) team without Oklahoma.

  • carver Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    Hey PAC16UTE. The longer you spoke the more we could see the real complex. Maybe Dick can write one this coming week on USC fans wondering how in the world Utah was allowed into the Pac 12.

  • noname12 BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 9:00 a.m.


    Don't make ridiculous comments! Come on, Dick is just being sarcastic and comical. The whole point of the article is to be funny, it's not like Dick is truly offended or even cares about what Pickens said.

    And seriously, you want to talk about inferiority complex? Why are you even reading the BYU articles? Seems like you care more about them than you do your own teams. That is what inferiority complex is...

    And speaking of comical... hearing a Utah State fan talking about how BYU doesn't have a spot at the big boys table. Please, use some common sense.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    Thought it was Daniel. Seem to be from the same era and vintage. Proves money is not intelligence.

    Thanks for the fun. Oklahoma is not always OK.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    BYU football is 2-0 against Oklahoma, but 0-2 against OSU.

    BYU is a good TV connection, and T Boone was just talkin' smack. He's rich enough, he's entitled to.

  • farley Provo, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    A correction: Mitt Romney was not student body president at BYU. That year it was Graig Wilcox. Mitt was, however, the valedictorian at the August, 1971, graduation.

  • brooks Park City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    Dick thanks for making me laugh. Good job!

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    "Where is Provo?" has been said many times. So, who cares what T-Boone was saying.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    "Certainly BYU does not get as much research money as its neighbor, the University of Utah, which rivals MIT, but BYU does create about half the companies with one-tenth the research funding."

    I doubt Utah rivals MIT in funding. It rivals it in number of companies spun off. What percentage of those companies are significant is another question.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 6, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    T-Bone Pickens is nothing more than a Phil Knight wanna be.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    I was wondering if anyone would pick up on the comments by Boone.

    I can relate to the Provo question, I didn't know where it was until I came to the state.

    I have to admit I'm confused by the "damaged merchandise" comment about Notre Dame. They haven't done very well over the last fifteen years, but people still watch the games in large numbers.

    By the way, my guess is that Texas will not come to the PAC-12, but Oklahoma might. Stay tuned.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:51 a.m.

    Amazingly dramatic and serious comments about a funny, well-written article! Lighten up, Utes and Aggies! Have a good laugh, at both Pickens and Harman!

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    Where's Stillwater? Isn't it a suburb of Norman?

  • hackbart53 Tulsa, OK
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    Cut Mr. Pickens some slack, he is just embarrassed about how bad OSU's new uniforms look and the fact that when people hear OSU they aren't thinking about a school in Oklahoma but one in Ohio. Most know where Provo, Utah is but I would be willing to wager that far fewer know where Stillwater, OK is. Mr. Pickens is a saint in Stillwater and deserves to be called such there and besides, it was kinda fun to hear him dissing ND and BYU in the same breath. Those 2 need to play each other far more often.

  • Somecommonsenseplease LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    In the here and now please, byu is a mid major with little on the resume since their Cotton bowl victory in the mid 90's. In the BCS era there is little to brag about. Bronco is bringing it back a bit but with solid victories against anyone notable? A 7-6 Oklahoma team? Not good enough. Ole Miss? Come on! Reality is that as the college football landscape settles byu will remain out in the cold. Yes they have a deal with espn but that hinges on how relevant and successful they are. It is articles and dialogue like this that show the insecurities that cougar fans have and it has become even more transparent since their rivals moved up to the PAC 12.

    Sorry but the truth is the college football world is evolving and the cougars do not have a seat at the big boys table. Your party of one is catered by espn but anyone in their right mind would trade that to play in an AQ conference.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Sept. 6, 2011 7:00 a.m.

    Oh, please. How many Mormons know all that stuff about Provo? How many BYU *graduates* know all that stuff about Provo?

  • Max Syracuse, NY
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:54 a.m.

    Multi-level Marketing was NOT borne in Provo. However, it can't be denied that there are several of those companies springing up there -- but it is certainly not something to be proud of. They merely boost Utah's reputation as the scam capital of the world. I wouldn't be bragging about that.

  • milhouse Atlanta, GA
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:46 a.m.

    I use Oklahoma State as an example when people malign BYU and suggest they should not be in an AQ conference, saying "BYU doesn't have the academic profile of BCS schools." I'm sorry, but BYU is a better university than Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Washington State, Texas Tech, Iowa State, and any school in the SEC not named Vanderbilt.

    BYU isn't Stanford or Michigan or Duke or Pitt or Texas or Notre Dame or Georgia Tech. But neither are most BCS schools.

  • payara OREM, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 6:16 a.m.

    Great article, Dick, laughed throughout.

    For those of you that demeanded T. Boone in your posts, we need to talk. T. Boone has dedicated his remaining years to promote natural gas as a way to get America off of foreign oil and here is why:

    Natural Gass comes out of the ground ready to be used in Cars, heavy industry and everything that currently runs on oil. No need to refine. It burns so clean that a person can breathe the emissions, very low on green house emissions. India and China now run their infrastructure and heavy industry on NG.

    Lastly, Natural Gas would cost about one third to run our cars vs oil, clean up the environment, our cars would run much longer and cleaner; T. Boone IS one of the smartest dudes in America, he just doesn't care about Provo but you should care about his message.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Sept. 6, 2011 5:58 a.m.

    TCU will not be invited to the Big 12. Texas does not need another recruiting challenge and UT and TCu have never got along. Plus, TCu goes 13-0 last year and couldn't sell out any of their games, except against BYU. Go figure. They have no alumni across the nation and have no fan base outside of their school.

    Not trying to be anti-TCU - they have a great football program and Paterson has a great thing going there, but I just can't see Texas going after TCU.

  • CoachWinWA POULSBO, WA
    Sept. 6, 2011 12:51 a.m.


    No current BCS conference is going to pick up Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas or Kansas State. With that said, those four teams are much better than New Mexico, Wyoming, etc. They will have no choice but to invite other teams to replace the teams that left. The BIG 12 has an AQ status. There are plenty of teams that can be invited to retain that status. It takes several years of underperforming to lose the status in the first place. TCU will not be going to the Big East if they are invited to go back to the Big 12. Boise will get invited solely to retain AQ status. The key is BYU running with the invite. The big picture here is essentially everything that BYU wants, and nothing it doesnt want. Independence is about exposure. BYU could retain its ESPN contract, operate its own network, and play quality football schools in November, as well as have BCS bowl access. All of that will bring exposure. What do you gain from Independence against that scenario? You can still get great OOC games with the ESPN tie in.

  • Alpine Coug Alpine, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 12:36 a.m.

    Dick, thanks for your humorous response to T-Boone. Pretty certain that he met no ill respect to either Notre Dame or BYU. Just speaking his mind and we have to assume that he has earned that right. Interesting that he chose to diss two programs that have far outperformed his Cowboys over the years.

    The more I read about the movement towards four superconferences, the more I believe that Independence for the long-term may be in BYU's best interests.

  • Cougar Cindy Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    Ha! Thanks for this, Dick. Fun times, remembering all the good that has come from and to and through Provo. And you didn't mention Timpanogos and Nebo and all the other beautiful peaks, or the sunset over the lake . . . I'll never quit loving the place where I learned to be so happy--and not just about football, though that's a biggie. Here's to Provo, from a loving Salt Laker.

    GO COUGARS! You made us proud last Saturday!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 5, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    LOL! Funny article, Dick! Nice job defending Provo and our beloved Cougs!

    We ought to put our brains together and think up some gift we could give 'ol T. Boone.....

    A thousand pounds of green jello?

    Five thousand name tags from RMs throughout Happy Valley?

    A framed photograph of our National Champion trophy?

    Or maybe a photograph of LaVell being inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame with our six All-American QBs after his 257 wins?

    Better yet, how about send 'ol T. Boone an invitation to play our Cougars in this tiny town he's never heard of and let's see if he has the courage to accept.

    Go Cougars!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2011 10:50 p.m.

    @ CoachWinWA,

    No way Boise State gets in a BCS conference. All they have is football, but no population. Nothing gained but lots of unnecessary travel.

    The only reason TCU got the Big East invite was to keep them from losing their BCS status (they get TCU's recent win records), and because it's a large Texas market area.

    Air Force would only be considered along with BYU. Just getting some part of Colorado back isn't enough for AFA to get invited by itself.

    If Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State go the the Pac, then the other BCS schools in the Big XII will simply work their way into the other 16-team superconferences that the Pac going to 16 will cause to happen.

    Remember, four 16-team superconferences is 64 teams, and there are 68 BCS teams. So, some could get demoted (probably from the Big Least, and maybe TCU), but the Big XII won't be around to suck up mid-majors. It'd be the other way around, BCS leftovers getting dropped into mid-major conferences.

    I'm liking BYU's indepence so far. No need to knee-jerk yet.

  • Biddies PROVO, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    Dick, great article! I always enjoy reading yours above others because of the quality of content and writing. I also enjoy that you do your research on what you report or write.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    How did Pickens get so rich and be so dumb? TCU? Ha!

    The Texas schools wouldn't put up with another Texas school in their conference. Just another one to draw talent from that state. Nope, they'd not allow that.

    Besides, if the Big XII is to expand, it needs to do so from other states (and other already established BCS schools), and not from its own state or by elevating also-ran mid-majors (SMU, Houston, etc.).

    BTW, this article focused too much on feeling slighted when Pickens was simply joking to make a point. He's not THAT dumb. Maybe Dick was just on a research binge.

    This article should have focused more on possible Texas A&M replacements, and what different schools' officials would prefer. Pickens (not a "real" official) gave his vote (TCU--ha!).

    Sept. 5, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    Talk about an inferiority complex! Chill out Harmon. Don't take it so personal. I'll admit that Provo is a more beautiful setting than the flat lands of Stillwater, but read between the lines dude. Lets face it. The Big 12 is probably on its way to oblivion. The Big Least too. After the PAC 12/16 scoops the best cream off the top and takes UT, TT, OU, and OSU, then the Big 10, ACC, and SEC will take whatever scraps are left along with the Big Least football teams that are worth anything. We all know BYU isn't going to the PAC 16. Most likely they will not get an invite to the other three power conferences that are left either. This leaves them at the kiddie table with the likes of Boise State, Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico, Mew Mexico State, Wyoming, UNLV, San Jose State, etc. They will count themselves lucky to get 2 for 1's from any of the big boys of the power conferences. They might be able to get a home and home against Vanderbilt, Illinois or Duke. Could get depressing in a hurry for Cougar fans.

  • CoachWinWA POULSBO, WA
    Sept. 5, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    I don't care what Pickens thinks or says. But I do have a thought about what BYU should do. Here is a great scenario....

    The BIG 12 is about to get very small, and will need to get back to BIG. It is an AQ conference that allows your own network on the side. BYU needs to get in quick, and help reshape the conference. They can keep the Olympic sports in the WCC.
    Unfortunately, Craig Thompson from the MTn West is not going to be too pleased, because Boise State and Air Force may be invited to that AQ conference called the BIG 12.

    What a turn of events that would be a year removed from the drama of BYU moving to the WCC and going indy. A year later, BYU is a leader in the BIG 12, with AQ status, inviting the best MTN West and Conf USA teams to join them on the BCS stage.

    All that makes worrying about what Pickens thinks irrelevant.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    My only question is...who in the heck is T. Boone Pickens?


    Go Cougars!

  • DucatiCR Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    Yawn. Come on Dick. Instead of crying about people burning BYU, maybe you should write about BYU and only winning their game because of the ineptitude of Ole Miss in the last 5 minutes of the game.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 9:19 p.m.

    Great article Dick. If T-Bone or T. Boone or whatever doesn't know where Provo is, he's about the only one in the country who doesn't. I'm gonna guess he's heard of Danny Ainge and Jim McMahon and Steve Young along with those that were mentioned in the article. Besides, who cares what anyone from OSU thinks? Everyone knows they will ride OU's coattails wherever they go.

  • Dick Harmon
    Sept. 5, 2011 9:09 p.m.

    Bluto, actually, Philo Farnsworth died in Holladay, Utah but is indeed buried in the Provo City Cemetery as reported.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Sept. 5, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    From a football perspective, I would agree that TCU is the most logical replacement for Texas A&M.

    I understand what he means about Notre Dame being "damaged goods" becuase it has been a very long time since they finished in the top 15 or 20 let alone the top 10.

    BYU would be a logical option for the Big 12 but if they were garrenteed some fair access to bowl games based on rankings etc I think BYU ad would prefer to stay independant for a few years just to see how it goes.

    I agree with you though, Boones comment was a little funny.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 8:46 p.m.

    A few corrections for Mr. Harmon. The 17 National Awards for BYU players include 4 Davey O'Brien's not 6. And Philo Farnsworth is buried in the Holladay Utah Cemetery, but the Great Philo Farnsworth is indeed a BYU Alumnus.

    I guess we should cut the 83 year old Boone some slack, time is short. And like Utah fans, he too knows what it's like to live in the shadow of a Program with a National Legacy and Brand.

    Okie St. will always be 2nd fiddle to Oklahoma, just as Utah will always be 2nd fiddle to BYU.

    When Utah or Okie St. can show 9 Top 25 programs, a National Championship, 23 Conference Championships, Outlands, Heisman, Baugh, Doak Walkers, Super Bowl and NFL MVP's then maybe...oh forget it.

    I'll take Rock Canyon and the Wasatch in 4 glorious seasons with her nearly 12k foot peaks to the Prairie anyday.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 8:37 p.m.

    Pickens is still regretting his call of $200 oil the week it reversed hard. The real question is where is Stillwater?

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    Honestly, KamUte, why are you reading an article you know you will not like, because Dick reports for BYU. Don't waste your time and effort!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 8:29 p.m.

    Dick, funniest article I have seen in a long time. Good job - I LOL all the was through while reading the article. One thing, though, you NEED to send a copy to T Boon! Imperative that you do so!

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 5, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    Honestly Dick. Don't waste your ink.